No Auto Start/Stop Button?

NightCrawler_ · 01-01-2021, 01:27 AM

I truly dislike the start/stop feature. I agree it is much smoother. But I find it obtrusive and obnoxious when I stop at a stop sign for 5 seconds and the car shuts off. It doesn’t just effect the motor. It also slows down the HVAC system. I have done what I feel will be the only workaround currently available that I’m happy with. As mentioned I set my Sport Individual to all comfort settings. I then used BimmerCode to set the car to start in Sport Individual. I previously had tried the “last mode” BimmerCode setting and found it did nothing. This works well and I now can completely avoid the ASS system without having to remember to change the mode of the car.

TurtleBoy · 01-01-2021, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

I also emailed BimmerCode support for suggestions. I'll post their reply once I get it. Ideally we'd have an option to persistently disable Auto Start Stop like in some older models. Fingers crossed.

That can be done but unfortunately the person/company that figured it out will only code it remotely for obvious reasons.

-Vanguard- · 01-01-2021, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NightCrawler_

I truly dislike the start/stop feature. I agree it is much smoother. But I find it obtrusive and obnoxious when I stop at a stop sign for 5 seconds and the car shuts off. It doesn’t just effect the motor. It also slows down the HVAC system. I have done what I feel will be the only workaround currently available that I’m happy with. As mentioned I set my Sport Individual to all comfort settings. I then used BimmerCode to set the car to start in Sport Individual. I previously had tried the “last mode” BimmerCode setting and found it did nothing. This works well and I now can completely avoid the ASS system without having to remember to change the mode of the car.

The thing turns off before you even stop. If the car thinks you're going to stop, the engine cuts off as you're slowing down.

Its SUPER annoying in NY with constant city street stop-and-go traffic. My car will ASS 100+ times per drive. There is no way this system is designed to handle this much stress.

BMW did not design this system with NY in mind, city traffic here is absurd and should be its own level on the EPA scale- NYC/City/Highway.

DCC · 01-01-2021, 12:40 PM

Is there hope that BMW will return the button in MY2022?

cruzer666 · 01-02-2021, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

I also emailed BimmerCode support for suggestions. I'll post their reply once I get it. Ideally we'd have an option to persistently disable Auto Start Stop like in some older models. Fingers crossed.

That can be done but unfortunately the person/company that figured it out will only code it remotely for obvious reasons.

As expected BimmerCode said there is no way to disable auto start stop on vehicles that do not have the button. At this point I'm ok with the workaround using Sport Individual.

TurtleBoy who's the company that figured it out ?

cruzer666 · 01-02-2021, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DCC

Is there hope that BMW will return the button in MY2022?

If enough people complain and there will be no regulation stopping them from doing so, there's a chance!

biterror · 01-02-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

If enough people complain and there will be no regulation stopping them from doing so, there's a chance!

In Europe, the car manufacturers have to lower the emissions or pay huge fines, so they are using everything including these tricks to reach the unrealistic goals set by the European Union. It won't get any better, it will only get worse.

TurtleBoy · 01-02-2021, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

As expected BimmerCode said there is no way to disable auto start stop on vehicles that do not have the button. At this point I'm ok with the workaround using Sport Individual.

TurtleBoy who's the company that figured it out ?

r33_RGSport has done it.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=27

X5 45e · 01-02-2021, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by biterror

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

If enough people complain and there will be no regulation stopping them from doing so, there's a chance!

In Europe, the car manufacturers have to lower the emissions or pay huge fines, so they are using everything including these tricks to reach the unrealistic goals set by the European Union. It won't get any better, it will only get worse.

Nice thing: there is always a back door.

Companies can combine their CO2 emissions.

Mercedes has bought part of the O CO2 emission of the Tesla fleet to neutralize their high emission. Rumours say that a substantial part the profit Tesla made as a company is generated by this deal.

cruzer666 · 01-04-2021, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

r33_RGSport has done it.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4&postcount=27

Thanks! I'll go get it taken care of.

cruzer666 · 01-05-2021, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

Thanks! I'll go get it taken care of.

I got it done on my X6 2021, without the ASS button, thanks r33_RGSport

No more Auto Start Stop.

TurtleBoy · 01-05-2021, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

I got it done on my X6 2021, without the ASS button, thanks r33_RGSport

No more Auto Start Stop.

Excellent, glad it worked out. Something tells me r33_RGSport will be busy in the future.

parkstr8 · 01-05-2021, 02:29 PM

I'm calling Ben soon to do mine...

r33_RGSport · 01-05-2021, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cruzer666

I got it done on my X6 2021, without the ASS button, thanks r33_RGSport

No more Auto Start Stop.

Thank you for the visit.

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Excellent, glad it worked out. Something tells me r33_RGSport will be busy in the future.

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Originally Posted by parkstr8

I'm calling Ben soon to do mine...

Whenever you are ready.

DCC · 01-05-2021, 08:10 PM

Is it "no more" start stop or there is the option to turn it on vs off?

Looking at 2021 X5 40i

cruzer666 · 01-05-2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DCC

Is it "no more" start stop or there is the option to turn it on vs off?

Looking at 2021 X5 40i

No more auto start stop period. It's off completely for all driving modes (Comfort + Eco Pro). It needs to be coded back in to be re-enabled.

TurtleBoy · 01-05-2021, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DCC

Is it "no more" start stop or there is the option to turn it on vs off?

Looking at 2021 X5 40i

The button to turn off the ASS has been removed. In order to not have it Auto Stop and Start you either need to use a Sport mode (many seem to set Sport Individual to all Comfort options) or do the coding by r33_RGSport that has been mentioned.

r33_RGSport · 01-05-2021, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

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Originally Posted by DCC

Is it "no more" start stop or there is the option to turn it on vs off?

Looking at 2021 X5 40i

The button to turn off the ASS has been removed. In order to not have it Auto Stop and Start you either need to use a Sport mode (many seem to set Sport Individual to all Comfort options) or do the coding by r33_RGSport that has been mentioned.

Or, I think you can retrofit the button assembly and have the button again.

Armyn21 · 01-07-2021, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Or, I think you can retrofit the button assembly and have the button again.

Pm me im interested!! this A-SS is annoying! thanks!

r33_RGSport · 01-07-2021, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Armyn21

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Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Or, I think you can retrofit the button assembly and have the button again.

Pm me im interested!! this A-SS is annoying! thanks!

Need to get a finer ASS.

Replied to your PM and DM.

rmorin1249 · 01-09-2021, 04:47 PM

I bought a new adapter and tried to code auto start stop on my 2019 to remember the last setting. I had successfully coded this before but with the latest OTA software update it was reverted back to always on at start up. However when I tried to code it again it says it cannot be coded. Did BMW do something to force turning it off every time the vehicle is started?

cruzer666 · 01-10-2021, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rmorin1249

I bought a new adapter and tried to code auto start stop on my 2019 to remember the last setting. I had successfully coded this before but with the latest OTA software update it was reverted back to always on at start up. However when I tried to code it again it says it cannot be coded. Did BMW do something to force turning it off every time the vehicle is started?

On both my 2020 (G20) and 2021 (G06) the ASS remember last setting is still available (with BimmerCode App).

All the coding I do gets reverted back to default after every OTA upgrade. After the upgrade I was always able to code it back without errors.

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