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      01-30-2019, 06:44 PM   #67
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I just called the CCA again. Talked to someone in membership and she said effective in 2019 you CANNOT get the CCA rebate if you use a USAA incentive. This is the exact opposite of what I was told last week. I will have my CA remove the USAA rebate from my deal before the deal is consummated since it's only $250 and the CCA rebate is $1000.

Added: I just received this email from the BMWCCA:


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I am very sorry but I gave you misinformation. BMW NA has said that the BMW NA Corporate Sales Program is excluded and in that category, they are including the USAA rebate. They allowed USAA to be combinable for the last half of 2018 but have stopped that for the 2019 program. You will want to deny the USAA benefit and take our rebate if ours is larger. Again, I apologize for the incorrect information given to you on January 23.


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I just called the CCA again. Talked to someone in membership and she said effective in 2019 you CANNOT get the CCA rebate if you use a USAA incentive. This is the exact opposite of what I was told last week. I will have my CA remove the USAA rebate from my deal before the deal is consummated since it's only $250 and the CCA rebate is $1000.

Added: I just received this email from the BMWCCA:


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I am very sorry but I gave you misinformation. BMW NA has said that the BMW NA Corporate Sales Program is excluded and in that category, they are including the USAA rebate. They allowed USAA to be combinable for the last half of 2018 but have stopped that for the 2019 program. You will want to deny the USAA benefit and take our rebate if ours is larger. Again, I apologize for the incorrect information given to you on January 23.


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Whoa!! This is not cool.
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Bait and switch?

Check this out. "BMW NA reserves the right to make program changes without prior notification."

https://www.bmwcca.org/vehicle_rebate

Does this apply to the Corporate Sales Programs only? I'm buying as an individual off the street.

I have the $2,000 rebate for BMW financing and a $500 USAA rebate line item stated on the order. My sales manager recently told me that what is stated on the bottom line of the order is what I pay when I questioned the numbers, again. Can they legally (if not ethically) move the goalpost? If so that's pretty chicken shit.

Also I'm confused as to when you need to apply. Based on all the reported problems of this new machine I may bail on the deal at the last minute, upon delivery. Accordingly, I only wish to apply for membership should we accept the car.

I guess I need to call them up but this is what's in writing which seems contradictory:

1. Have you purchased a three year membership no later than 15 days after your vehicle Purchase/lease?

2. TERMS AND CONDITIONS

A membership requirement may be met in one of two ways:

A membership of one year or more immediately preceding the delivery date of the vehicle is required to take advantage of this program. A member in good standing cannot have any lapse in membership during that 12-month period.

A non-refundable membership of three or more years purchased on or before the purchase date of the vehicle may immediately qualify a member to apply for a rebate.
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The USAA discount is not a separate line item on my buyers contract so do you guys think I'll have an issue?
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The USAA discount is not a separate line item on my buyers contract so do you guys think I'll have an issue?
Speak with your sales manager or their finance manager.

Here's mine.
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The USAA discount is not a separate line item on my buyers contract so do you guys think I'll have an issue?
Speak with your sales manager or their finance manager.

Here's mine.
See mine isn't noted like that so I'm hoping it won't be an issue.
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BMWCCA reviews the rebate application. Then it goes to BMWNA for approval. I think they verify with the dealer what rebates were included in your deal. I bought an F10 3 years ago and my BMWCCA rebate was disallowed because a USAA rebate was included in the deal. Now that I have been informed that you cannot get both I am going to forgo the $250 USAA incentive in favor of the $1000 BMWCCA rebate.
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The USAA discount is not a separate line item on my buyers contract so do you guys think I'll have an issue?
Android - mine ($500) was subtracted from the negotiated price. For example: if I had negotiated $68,500. When I brought in my USAA voucher and they drew up the bill of sale, the number used for the vehicle price was $68,000
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Android - mine ($500) was subtracted from the negotiated price. For example: if I had negotiated $68,500. When I brought in my USAA voucher and they drew up the bill of sale, the number used for the vehicle price was $68,000
So was yours a separate line item on the bill of sale
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So was yours a separate line item on the bill of sale
Like I said here, sales manager agreed to eat the losses.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4#post24317294

Folks need to make the call to BMW CCA and get the correct info. Things have changed.
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      01-31-2019, 12:09 PM   #77
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So was yours a separate line item on the bill of sale
Like I said here, sales manager agreed to eat the losses.

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...4#post24317294

Folks need to make the call to BMW CCA and get the correct info. Things have changed.
I'm not worried because mine isn't a separate line item but I see your point
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I'm not worried because mine isn't a separate line item but I see your point
I agree with that. I was told BMWNA will review the orders in the system prior to payment. If they see a conflict they won’t pay. If yours has no reference to it then no problem. In a post above the person had it as a line item. That would be a problem and they might not pay.
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I'm not worried because mine isn't a separate line item but I see your point
I agree with that. I was told BMWNA will review the orders in the system prior to payment. If they see a conflict they won’t pay. If yours has no reference to it then no problem. In a post above the person had it as a line item. That would be a problem and they might not pay.
I don't know what's in their system but I'll fight it worst case
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I don't know what's in their system but I'll fight it worst case
Yeah, I would too if it gets denied.

The language states only corporate / sales fleet programs can not be used in combination with CCA.

They did not communicate that USAAA was now in they category. The only way someone would know is if you call to verify.

Sounds like someone made a decision to cut costs.
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Yeah, I would too if it gets denied.

The language states only corporate / sales fleet programs can not be used in combination with CCA.

They did not communicate that USAAA was now in they category. The only way someone would know is if you call to verify.

Sounds like someone made a decision to cut costs.
Yep, I'd fight it at the dealer/BMA NA level, or pay the dealer $250 and get the CCA. I'll roll the dice and send in what I have.
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So was yours a separate line item on the bill of sale
No. Deduction was taken from agreed to price, listed at the top of the bill of sale. So not listed
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No. Deduction was taken from agreed to price, listed at the top of the bill of sale. So not listed
hmm interesting can you post a snippet of that?
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I think the dealer submits to get the $250 and BMWNA is in the loop and thus denies the CCA rebate.
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hmm interesting can you post a snippet of that?
There is no snippet to show. The Purchase Contract doesn't show anything specific to USAA - other than "Price of Unit" which is $500 less than we agreed to/was negotiated. BMW took my USAA voucher on delivery day - which had my unique offer code, etc on it. And then BMW wrote up the contract with a "Price of Unit" that was $500 less... then deducted trade in and other non-USAA rebates.

Who knows - they may have just decided to take $500 off the price of the vehicle on not deal with processing the voucher.
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hmm interesting can you post a snippet of that?
There is no snippet to show. The Purchase Contract doesn't show anything specific to USAA - other than "Price of Unit" which is $500 less than we agreed to/was negotiated. BMW took my USAA voucher on delivery day - which had my unique offer code, etc on it. And then BMW wrote up the contract with a "Price of Unit" that was $500 less... then deducted trade in and other non-USAA rebates.

Who knows - they may have just decided to take $500 off the price of the vehicle on not deal with processing the voucher.
I see, mines the same way but it was only $250 and taken off with all other rebates or incentives in one lump sum
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GOOD NEWS!! I just received this email from the BMWCCA. I hope this helps anyone who has recently purchased or is in the process of buying a BMW who also qualifies for the USAA incentive.

Rewards@bmwcca.org
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Randall,

I hope you have not purchased this car yet because BMW NA just told us that they have changed their mind and will combine USAA with our rebate. .Please also inform your friend that was questioning it that as of today BMW NA is allowing USAA for all 2019. They can submit and qualify.


I am so sorry for all of this confusion and back and forth. Please enjoy both rebates!! There will not be another update on this, I promise.

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GOOD NEWS!! I just received this email from the BMWCCA. I hope this helps anyone who has recently purchased or is in the process of buying a BMW who also qualifies for the USAA incentive.

Rewards@bmwcca.org
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Randall,

I hope you have not purchased this car yet because BMW NA just told us that they have changed their mind and will combine USAA with our rebate. .Please also inform your friend that was questioning it that as of today BMW NA is allowing USAA for all 2019. They can submit and qualify.


I am so sorry for all of this confusion and back and forth. Please enjoy both rebates!! There will not be another update on this, I promise.

Tricia
Wow, I like more rebates. Thanks for the update!
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