[SoCalS2k]

I was looking at pacific bmws used x5 list and I'm seeing a huge number of them with very very low miles. It almost seems like a dumping ground for low mileage used x5s. Makes me wonder if these are some kind of batch of refurbished cars or press cars or something? Anyone have any ideas??

Makes me skittish about getting one...

https://www.pacificbmw.com/used-vehi...ear%5B%5D=2019

[radelow]

The most likely idea I came up with is occasionally manufacturers offer their vehicles for people to drive during events, competitions, etc.. For example all the players in the US Open might get a car to drive around while they are at the tournament. I noticed a lot of the cars were white... Might explain it.

[TYJ]

Doesn’t seem to be very aggressive pricing despite the miles at roughly 10% off msrp. Fairly easy to achieve that on a 2020 custom factory order with zero miles.

[jasrboyd]

They have 2 50i`s that would be worth a second look IMO. You might be able to get one for what you might have paid for a 40i. These vehicles still have a full warranty and hopefully haven’t been pushed at all.

[Tim2189]

These are most likely service loaners, or as the sales rep like to call "executive demos"

[gpitts]

Originally Posted by nyc328ci

These are most likely service loaners, or as the sales rep like to call "executive demos"

^ This.

[SoCalS2k]

Originally Posted by gpitts

^ This.

Originally Posted by nyc328ci

These are most likely service loaners, or as the sales rep like to call "executive demos"

Get rid of that many loaners after just 1k miles? I'm also surprised they would give be out x5s as loaners, my local places give the cheapest possible car like a 3. But I am curios and gonna ask about that, I wonder if they would tell me the truth lol

[robby818]

Some dealerships distinguish loaners from executive demos, but in the end I think it's all the same game.

Put a few thousand miles on the car so that it can be leased or sold at a discount. BMW knows they can sell X number of cars at MSRP, 7% off MSRP, 10-13% off MSRP, etc. To get to the group of buyers who can buy at 15-20% below MSRP, BMW has these low mileage demos. It lets them sell to the higher profit margin groups and also sell to the buyers who have less to spend without doing crazy massive discounts off MSRP which would hurt the brand's image as a luxury brand and piss off the buyers who bought closer to MSRP. That's actually one of the keys with these demo cars, they are leasable, whereas a used car is not.

I've seen some good discounts on demo cars and I've seen bad discounts. Bad discounts are basically 1-2k off what you could have negotiated off a brand new car. Thats not enough of a discount in my eyes, but then again a car with < 5k miles and untitled is practically new. Just make sure it was not in any accidents, minor & unreported or major.

*If you actually think an "executive" at BMW drove that car, well I think the answer is probably not. It could be anyone in the chain. I believe the port workers get use of a new car every year, it could be anyone really and is probably not a C level executive, but damn thats some good marketing.

[BMPHIL]

In the UK dealers buy management cars with very little mileage and then sell on.

[mrjoed2]

Originally Posted by jasrboyd

They have 2 50i`s that would be worth a second look IMO. You might be able to get one for what you might have paid for a 40i. These vehicles still have a full warranty and hopefully haven’t been pushed at all.

Your making a dangerous assumption that these used X5's have not been pushed at all. How do you have any idea?? They could be abused service loaners. The first 1000 miles is the most critical in a engines life during break in. I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole.

And BTW you better like bland white!!!!

[amphiprion]

Looks like they're all strippers (base configuration).

[claykin]

Originally Posted by mrjoed2

Your making a dangerous assumption that these used X5's have not been pushed at all. How do you have any idea?? They could be abused service loaners. The first 1000 miles is the most critical in a engines life during break in. I wouldn't touch them with a 10ft pole.

And BTW you better like bland white!!!!

Pushed? I think you mean punched.

They might be BMWNA cars sold to dealers. If it's that they're typically sold as new with full warranty. Unless things have changed.

[ILM_X5]

Originally Posted by radelow

The most likely idea I came up with is occasionally manufacturers offer their vehicles for people to drive during events, competitions, etc.. For example all the players in the US Open might get a car to drive around while they are at the tournament. I noticed a lot of the cars were white... Might explain it.

I see this with MB all the time when the Wells Fargo Championship is here. There is a fleet of GLE/GLS and S-class cars that are used for player transportation for the week. Literally hundreds of cars that are staged at CLT. Possibly something akin to that.

[BMPHIL]

Originally Posted by CLT_X5

I see this with MB all the time when the Wells Fargo Championship is here. There is a fleet of GLE/GLS and S-class cars that are used for player transportation for the week. Literally hundreds of cars that are staged at CLT. Possibly something akin to that.

All the cars used for players / officials at the golf British open last week were Mercedes, a lot of them GLE'S.

[mrjoed2]

Originally Posted by claykin

Pushed? I think you mean punched.

They might be BMWNA cars sold to dealers. If it's that they're typically sold as new with full warranty. Unless things have changed.

Does not really change anything. These are cars that have not been treated how they should have been during crucial initial break in. If your looking to lease a cheap stripper at a mediocre discount, fine.
I think you'd be crazy to buy one.

[claykin]

Originally Posted by mrjoed2

Does not really change anything. These are cars that have not been treated how they should have been during crucial initial break in. If your looking to lease a cheap stripper at a mediocre discount, fine.
I think you'd be crazy to buy one.

These can't be BMWNA cars. They don't use stripped versions, not that I've ever seen. Usually the opposite or at least reasonably optioned out.

And so many white ones with the same msrp. Weirdness. Some say 1 owner, others say nothing about previous ownership.

I'd love to hear more about where these gems came from.

[gpitts]

Originally Posted by SoCalS2k

Get rid of that many loaners after just 1k miles? I'm also surprised they would give be out x5s as loaners, my local places give the cheapest possible car like a 3. But I am curios and gonna ask about that, I wonder if they would tell me the truth lol

Yes, my dealer has a LOT of service loaners. They won't keep them for too many miles - can't remember the limit - so as to maximize the resell value.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by gpitts

Yes, my dealer has a LOT of service loaners. They won't keep them for too many miles - can't remember the limit - so as to maximize the resell value.

I don't think they're service loaners, dealers and BMW share in the depreciation of service loaners and usually cannot sell them until they are a minimum of four months old to around six or so months. By then, they normally have around 8k miles, +/-.

I started a chat session with Pacific to ask about them but the chat person said although they did indeed see them in their inventory system, they would have to inquire and get back to me as to why they are as they are. 13 X5's Alpine White with black SensaTec and all at the same price and between 1-2K miles. Well, I'm not interested in buying one and didn't want to give them my contact info so I never found out why

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Marty in Bgm

I don't think they're service loaners, dealers and BMW share in the depreciation of service loaners and usually cannot sell them until they are a minimum of four months old to around six or so months. By then, they normally have around 8k miles, +/-.

According to my Service Director and Sales Manager they must pull a loaner car out of service before it hits 5,000 miles in order to be able to receive compensation from BMW and sell it as new with incentives/current financing. After 5k, BMW will no longer allow them to use incentives to sell it.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

According to my Service Director and Sales Manager they must pull a loaner car out of service before it hits 5,000 miles in order to be able to receive compensation from BMW and sell it as new with incentives/current financing. After 5k, BMW will no longer allow them to use incentives to sell it.

Could be. My info comes from PA and is about 9 months old. Just seems strange to have listed 13 identical cars like they did. I don't really care as I'm not interested in one but it does raise the curiosity level in me both in terms of what they are doing and in case I run into this where I might want to buy one.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by gpitts

Yes, my dealer has a LOT of service loaners. They won't keep them for too many miles - can't remember the limit - so as to maximize the resell value.

5k miles is the max my dealer loaner cars can get. Almost any car can be a dealer loaner car depending on how the dealer treats their valued customer. I am extremely picky to the point I have a standing order for no one to wash a new BMW I am buying so I would have to really think about buying a $100k car that was used for a loaner. The discount probably wouldn’t be worth it to my ocd mind as I may wake up with night terrors wondering how the car was driven at brake in.

Heck, while ordering my X5 my dealer gave me a i8 to drive around in for half a day while we were trying to get my 50i.

[Marty in NY]

Seems no matter which dealer has given me a service loaner over the years, when I go to get in it, I end up calling them over to clean the interior first...some were disgusting. The last one was in Florida, they had to clean someones left over McDonalds burger wrapper, complete with melted cheese, old coffee cup, crumbs on the front seats, carpeting and center console, not to mention plenty of greasy finger prints.
It was a new X3 with less than 1K miles and was their last X3 loaner available that day and that's what I wanted to drive. In fact, now that I'm writing this, it happened twice at that same dealership. So in terms of how the loaner cars are driven, yeah, take a guess!