[Bhuvi]

Early days but i just drove my 50e from the dealer to my house ~75 miles on hybrid mode with navigation. Reached home with 7% electric charge and 397 miles on fuel (max range was 400 miles). Maybe full charge is >40 mile pure electric range. Will keep updating as I drive more. Right now car is at the detailer for ceramics.

[rabbit1986]

Thank you for this very useful info !

[bbari]

[QUOTE=Bhuvi;30063664]Early days but i just drove my 50e from the dealer to my house ~75 miles on hybrid mode with navigation. Reached home with 7% electric charge and 397 miles on fuel (max range was 400 miles). Maybe full charge is >40 mile pure electric range. Will keep updating as I drive more. Right now car is at the detailer for ceramics.

Does this mean you drove 72 miles using 93% of battery?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by bbari

Does this mean you drove 72 miles using 93% of battery?

No it doesn't. The fuel range does not predict what you will get but rather what you should get if you drive exactly like you have been for the last 20 miles or so. In this case the vehicle was new so the max range was based on the time the vehicle was run at the factory, for loading, at the dealer etc. Looking at the numbers provided I don't think any conclusions can be drawn for a number of reasons.

[Flying Ace]

Nice. Sounds about right as new estimate was around 40 miles on EV

[Bakdraft21]

love the 40 mile range,I know zero about these 50e cars and alike, after the battery runs out of juice are you back down to the 375 hp???

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Bakdraft21

love the 40 mile range,I know zero about these 50e cars and alike, after the battery runs out of juice are you back down to the 375 hp???

Under normal circumstance the battery never runs out completely, it will always have some charge due to the charging by the engine so some electric assistance will always be available.

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by Bakdraft21

love the 40 mile range,I know zero about these 50e cars and alike, after the battery runs out of juice are you back down to the 375 hp???

No, with subtle differences. There are two 'modes' where you will get EV assistance:
- e-assist is always available
- e-boost, requires some non-zero range value

Now, say you're going up a long mountain grade and you run the battery down...at that point, you're running on the ICE and e-boost won't be available, but e-assist for a momentary assist will likely still be there, just not for long. But, e-boost is also limited in duration as the heat buildup would otherwise be an issue.

There's a huge amount of learning to understand and take full advantage of the vehicle...there's a reason why the manual is over 400-pages long. The onboard videos can help as well.

[SwissBeemer]

Is that the case though? There's been an extensive debate going on over here where the consensus seems to be that you will almost always have power from the electric motor leading to the same acceleration times, even with 0% battery, as also evidenced by this video.

70% vs. 0%
0-87mph: Same
0-124mph: 0.5s slower
0-145mph: 2.9s slower

[Zion5]

Hopefully it’ll get alittle over 40 miles on good days

[Di3s3l_Power]

from my experience e-boost is available with --- (0) EV miles range.

there will always be e-boost available for quick brief acceleration unless you are racing on track with long acceleration periods, but there is regen

[rexus300]

What was your combined mpg?

[jpw172]

Did my first full charge and it’s saying 45 miles of pure electric range available.

Will report back on combined…

[velopod]

Originally Posted by jpw172

Did my first full charge and it’s saying 45 miles of pure electric range available.

Will report back on combined…

I've never had less than 45 miles of range. Usually 47 miles but have 50 mile range showing after full charge a couple of times (note I've never actually gotten 50 miles though, but close).

Once you learn how to use battery hold, charge on long downhills, braking, etc. you won't get any less than 45 (and I mean driving normally or even spirited, not hypermiling).

[jpw172]

Originally Posted by velopod

I've never had less than 45 miles of range. Usually 47 miles but have 50 mile range showing after full charge a couple of times (note I've never actually gotten 50 miles though, but close).

Once you learn how to use battery hold, charge on long downhills, braking, etc. you won't get any less than 45 (and I mean driving normally or even spirited, not hypermiling).

Is there something special to do for charging on long downhills?

[jkramerXXX7]

I average 43 to 47 with the highest being 52.

[Line Drive]

My commute to work is 46 miles roundtrip, and I don't charge at work because the prices are super high. I drive in electric mode, and when I pull into my garage at home, I'm still in electric and it hasn't switched to hybrid. That works for me.

[Georgetheowl]

Originally Posted by Zion5

Hopefully it’ll get alittle over 40 miles on good days

My 45e will get 45miles on a good day

[Bmwx5z]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

No it doesn't. The fuel range does not predict what you will get but rather what you should get if you drive exactly like you have been for the last 20 miles or so. In this case the vehicle was new so the max range was based on the time the vehicle was run at the factory, for loading, at the dealer etc. Looking at the numbers provided I don't think any conclusions can be drawn for a number of reasons.

I have seen a few reviews that claim that the Lexus 450h+ PHEV start to function as traditional hybrid vehicle when the juice runs out, keeping a charge, using regen etc. Is this also the case for the 50e?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by jpw172

Is there something special to do for charging on long downhills?

no. cruising (no accelerator pedal input) or applying the brakes will charge the battery

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by Bmwx5z

I have seen a few reviews that claim that the Lexus 450h+ PHEV start to function as traditional hybrid vehicle when the juice runs out, keeping a charge, using regen etc. Is this also the case for the 50e?

yes

[velopod]

Originally Posted by jpw172

Is there something special to do for charging on long downhills?

In normal (Hybrid) mode no - just drive. It will do so automatically.

But say you are taking a 200 mile trip. No way to cover that all electric. You want to arrive with some battery to drive electric at your destination (lots of reasons). Put on battery hold on the highway part (where ICE is more efficient anyway). Any long downhill stretches, turn battery hold off (just push the button), after downhill, turn back on and keep driving. Will add some miles on your trip.