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      04-03-2024, 08:19 AM   #1
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2024 X5 M60i - gas pedal sensitivity from 0 mph

Serious question - not related to 500+ HP.

Have 1,200 miles on new M60i. Mostly amazing vehicle!

I find the gas pedal to be really sensitive when starting from zero. Slightest touch causes lurch forward.

Seems like some marketing genius attempt at sending subliminal feeling of horsepower. Annoying for smooth driving.

Anybody else feel this way? Is it adjustable?
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      04-03-2024, 08:39 AM   #2
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I've never thought that about the gas pedal being too sensitive at take off. Seems very smooth and easy to get rolling very slowly if you want.
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      04-03-2024, 08:49 AM   #3
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It does jump forward being very torquey. Especially in the parking lot.
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      04-03-2024, 08:52 AM   #4
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Now at 8500 miles on my M 60i and it doesn’t have this problem. However, the car will haul ass!
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      04-03-2024, 09:21 AM   #5
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I test drove a M60i (it had 3000 miles on the clock) and I felt it held first gear to long even in comfort mode. Something I noticed right away. But not a deal breaker.
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      04-03-2024, 10:16 AM   #6
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It does jump forward being very torquey. Especially in the parking lot.
Thank you for making me not feel crazy, however, based on other early responses maybe inconsistent or personal.

We have an Audi TDI and GMC Sierra w/6.2L. Having trouble moving between the 3. Strange.
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      04-03-2024, 10:24 AM   #7
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I test drove the m60i as my first BMW with my wife. We're coming from a Jeep Cherokee with a 4-cylinder turbo. I expected to put my foot down on the turbo and rocket into orbit. Honestly I found the experience much less jarring than I expected. But oh man the breaks. I felt like I needed a bucket after letting my wife drive from the break experience.
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      04-03-2024, 05:03 PM   #8
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Have not experienced any type of lurch forward with light throttle, roughly 5k miles on mine.
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The tip-in logic and transmission shifting tends to vary based on what mode you’re in. Have you tried the various available modes? Some of them can be customized.
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      04-03-2024, 07:15 PM   #10
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I’ve not had this experience or sensation. Actually, sometimes I feel like there’s a slight hesitation when I accelerate after a stop with A.S.S.
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Tip-in on modern BMWs is entirely controlled by the computer and its programming assuming there’s not an actual engine fault. The throttle position is detected via a sensor - it does not directly connect to the actual engine. So, mode you’re in can make a difference.

If you’ve got ASS in operation, because there’s a potential slight delay in the activation and where your foot may have pressed the pedal prior to the engine coming on, it could ‘think’ you’re pressing it further than you intended, resulting in a surge at the beginning. This is potentially more common if you are a two foot driver in the timing between releasing the brake with the left foot versus how you’re pressing the accelerator with your right.
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Put it in eco mode that will solve your problem.
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      04-04-2024, 12:54 AM   #13
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I only feel that on 40i when ASS is active - as a result I now only drive in Sport or Sport Individual……
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      04-04-2024, 02:30 AM   #14
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Originally Posted by X5 M60i Michigan View Post
Serious question - not related to 500+ HP.

Have 1,200 miles on new M60i. Mostly amazing vehicle!

I find the gas pedal to be really sensitive when starting from zero. Slightest touch causes lurch forward.

Seems like some marketing genius attempt at sending subliminal feeling of horsepower. Annoying for smooth driving.

Anybody else feel this way? Is it adjustable?
Somewhat related, but didn't Subaru program the throttle response in the WRX to be non-linear and make it seem like the vehicle had more power/torque than it really had?

I never experienced any lurching in my 2024 X5 40i, but I did notice the engine would often rev higher (3500 rpm) like it was in sport mode even when it was comfort mode and I was light on the gas. I think a few have even commented that sport mode (not sport +) now feels a bit too aggressive.

If BMW is tweaking the drive modes, I wouldn't be surprised.

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The M60i is very docile from start to me, but if you want it to haul ass, it will very easily! No need for BMW to do that on the V8. I think it could be a slight difference in calibration via the computer is giving the surging feel at initial throttle input for the OP. Back when you had carburetors and could advance timing on the engine you could easily get this effect.
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Put it in eco mode that will solve your problem.
I happened to see this same compliant on another forum. One of the responses was that using eco mode didn't help.
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      04-04-2024, 09:14 AM   #17
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The tip-in logic and transmission shifting tends to vary based on what mode you’re in. Have you tried the various available modes? Some of them can be customized.
It's my wife's DD. I need to spend some time to test this.
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      04-04-2024, 01:00 PM   #18
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You find throttle tip-in is more rapid on cars in a lineup that have sporting intentions than those without; it's free differentiation in the feel of the car.

Usually this goes away with familiarity; you get used to giving the pedal more of a caress than a press.

Not sure if it's a more singular thing or might apply in general... When Mrs Crab had the same problem, it turned out she was fine when she wasn't wearing heels. With them, she had trouble modulating the throttle.
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      04-04-2024, 06:58 PM   #19
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Tip-in on modern BMWs is entirely controlled by the computer and its programming assuming there’s not an actual engine fault. The throttle position is detected via a sensor - it does not directly connect to the actual engine. So, mode you’re in can make a difference.

If you’ve got ASS in operation, because there’s a potential slight delay in the activation and where your foot may have pressed the pedal prior to the engine coming on, it could ‘think’ you’re pressing it further than you intended, resulting in a surge at the beginning. This is potentially more common if you are a two foot driver in the timing between releasing the brake with the left foot versus how you’re pressing the accelerator with your right.
It's my wife's DD. ASS may be culprit, although I have this in my GMC and it's no issue. I do need to try the different modes (ASS off, eco, sport, etc.) and see if it responds differently.

Fair point on 2 foot drivers. Not our case.

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You find throttle tip-in is more rapid on cars in a lineup that have sporting intentions than those without; it's free differentiation in the feel of the car.

Usually this goes away with familiarity; you get used to giving the pedal more of a caress than a press.

Not sure if it's a more singular thing or might apply in general... When Mrs Crab had the same problem, it turned out she was fine when she wasn't wearing heels. With them, she had trouble modulating the throttle.
I've had the issue consistently with one foot driving with everyday shoes flat sole (trail runner) shoes.
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      04-04-2024, 07:05 PM   #20
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Don’t experience this at all in my M60i.
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How can you say it’s not related to the 523 HP? Of course it is.
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      04-05-2024, 08:11 PM   #22
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How can you say it’s not related to the 523 HP? Of course it is.
Ha! Fair point. Might need my head examined.
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