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      09-04-2019, 06:35 AM   #1
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Performance Exhaust for X5 45e?

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I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to put another models performance exhaust line under X5 45e. So if X5 40i or X5 (M)50i performance exhaust would fit under X5 45e and if it would change anything in terms of CO2 output?

I didn’t see any exhaust line being made availability by BMW for X5 45e - Hybrid needs to be pretty silent or other reasons? Dunno.

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      09-04-2019, 11:38 AM   #3
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If you are thinking of putting a performance exhaust on a Hybrid, you're buying the wrong model.
sorry I don’t get your thinking ... hybrid / electric will be for short distances and for combo with the petrol engine which is the same as 40i (3.0 V6) so why would it not be ok to say the car has performance? 400hp combined. You can hardly say the car is slow and sound would be nice still

On a 4 series (or 3 series) with 2.0L engine you can get performance exhausts as well
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a Perf exhaust doesn't belong on a hybrid, but if you go that route good for you? Hard to say if it'll fit due to battery placement.
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a Perf exhaust doesn't belong on a hybrid, but if you go that route good for you? Hard to say if it'll fit due to battery placement.
I think it would belong fine on a hybrid with 394 hp and 5.6 s 0-100 time -- only a few tenths slower than the 40i or even M50d.

Also, for me the biggest reason to carry the extra battery and motor is the crazy Finnish CO2-based tax system. Ordering a 45e, I saved just over 50 k€ in tax compared an otherwise identically equipped 40i.
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I think it would belong fine on a hybrid with 394 hp and 5.6 s 0-100 time -- only a few tenths slower than the 40i or even M50d.

Also, for me the biggest reason to carry the extra battery and motor is the crazy Finnish CO2-based tax system. Ordering a 45e, I saved just over 50 k€ in tax compared an otherwise identically equipped 40i.
Similar CO2 based tax system in Belgium, difference is huge in terms of costs and 45 > 40 so why not? 😁
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I think it would belong fine on a hybrid with 394 hp and 5.6 s 0-100 time -- only a few tenths slower than the 40i or even M50d.

Also, for me the biggest reason to carry the extra battery and motor is the crazy Finnish CO2-based tax system. Ordering a 45e, I saved just over 50 k€ in tax compared an otherwise identically equipped 40i.
It's that much of a tax difference? Wow, I'm glad I don't live there!

The better bet would be getting the B58 back up to the proper output as with the 40i but also having the electric assist
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It's that much of a tax difference? Wow, I'm glad I don't live there!

The better bet would be getting the B58 back up to the proper output as with the 40i but also having the electric assist
Yeah, was born here, gotta play by local rules. Taxes are used for example to fund free university education for everyone, so it ain't all bad, having three kids myself.

And a hybrid ain't that bad either, some 350 kg extra weight. I expect most my driving to be fully electric and cheap. Let's see how that goes in reality, especially in the winter.

I fully agree about the B58. I am hoping that the engine is mechanically identical to the one in the 40i so it should be a simple mod to get full output. Then I would be happy. Except that I still don't know when I will be getting the car, most likely early next year.
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It's that much of a tax difference? Wow, I'm glad I don't live there!

The better bet would be getting the B58 back up to the proper output as with the 40i but also having the electric assist
Yeah, was born here, gotta play by local rules. Taxes are used for example to fund free university education for everyone, so it ain't all bad, having three kids myself.

And a hybrid ain't that bad either, some 350 kg extra weight. I expect most my driving to be fully electric and cheap. Let's see how that goes in reality, especially in the winter.

I fully agree about the B58. I am hoping that the engine is mechanically identical to the one in the 40i so it should be a simple mod to get full output. Then I would be happy. Except that I still don't know when I will be getting the car, most likely early next year.
the tax difference for your car is the cost of most 4 year degrees in the US at non-private universities.

hopefully that's the case, I'm sure people will tune them either way considering the B58 already has some good flash tunes out
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hopefully that's the case, I'm sure people will tune them either way considering the B58 already has some good flash tunes out
Some chip-tuners claim they already have a flash for the X5 45e.
I will wait a few months. Other 45e owners can be the guinea pig. :-)

https://www.heinz-performance.com/en...e+45e+-+394HP/
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Some chip-tuners claim they already have a flash for the X5 45e.
I will wait a few months. Other 45e owners can be the guinea pig. :-)

https://www.heinz-performance.com/en...e+45e+-+394HP/
BR Performance also. They also chip the 745e, same specs as the X5 45e.
+56 PK and + 100NM going to 700NM

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If you are thinking of putting a performance exhaust on a Hybrid, you're buying the wrong model.
Kind of disappointed that this type of useless answer gets likes.

If you believe this to be true then you can also say a performance exhaust doesn't belong on a SUV. So it doesn't belong on X5, period.

It's not a race car that is low to the ground and it doesn't have the same handling and never will imho compared to likes of M2/M3/M4.
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The BMW dealership told me that many 45e customers ask after the sport exhaust option. Too bad that option is not available. That option would make AVAS obsolete and the car much safer for pedestrians
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The BMW dealership told me that many 45e customers ask after the sport exhaust option. Too bad that option is not available. That option would make AVAS obsolete and the car much safer for pedestrians
AVAS only kicks in on electric mode on low speeds right?
Could be totally independent of exhaust. I do believe a sport exhaust would make sense hence the many inquiries at dealerships
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Why not...

...have read the comments above on why one should fit a performance exhaust on a hybrid...my question is why not?

I would love to see the faces when the petrol engines "kick in" with a great sound.

Expecting delivery of my 45e mid October.
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...have read the comments above on why one should fit a performance exhaust on a hybrid...my question is why not?

I would love to see the faces when the petrol engines "kick in" with a great sound.

Expecting delivery of my 45e mid October.
Porsche cayenne offers it on the hybrid model, they could have done it on the 45e, especially because it is a 6 cilinder model now
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...have read the comments above on why one should fit a performance exhaust on a hybrid...my question is why not?

I would love to see the faces when the petrol engines "kick in" with a great sound.

Expecting delivery of my 45e mid October.
Same for me in terms of delivery
I mailed a tuning shop for exhaust replacement, I’ll let you know what they say
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Same for me in terms of delivery
I mailed a tuning shop for exhaust replacement, I’ll let you know what they say
I'm following this I'm only wondering if I could risk it to replace the exhaust because I rent/lease the car.

I guess all of you are renting/leasing the 45e?
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I'm following this I'm only wondering if I could risk it to replace the exhaust because I rent/lease the car.

I guess all of you are renting/leasing the 45e?
I only do financial lease, never had issues with adjustments. I put them in the lease in terms of car value and in my insurance and I make sure everything is street legal. I also buy and sell the car in the end instead of giving it back.
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I only do financial lease, never had issues with adjustments. I put them in the lease in terms of car value and in my insurance and I make sure everything is street legal. I also buy and sell the car in the end instead of giving it back.
So you put for example a third party exhaust in the lease terms?


Hoping an outdated plugin hybrid is still worth some money in 4-5 years and more money than the residual value of the contract

I really don't know if there is any demand for older plugin hybrids. People with a 40e are now screwed if they want to sell it. In 4-5 years the technology is again better, maybe other fiscal laws and the 45e is not interesting anymore. I think a car with only a petrol or diesel engine will keep its value much better. I personally wouldn't take the risk to buy a secondhand (plugin)hybrid with a +5years old batterypack.
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I only do financial lease, never had issues with adjustments. I put them in the lease in terms of car value and in my insurance and I make sure everything is street legal. I also buy and sell the car in the end instead of giving it back.
Same here. On my current 330d GT I have the PPK installed. Notified the insurance (Baloise), they adjusted the policy without any problems , didn't even have to pay extra. My BMW dealership takes it into account when performing maintenance.

I will also buy and sell the car myself when my X5 45e is delivered.
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I have the performance exhaust on the 40i and it is not worth it. Well, at least it does not have any pops, bangs etc.

I do agree with your sentiment - I have a Panamera e-Hybrid that with a sports exhaust - it goes from zero emission stealth cruiser around town and then throaty beast on the twisties. It's called the best of both worlds!!
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