[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by StrykerRan

Being this will be my first experience with Run Flats.. what happens if I get a nail (large enough, but not tire tearing) or some small puncture that is detected by the TPMS and I presume we can run another 50 miles, give or take--- and I park the car at night after using only running 5 miles on the nailed-tire. Does this mean the next morning the car is still good to go for another 45 miles? Or would I find a dead tire by next morning ?

As long as the sidewall is not compromised you should be able to get 50 miles after a puncture even with no air pressure left in the tire.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by StrykerRan

Being this will be my first experience with Run Flats.. what happens if I get a nail (large enough, but not tire tearing) or some small puncture that is detected by the TPMS and I presume we can run another 50 miles, give or take--- and I park the car at night after using only running 5 miles on the nailed-tire. Does this mean the next morning the car is still good to go for another 45 miles? Or would I find a dead tire by next morning ?

There is the marketing and then there is at least the occasional reality. The answer to your question as to what will happen I think has to be: no one knows.

See my recent experience notes earlier in this thread and a few posts later: https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24987192 and thread I had started on the same experience: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1626566

Now you know why I wanted your spare tire. And that wheel in my avatar, that's not a tribute, that's a memorial. :-)

[StrykerRan]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

There is the marketing and then there is at least the occasional reality. The answer to your question as to what will happen I think has to be: no one knows.

See my recent experience notes earlier in this thread and a few posts later: https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24987192 and thread I had started on the same experience: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1626566

Now you know why I wanted your spare tire. And that wheel in my avatar, that's not a tribute, that's a memorial. :-)

Just finished reading the thread... sorry to see you had that experience. Glad you were ok though. Did Pierelli refund any money?
I bought my car, supposedly at a good price, through a broker. One of those auto shop that sells all kinds of cars. I'll reach out and see if I can add that $150 option and pay for it with cash.....

[StrykerRan]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

As long as the sidewall is not compromised you should be able to get 50 miles after a puncture even with no air pressure left in the tire.

Anyone recommend any little kit I should prepare myself with (other than a spare)? I am reading and hearing so much conflicting accounts on whether silicone spray or plugs would work or not.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by StrykerRan

Just finished reading the thread... sorry to see you had that experience. Glad you were ok though. Did Pierelli refund any money?
I bought my car, supposedly at a good price, through a broker. One of those auto shop that sells all kinds of cars. I'll reach out and see if I can add that $150 option and pay for it with cash.....

Pirelli has received the tire and, apparently due to backlog, will be examining it in early August and respond then with comments. That's 6 weeks from puncture to promise to examine, for those counting. Still, if they do end up covering the ludicrous cost, it will be worth it.

A theory: If I was inclined to give any benefit of the doubt to the 100km runtime on RFTs after pressure loss marketing claim, I would observe that in my case, a) initially I drove around 5-6km on the RFT after report by TPMS, then b) parked the car for around 6 hours, then c) attempted to drive to dealer for the service appointment and gave up around 2-3km later. So the 6 hours of parking may have contributed to the highly underwhelming range relative to marketing claims.

I asked the dealer service person if I should bring the car in right away or if the 6h of parking would be ok — I was assured the parking would be fine. And while the marketing claims a distance range, I don't recall ever hearing of a time-range. Yet there is no magic here: even parked with nominal load, that sidewall is under 5000lbs (or its proportional equivalent, so actually around 1250lbs for this 50/50 weight ratio car) for the entire 6 hours — perhaps time under pressure matters as well as the travel range to the sidewall stability.

[StrykerRan]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

Pirelli has received the tire and, apparently due to backlog, will be examining it in early August and respond then with comments. That's 6 weeks from puncture to promise to examine, for those counting. Still, if they do end up covering the ludicrous cost, it will be worth it.

A theory: If I was inclined to give any benefit of the doubt to the 100km runtime on RFTs after pressure loss marketing claim, I would observe that in my case, a) initially I drove around 5-6km on the RFT after report by TPMS, then b) parked the car for around 6 hours, then c) attempted to drive to dealer for the service appointment and gave up around 2-3km later. So the 6 hours of parking may have contributed to the highly underwhelming range relative to marketing claims.

I asked the dealer service person if I should bring the car in right away or if the 6h of parking would be ok — I was assured the parking would be fine. And while the marketing claims a distance range, I don't recall ever hearing of a time-range. Yet there is no magic here: even parked with nominal load, that sidewall is under 5000lbs (or its proportional equivalent, so actually around 1250lbs for this 50/50 weight ratio car) for the entire 6 hours — perhaps time under pressure matters as well as the travel range to the sidewalk stability.

Alas... I hope I don't have to find out in my 3 year lease... or not find out too often. I do have an air compressor so if I find myself so unfortunate, perhaps, I'll pump a little air before driving just to make myself feel safer. So what have you been keeping as a backup?

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by StrykerRan

So what have you been keeping as a backup?

Well, RFTs have turned me into a gambler and a beggar.

I am forced to gamble that I won't get another flat. The lack of ability to purchase a spare that would fit the M Sport brake calliper in Canada (and only in Canada, as it seems to fit everywhere else on the planet) has forced me to beg ... won't you spare a ... uhm ... spare tire?

[StrykerRan]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

Well, RFTs have turned me into a gambler and a beggar.

I am forced to gamble that I won't get another flat. The lack of ability to purchase a spare that would fit the M Sport brake calliper in Canada (and only in Canada, as it seems to fit everywhere else on the planet) has forced me to beg ... won't you spare a ... uhm ... spare tire?

Well, I wish you luck. And when I make my annual trek to Toronto, I'll be sure to let you know of my arrival so I can be your spare saver for those few days.

[LexxM3]

I don't know which of the many threads about spares and tires to update, so I'll pick this one and link here in the others.

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I HAVE SUCCEEDED IN SECURING A SPACE SAVER SPARE SETUP IN CANADA!

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You all should obviously aim to be winners like me. Summary below and lots and lots of pics in random order (because Bimmerpost app likes to randomize pics).

With the help of many people online and offline, with special thanks to AndroidRobot for unlocking the key evidence, I now have:

- new 19" Space Saver Spare rim and tire per the same part number as is readily available in US (ordered by dealer when faced with incontrovertible evidence of existence; paid by me)

- the jack kit and mount from F15 X5 (given to me by dealer for free out of raging pity)

- home made jack-kit-to-rim attachment mechanism since Canadian G05 X5 do not have the vehicle attached version of this facility; this works great and eliminates any chance of movement or noises

Everything fits. BMW Canada is full of shit. On to the pics:

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

I don't know which of the many threads about spares and tires to update, so I'll pick this one and link here in the others.

I HAVE SUCCEEDED IN SECURING A SPACE SAVER SETUP IN CANADA!

You should all obviously aim to be winners like me. Story below and lots and lots of pics in random order (because Bimmerpost app likes to randomize pics).

With the help of many people online and offline, with special thanks to AndroidRobot for unlocking the key evidence, I now have:

- new 19" Space Saver Spare rim and tire per the same part number as is readily available in US (ordered by dealer when faced with incontrovertible evidence of existence; paid by me)

- the jack kit and mount from F15 X5 (given to me by dealer for free out of raging pity)

- home made jack-kit-to-rim attachment mechanism since Canadian G05 X5 do not have the vehicle attached version of this facility; this works great and eliminates any chance of movement or noises

Everything fits. BMW Canada is full of shit. On to the pics:

awesome! glad you for th unicorn special spare tire just like the turn signal stalk in all BMW's

[martinf79]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

I don't know which of the many threads about spares and tires to update, so I'll pick this one and link here in the others.

I HAVE SUCCEEDED IN SECURING A SPACE SAVER SPARE SETUP IN CANADA!

You all should obviously aim to be winners like me. Summary below and lots and lots of pics in random order (because Bimmerpost app likes to randomize pics).

With the help of many people online and offline, with special thanks to AndroidRobot for unlocking the key evidence, I now have:

- new 19" Space Saver Spare rim and tire per the same part number as is readily available in US (ordered by dealer when faced with incontrovertible evidence of existence; paid by me)

- the jack kit and mount from F15 X5 (given to me by dealer for free out of raging pity)

- home made jack-kit-to-rim attachment mechanism since Canadian G05 X5 do not have the vehicle attached version of this facility; this works great and eliminates any chance of movement or noises

Everything fits. BMW Canada is full of shit. On to the pics:

How much did the dealer charge you? Which dealer?

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by martinf79

How much did the dealer charge you? Which dealer?

BMW Grand River in Kitchener. A little over $500 CAD taxes in — it's no $150 USD at car order time in US, but it's way less than I was expecting. BMW Grand River are awesome, but I don't know if it would be fair to expect the same price as they are very likely doing me favours.

[martinf79]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

I don't know which of the many threads about spares and tires to update, so I'll pick this one and link here in the others.

I HAVE SUCCEEDED IN SECURING A SPACE SAVER SPARE SETUP IN CANADA!

You all should obviously aim to be winners like me. Summary below and lots and lots of pics in random order (because Bimmerpost app likes to randomize pics).

With the help of many people online and offline, with special thanks to AndroidRobot for unlocking the key evidence, I now have:

- new 19" Space Saver Spare rim and tire per the same part number as is readily available in US (ordered by dealer when faced with incontrovertible evidence of existence; paid by me)

- the jack kit and mount from F15 X5 (given to me by dealer for free out of raging pity)

- home made jack-kit-to-rim attachment mechanism since Canadian G05 X5 do not have the vehicle attached version of this facility; this works great and eliminates any chance of movement or noises

Everything fits. BMW Canada is full of shit. On to the pics:

BTW ... what organizer is this?

[martinf79]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

BMW Grand River in Kitchener. A little over $500 CAD taxes in — it's no $150 USD at car order time in US, but it's way less than I was expecting. BMW Grand River are awesome, but I don't know if it would be fair to expect the same price as they are very likely doing me favours.

I will see if my dealer can order it. What is the part number?

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by martinf79

BTW ... what organizer is this?

Car Trunk Organizer by... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07RQK1J95 — it's great, lots of storage and fits in G05 X5 perfectly without wasted space both along rear seats and along either side depth-wise.

[martinf79]

Originally Posted by LexxM3

Car Trunk Organizer by... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07RQK1J95 — it's great, lots of storage and fits in G05 X5 perfectly without wasted space both along rear seats and along either side depth-wise.

Awesome .. thanks for the info.. really appreciate it.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by martinf79

I will see if my dealer can order it. What is the part number?

There are 3 parts per my post, 2 from BMW and 1 DIY. Show the dealer the pics, particularly of the zoomed in back of the rims and the part number sticker on the F15 jack kit, that's simplest.

Edit: I believe the rim/tire is: 36-11-2-470-249 and the F15 jack kit TRAY ONLY is: 71-10-6-775-773

[Fuzzy Master]

LexxM3, sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm currently trying to do exactly what you did by ordering the rim/tire & foam carrier.

When I passed the info on to my dealer to order the parts, they told me that the rim/tire will NOT fit on an M50i with M-sport brakes. And, of course when I asked them to provide me with the correct part numbers and then order them, they said they could not because they don't exist. Did I mention how much I hate BMW Canada for their sheer stupidity ...arghhh.... its not like I'm asking for freebies.

Anyways, can you confirm whether you have the M-sport brakes and have you actually mounted the spare on your car to ensure that it would actually fit?

Also wondering if you have the Luggage Compartment Package (418), since I suspect that the motors under the rear deck may also be a hindrance for the spare wheel?

[TurtleBoy]

A number of members have posted that the spare will work with the MSport brakes and there are shown as available in the US pricing guide.

418 is also available with Spare Tire as the only rule prohibiting the spare is the 3rd row.

[Fuzzy Master]

Thanks TB, I was aware of that info already, but that only applies to ordering the vehicle with those options in the US, something that is not possible in Canada (418, M-sport, & spare). LexxM3 put together his own kit using at least one part (the foam carrier) from an F15, which may be different in some dimensions than the part that comes in the X5 in the US.

I've met with a great deal of resistance from dealers and BMW Canada trying to get a spare, so I want to be absolutely sure of what will work before I press the issue again.

In searching the forum so far, I have not been able to locate confirmation (ideally with pictures) from anyone that has a spare tire kit under the rear deck that also has the luggage compartment package. I am aware that several have posted about having the spare with the M-sport brakes, so that is less of an issue at this point.

[LexxM3]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Master

LexxM3, sorry to revive an old thread, but I'm currently trying to do exactly what you did by ordering the rim/tire & foam carrier.

When I passed the info on to my dealer to order the parts, they told me that the rim/tire will NOT fit on an M50i with M-sport brakes. And, of course when I asked them to provide me with the correct part numbers and then order them, they said they could not because they don't exist. Did I mention how much I hate BMW Canada for their sheer stupidity ...arghhh.... its not like I'm asking for freebies.

Anyways, can you confirm whether you have the M-sport brakes and have you actually mounted the spare on your car to ensure that it would actually fit?

Also wondering if you have the Luggage Compartment Package (418), since I suspect that the motors under the rear deck may also be a hindrance for the spare wheel?

I do have M Sport brakes and do not have the motorized cover, but I have not, actually tried that spare on yet. AndroidRobot has, however, and I believe that is the same rim/tire part number. Regardless, I am going to see if I can find time this weekend to try and take photos. If I can't get to it this weekend, I will certainly be able to do so within 2 weekends during the winters changeover, if you can wait that long.

<insert socialist revolutionary solidarity emoji here> with respect to our shared feelings about BMW Canada idiocy. ✊

[Paladin1]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Master

Thanks TB, I was aware of that info already, but that only applies to ordering the vehicle with those options in the US, something that is not possible in Canada (418, M-sport, & spare). LexxM3 put together his own kit using at least one part (the foam carrier) from an F15, which may be different in some dimensions than the part that comes in the X5 in the US.

I've met with a great deal of resistance from dealers and BMW Canada trying to get a spare, so I want to be absolutely sure of what will work before I press the issue again.

In searching the forum so far, I have not been able to locate confirmation (ideally with pictures) from anyone that has a spare tire kit under the rear deck that also has the luggage compartment package. I am aware that several have posted about having the spare with the M-sport brakes, so that is less of an issue at this point.

I have the spare and the Luggage Compartment Package. And M Sport brakes, 740M 20" RFT. X5 40i. I have not tried the spare tire on to see if it will fit. But if I may - this configuration has been posted here multiple times, with photos and pertinent testimonials. It was - and is - available on the BMW USA configurator just as described, with no restrictions to ordering with any of these options together, no exceptions, no addenda, no fine print or asterisk, no exclusion clause, and mine was delivered from the factory just so equipped. I have seen no comments, in this forum or any other, anywhere, to the effect of "My gosh! My spare doesn't fit!" At some point, a modicum of assumption is required. I am prepared to take BMW at their word that this spare will fit my car should I unfortunately have the need to use it. They have likely produced a few thousand others with this same configuration, for equally oblivious owners, who also no doubt anticipated success at changing a tire with their included spare, and likely more than one have already done so. With no outcry, that I have seen or heard, anywhere, on the multidimensional Internet, of failure.

I have no idea why, a few miles north (and actually south) of Detroit, this configuration is deemed impossible, unheard-of, other-worldly, intolerable and abhorrent in every other way, to install in an X5 produced, actually and ironically, in the US of A, beside an identically dimensioned car, with the options discussed installed, bound, for example, for Houston. Or Mobile. Or Des Moines. Anywhere but, God forbid, Ottowa. Or Calgary. Where, apparently, the Universe is different. It is a puzzlement....

*Addendum. Well, I did check, and it does appear to be a real tire, made with real rubber (although I haven't tested it). It fits completely underneath the motorized cover, although of course the underside could be actually missing or fake - I didn't turn it over. But all superficial indications are that it is in fact a genuine spare tire, with "Continental" perhaps cunningly counterfeited on the side, or perhaps legitimately, although I won't completely commit to that without further investigation. I merely submit for your consideration.