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      05-24-2019, 06:55 AM   #111
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Hey all new here and I'm looking at the X6. I know this thread is about the X5 for 2020 but is there any info on the 2020 X6?
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      05-24-2019, 08:44 AM   #112
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Depends. 11% MSRP isn't difficult right now. What will the discount be when the new M50I comes out?
I'm sure the discounts will not be as good out of the gate on the M50i but should increase pretty quickly. And even if a deal is a few percent less, just being a 2020 means it is worth more in a few years.

But what I think what alot of guys are forgetting, we were discussing
just recently a big possible price increase for the M50i due to the fantastic upgraded engine. Only 2K more to get 523HP & 553lb torque? And 2nd year refinement? No brainer for me.
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      05-24-2019, 09:48 AM   #113
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I test drove X5 5.0i a couple months ago.
Do they not make this model anymore?
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      05-24-2019, 10:00 AM   #114
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I test drove X5 5.0i a couple months ago.
Do they not make this model anymore?
Actually they never made a 5.0i. The 50i is just for MY2019.
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      05-24-2019, 06:47 PM   #115
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Will there be an X7M?
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      05-25-2019, 01:12 AM   #116
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No.
Are you sure? There is a GLS63. I don't see why they would introduce an X7 competitor and not sell competing price points.
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      05-25-2019, 01:56 AM   #117
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Are you sure? There is a GLS63. I don't see why they would introduce an X7 competitor and not sell competing price points.
Pretty sure I read M Division have come out to say no chance...
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      05-25-2019, 08:28 AM   #118
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Are you sure? There is a GLS63. I don't see why they would introduce an X7 competitor and not sell competing price points.
Pretty sure I read M Division have come out to say no chance...
There's no M7
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      05-25-2019, 08:31 AM   #119
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There's no M7
Hmm that is true, they never bothered to compete with the S63's. Weird that they don't go up against Mercedes AMG S Series. Well except the CLS = M8.

So i guess the X7 top end would be some X7 M50D option.
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      05-26-2019, 08:25 AM   #120
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This is all great and all but can it support a solid carplay/bt connection without any bugs some beyond basic shit the g05 has not been able to
car play doesn't matter since apple is in the minority for phone usage globally. Android Auto would be better, even so I'd rather just use idrive 90% of the time. Some CP issues are on Apples end, others fall to BMW
Minority? You sure about that? Are all those android users around the world also driving BMWs?

It's probably by far the most preferred phone for BMW drivers and thats all i am concerned with. Carplay and basic BT connectivity is abysmal clearly a sufficient amount of SIT (Sys Integration Testing) and UAT (User Acceptance Testing) was not performed prior to release.

This is rudimentary basic bare minimum tech in todays cars and it doesn't work. Im sure a good amount of "leverage" was applied to the CRs and other magazines for their outstanding reviews of this car.
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      05-26-2019, 10:24 PM   #121
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Not to rag on Porsches, which I love, but I wonder how anyone would justify spending $40k more for a Cayenne Turbo with similar power and performance. BMW has done something really amazing here to offer a 500+HP SUV with German design/engineering and some degree of real sporting credentials for just north of $80k.
I am comparing the Porsche Cayenne Turbo for purchase and have been wondering the same thing. The Cayenne Turbo is supposed to be somewhat more performant with 3.7 sec 0-60 and slightly better handling, but $40K more when the two are so close?! Also consider that the safety and other tech in the BMW is more advanced than the Porsche. Perhaps a better comparison will be with the upcoming full X5 M. Nonetheless, there will still be a huge premium to pay just for the Porsche brand name.
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      05-26-2019, 11:12 PM   #122
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Has anybody seen pics yet of the new X5 and X7 M50i front ends? The press releases all talk about the new front end body kit with larger and more aggressive openings, but all the pics shown so far of either of the cars are just of the side and rear.
Go to the uk configurator and look at M50d. Will be the same cosmetics.

Plus they have all the new colors to play with.
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I was hoping BMW offers more colors for the 2020 M50i, perhaps Donington Grey. Or is this exclusive to the X5M?
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      05-27-2019, 08:00 AM   #124
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I was hoping BMW offers more colors for the 2020 M50i, perhaps Donington Grey. Or is this exclusive to the X5M?
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      05-27-2019, 08:40 AM   #125
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Go to the uk configurator and look at M50d. Will be the same cosmetics.

Plus they have all the new colors to play with.
Love the 22" 747M wheel design, Hope we get it for 2020.
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Go to the uk configurator and look at M50d. Will be the same cosmetics.

Plus they have all the new colors to play with.
Love the 22" 747M wheel design, Hope we get it for 2020.
747 is really nice. This is my M50d
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Wow that's really nice. I wish we could get away with 22" in NYC but alas our roads are terrible.

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      05-28-2019, 12:06 PM   #128
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Actually they never made a 5.0i. The 50i is just for MY2019.
Just to update, the X5 50i is NOT being discontinued for 2020. Its now been confirmed as part of the 2020 line up.
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      05-28-2019, 12:09 PM   #129
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Just to update, the X5 50i is NOT being discontinued for 2020. Its now been confirmed as part of the 2020 line up.
Yes, I saw that a little bit ago. So much for the model pipeline that was realized earlier this month. They must have decided there is a place for it in the lineup and reconsidered offering it.
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Yes, I saw that a little bit ago. So much for the model pipeline that was realized earlier this month. They must have decided there is a place for it in the lineup and reconsidered offering it.
They just made several improvements to the V8TT for the new 2019 X5 50i. They would have not gone through the effort if they were going to kill it in one year.

I think the 2020 line up just gave the customer a lot more options for a powerful SUV with multiple ride options and trim levels. Its a win all around.
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• New M Performance variants of BMW X5 and X7 SAV's.
• 523 hp and 553 lb-ft of torque and M GmbH model specific tuning.
• 0 to 60 mph in 4.1 seconds for X5 M50i and 4.5 seconds for X7 M50i.
• Pricing: $82,150 for X5 M50i and $99,600 for X7 M50i. Plus $995 Destination.
• Production to begin August 2019.

Woodcliff Lake, NJ – May 21, 2019...Today, BMW introduces two new M Performance models, the BMW X5 M50i and BMW X7 M50i, which join the X5 and X7 lineups this fall when production begins in BMW Plant Spartanburg, SC.

Both models feature the new top version of the N63 4.4L TwinPower Turbo V8 engine backed by an eight-speed sport automatic transmission, BMW's xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive , M Sport differential, M Sport exhaust system and model-specific M GmbH suspension tuning.
Offering true sports car performance, both BMW Sports Activity Vehicles offer excellent handling and traction across varied surfaces and weather conditions complemented by luxurious interior appointments and the same towing capabilities as their non-M Performance siblings.

Power and performance

The latest generation of the 4.4-liter eight-cylinder engine features numerous detailed improvements. Two twin-scroll turbochargers with charge air cooling located within the V- shaped space between the cylinder banks, High Precision Injection, VALVETRONIC fully variable valve control and Double-VANOS variable camshaft timing all form part of the
M Performance TwinPower Turbo technology package which delivers 523 hp between 5,500 and 6,000 rpm and 553 lb-ft of torque between 1,800 – 4,600 rpm. - an increase of 67 hp and 74 lb-ft of torque over the X5 xDrive50i and X7 xDrive50i models.

A new aluminium alloy has been used to increase the strength of the engine block. The wire- arc sprayed iron coating for the cylinder walls serves to reduce frictional losses. Reinforced, Grafal-coated pistons and optimized piston rings are designed to endure the stress on the crank drive that comes with the extra output and torque. To enhance engine smoothness, torsional vibration is minimized with the help of a viscous damper on the crankshaft.

The BMW X5 M50i accelerates from a standstill to 60 mph in just 4.1 seconds with the larger X7 M50i right behind at 4.5 seconds. Both vehicles feature electronically limited top speeds of 130 mph when equipped with all-season tires and 155 mph when equipped with summer performance tires.

Eight-speed Sport Automatic transmission

The eight-speed Sport Steptronic transmission's new control electronics help to increase the powertrain's overall performance and efficiency. Intelligent connectivity enables the Sport automatic transmission to adapt its shift strategy according to the route and driving situation by working with the navigation system and if equipped, combining this data with information from the Active Cruise Control system's radar sensor. This makes it possible for the transmission to shift proactively instead of reactively insuring that the vehicle is always in the correct gear for the upcoming road conditions.

Shift paddles on the steering wheel allow for quick manual gear selection, while a Launch Control function allows for accelerating from a standing start with maximum available traction.

xDrive all-wheel drive with M Sport rear differential.

BMW's rear-biased xDrive intelligent all-wheel-drive system, found in the X5 M50i and X7 M50i, is able to split drive-torque between the front and rear wheels with great speed and precision. Full power can be directed automatically by the system to the rear wheels in situations where all-wheel drive traction is not required.

The standard electronically controlled rear M Sport differential helps support dynamic driving by optimizing the transfer of power to the road in all driving situations. Managed by the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system, the locking function for the rear differential improves traction and power delivery when driving over road surfaces with differing levels of grip for the left-rear and right-rear wheels by reducing wheel spin when a specific tire is struggling for traction.

Chassis and Suspension

The BMW X5 M50i and X7 M50i models feature a double-wishbone front and five-link rear suspension that has been painstakingly gone over by M GmbH. This setup provides the best balance of exceptional traction on rough terrain and excellent dynamic response and ride comfort on pavement. The bushings, spring and damper settings have all been tuned to complement the new models' increased power and performance.
The BMW X5 M50i is equipped with the Adaptive M Suspension while the BMW X7 M50i is equipped with a two-axle air suspension system (optional on the X5 M50i) which allows for a 0.8 inch lowering of ride height when in Sport mode or when speeds exceed 85 mph. The driver may also increase vehicle ride height of air suspension equipped vehicles by 1.6" for greater ground clearance when required.

Wheels, Tires and Brakes

Both models are equipped with large M Sport Brakes featuring two-piece, lightweight compound brake disks with blue painted calipers and M logos.
The BMW X5 M50i is equipped with standard 20 inch M Star-spoke, bi-color, light alloy wheels shod with 275/45R20 all-season run-flat tires. Optional wheel and tire packages include 21 inch wheels with 275/40R21 front and 315/35R21 performance run-flat tires and 22 inch wheels with 275/35R22 front and 315/30R22 rear performance non run-flat tires.
The BMW X7 M50i comes equipped with standard 22 inch cerium grey M V-spoke light alloy wheels with 275/40R22 front and 315/35R22 performance run-flat tires. Options include bi- color orbit grey or black 22 inch wheels and 21 inch wheels mounted with 285/45R21 all- season run-flat tires.

M Performance design and features

The new BMW X5 M50i and X7 M50i models feature front bumpers with larger openings to allow for greater air flow to the cooling system. The rocker panels and rear bumpers have been sculptured to set the models apart from the rest of the line. BMW Individual high-gloss Shadowline trim and Cerium Grey highlight selected individual exterior components.
Interior features include; door sill plates feature an illuminated "M50i" logo, M leather steering wheel, gear selector with M logo, Vernasca perforated leather upholstery with contrast stitching, Anthracite headliner in the X5 M50i and Alcantara Anthracite headliner in the X7 M50i.

Standard and optional equipment

Standard equipment includes:
• 20 inch wheels with all-season run-flat tires on the X5 M50i
• 22 inch wheels with performance run-flat tires on the X7 M50i
• M Sport Brakes
• M Sport Differential
• Adaptive M Suspension
• Two-axle air suspension on the X7 M50i
• Adaptive Full LED lights with Automatic high beams on the X5 M50i
• Icon Adaptive LED with Laserlight on the X7 M50i (optional on X5 M50i)
• Active Driving Assistant including Active Blind Spot Detection and Lane Departure Warning
• Multi-contour sport seats
• Harman Kardon Surround sound system
• Live Cockpit Professional with iDrive 7 Operating system
Apple Car-Play Compatibility
• WiFi hotspot
• Wireless charging

Selected optional equipment includes:

• Remote Engine Start
• Glass Controls
• Two-axle air suspension on the X5 M50i
• Trailer hitch (7,200 lb rating X5 M50i and 7,500 lb rating X7 M50i)
• Bowers & Wilkins Diamond Surround Audio System
• Dynamic Handling Package – Integral Active steering and Adaptive M suspension professional with Active Roll Stabilization.
• Driving Assistance Professional - Extended Traffic Jam Assistance for limited access highways, Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go, Active Lane Keeping Assistant with side collision avoidance, Automatic Lane Change, Evasion Assistant and front cross traffic alert.
• Parking Assistance Plus Package – Parking Assistant, Back-Up Assistant, Active Park Distance Control and Surround View with 3D View

BMW Live Cockpit Professional: Seventh generation of BMW iDrive
The BMW Live Cockpit Professional combines a new display and control concept and the ultimate in connectivity to create a superb all-round package. The latest-generation of the iDrive comprises a high-resolution digital 12.3" instrument cluster display behind the steering wheel and a 12.3" center display diagonally across. The system offers many hardware upgrades including new haptic controls on the iDrive controller, an advanced tablet-like touch interface, stunning visualizations, and the largest displays available in a BMW. The multi-modal approach of the iDrive touch controller, large touchscreen center display, cloud based voice control, and gesture control allow users to interact in the way of their choosing.

The seventh incarnation of iDrive has a cutting-edge, fully-digital design and is geared more closely to the driver's needs by allowing them to tailor the system to their own preferences with customizable widgets of information. This new level of personalization is then stored in the BMW cloud and can follow the customer to other BMW vehicles. Information from categories such as driving, entertainment, navigation, connectivity, and from the vehicle info itself, can be selected in nearly any combination in any of four layouts on the Center Display. Multiple pages can be created and easily accessed with a simple swipe across the screen with a finger.

Other elements of the BMW Live Cockpit Professional are the Navigation Professional system, a hard-drive-based multimedia system with 32 GB of memory and six USB ports, plus Bluetooth interfaces. The driver can be automatically detected and personal settings activated either using the traditional vehicle key or by downloading the driver's personal settings from the BMW Cloud.

A collection of bundled digital services will be offered as the Connected Package Professional. The Connected Package Professional provides Remote Services, Concierge Services, On- Street Parking Information, and Real Time Traffic Information for the first 4 years of ownership. This package allows easy integration and adaptation of new technology over time. Customers can continue to download various new digital services individually as they become available or renew existing services via the ConnectedDrive Store.
Isn't the N63 V8 motor is what is always in the shop?
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Wow that's really nice. I wish we could get away with 22" in NYC but alas our roads are terrible.

Hoping BMW also brings anthracite alcantara headliner and sky lounge package to US!
I wouldn't even do 20's in Iowa. Pot holes here are a DISASTROUS mess.
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