[OMGU812]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

I literally sent this to my sales manager a few minutes ago who blamed the new car problems on software glitches yesterday when I brought it up.


Hey J****h, the bugs are far from software based only. There's a lot of folks that have non software related issues. Please have someone inspect, drive, and make sure we don't get a lemon. Been reading a lot of owner "not ready for prime time" comments for weeks and it scares the hell outta me:

"This car has been such a colossal disappointment."
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1578115

Horror story: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577656

Factory paint quality:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577955

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1574728

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1576814

Regards,
Mark

Mark,
Don't take this the wrong way, but maybe this car isn't right for you. At least not this early in the life cycle.
It's like when I was talking to a patient earlier today going through the "informed consent" for her upcoming surgery. After I discuss all the risks I sometimes add, if I sense they are particularly wary, "and i guarantee we can avoid any of that stuff if we don't go to the OR". There's no way you can be guaranteed of anything...unless you just don't go there. But maybe you should wait later in the year and you would perhaps avoid some issues and be happier.

Ok and now let's return to our "happy talk" thread please!!

[wrickem]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

I literally sent this to my sales manager a few minutes ago who blamed the new car problems on software glitches yesterday when I brought it up.


Hey J****h, the bugs are far from software based only. There's a lot of folks that have non software related issues. Please have someone inspect, drive, and make sure we don't get a lemon. Been reading a lot of owner "not ready for prime time" comments for weeks and it scares the hell outta me:

"This car has been such a colossal disappointment."
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1578115

Horror story: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577656

Factory paint quality:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577955

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1574728

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1576814

Regards,
Mark

You're going to absolutely hate your G05 and nit-pick it apart....just because you just want to. .....and also you're getting very annoying with your troll posts around here.


If you had any sense at all, you should probably cancel your order and stick with Lexus.

I'd also bet that you're Sales Associate would be happy to see you go back to Lexus and be out of their life too. I sure hope they warn their Service Department about you coming their way if you decide to actually get a BMW. You've got to be their most annoying customer ever!

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

I literally sent this to my sales manager a few minutes ago who blamed the new car problems on software glitches yesterday when I brought it up.


Hey J****h, the bugs are far from software based only. There's a lot of folks that have non software related issues. Please have someone inspect, drive, and make sure we don't get a lemon. Been reading a lot of owner "not ready for prime time" comments for weeks and it scares the hell outta me:

"This car has been such a colossal disappointment."
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1578115

Horror story: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577656

Factory paint quality:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577955

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1574728

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1576814

I don't know of any product being produced, especially one so complicated and manufactured with human intervention, that does not have some output that is defective. You have to keep in mind that the number of postings you see here are such a small percentage of the X5s on the road that it is statistically insignificant.

Obviously any problems that an owner encounters is very significant to them but given thousands of the X5s have been sold and there are less than a few handful of problems showing up here I don't think it has reached a crisis level.

I prepared myself for running into quite a few issues, bugs, etc. and so far have not encountered any. My cornering lights probably don't work and maybe the safety warnings/braking aren't as sensitive, or even working, as they should be. Neither of those are of a great concern to me since they can be fixed with a software update. Having been in the software arena for many years I would be ashamed to put out a product with bugs in it but that is unfortunately the way things often happen nowadays given marketing/strategic pressures.

You may feel much different about what you can tolerate in regards to features missing and not working correctly and only you can make the decision as to whether you want to get the X5 or not. For me, while I love the technology, safety features, etc. there was no one main item that affected my decision to get the X5. I looked at the entire package and it was what was right for me. Looking at it now, even with the missing features, bugs, issues, etc., I still believe I made the right choice. Good luck with yours.

[MystroX5]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

I literally sent this to my sales manager a few minutes ago who blamed the new car problems on software glitches yesterday when I brought it up.


Hey J****h, the bugs are far from software based only. There's a lot of folks that have non software related issues. Please have someone inspect, drive, and make sure we don't get a lemon. Been reading a lot of owner "not ready for prime time" comments for weeks and it scares the hell outta me:

"This car has been such a colossal disappointment."
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1578115

Horror story: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577656

Factory paint quality:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577955

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1574728

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1576814

Regards,
Mark

Mark do you even own a X5 yet? When did you take delivery? Since December when your threads started you were pessimistic, skeptical, and unhappy the new X5 doesn’t measure up to your current Lexus. I can’t find where you actually own a X5 yet to be so jaded. Better yet, why would you even want to own a X5 given your negative view point? If you haven’t taken delivery yet, bail now as you are in no contractual obligation yet. Life’s too short, it’s just a car, find a vehicle you are excited about and will make you happy.

[TestnDoc]

Originally Posted by Mark609

I hope you folks are being honest and are not too proud to admit you did an "aw shit" regarding your choice. I have no patience for sloppy work on such an expensive car nor the motivation to have to drive for an hour to my dealer who may or may not be able to fix the bugs as reported by folks who have had their cars in the shop for weeks.

I literally sent this to my sales manager a few minutes ago who blamed the new car problems on software glitches yesterday when I brought it up.


Hey J****h, the bugs are far from software based only. There's a lot of folks that have non software related issues. Please have someone inspect, drive, and make sure we don't get a lemon. Been reading a lot of owner "not ready for prime time" comments for weeks and it scares the hell outta me:

"This car has been such a colossal disappointment."
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1578115

Horror story: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577656

Factory paint quality:
https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1577955

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1574728

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1576814

Regards,
Mark

I second this. This car was not ready for prime time. WAY too many bugs. I would not have bought it, knowing what I know now.

[OMGU812]

Originally Posted by MystroX5

Mark do you even own a X5 yet? When did you take delivery? Since December when your threads started you were pessimistic, skeptical, and unhappy the new X5 doesn’t measure up to your current Lexus.

Great questions. The old adage holds true..."Credibility - you gain it in inches, you lose it in yards."

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by TestnDoc

I second this. This car was not ready for prime time. WAY too many bugs. I would not have bought it, knowing what I know now.

Hey, dude, this is my HAPPY THREAD. Most of the threads are bitch and moan threads.

But this is MY H-A-P-P-Y thread.👊🏻👍🏻😍❤️😁

[OMGU812]

Back in 2007 or so, thread hi-jacking was sort of OK, because nobody really understood what was going on. But this is freaking '19 for crying out loud!! These guys don't even give you the half-hearted "Sorry for the hijack, but..."

In the immortal words of ESPN, "C'mon Man!!"

[mnewnam]

Lexus isn't even in the same ballpark man. If only they spent enough time on the driving experience as they do with how a button feels and sounds when pushed...

And Googling Lexus RX issues brings up plenty of problems... from "plastic this and plastic that" to infotainment is sh*t... to the marshmallow ride... There is no car company that is immune from problems, quirks, or complaints. I'd much rather have a few issues and drive a driver's car than that... thing.

This is supposed to be a happy thread...

As I was telling people at the dealership yesterday, yes I've had problems, but hot damn it puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. I cannot wait for our next road trip AND I USED TO HATE DRIVING ON LONG TRIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TestnDoc]

Originally Posted by Doc5513

Hey, dude, this is my HAPPY THREAD. Most of the threads are bitch and moan threads.

But this is MY H-A-P-P-Y thread.����������❤️��

You are correct. I apologize!!! To be fair, the new X5 is very nice, just buggy.

[Hchhuor]

My wife very happy with her x5. Pick it last Friday. Put 100 miles from Houston to home. No fun driving home when everyone pass you up. Everything work. I’m going to try Apple car play and hot spot next.

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by TestnDoc

You are correct. I apologize!!! To be fair, the new X5 is very nice, just buggy.

All is Forgiven👊🏼😘

[JDBrown]

This G05 forum is starting to sound like one for a new iPhone release! Wanting to buy into cutting edge tech, but expecting there to be no bugs (no offense to those with legitimate and horrible issues, I know there are some.) is crazy. For those who bought into a fresh release expecting perfection, you know the motto, wait a year. For me, I get into it every day and smile. I love the drive, I love the tech, I love the seats, I love the stereo. So I would buy another one tomorrow. To those with the legitimate issues, I feel for you and am sorry. For those expecting perfection on a year 1 release, that is likely never going to happen such a competitive industry where the the focus is getting the tech on the road as quickly as possible to make an impact for the brand. now I do think BMW could be more proactive on updates to address these issues, so no argument there. Again, no offense and I feel for those who are frustrated... this is just my feeling. Im wrong a lot ask my better half. :-)

[OMGU812]

Originally Posted by TestnDoc

You are correct. I apologize!!! To be fair, the new X5 is very nice, just buggy.

Well done Doc. We could all learn a thing or 2 from your humility -from your background, you clearly have a lot of experience with BMW’s. Thanks for your kind response. Good on you!

[Mark609]

Originally Posted by TestnDoc

I second this. This car was not ready for prime time. WAY too many bugs. I would not have bought it, knowing what I know now.

Now that's a flame bait post. Thanks for your honesty and having some cajones. if you don't mind me asking what did you buy?

Not here to hijack anything, much less this feel good thread. Just expressing my anxiety to my Sales Manager, copying you butt slappin' good ol boyz based on all the real world issues I am reading here starting with faulty factory paint job and the horror of a leaking A/C drain that rocks your life. The fact that BMW is not quickly willing to give this family a new car sucks....as it sits there in 100 parts with no chance it can ever be put back together again correctly by a service dept.

Yeah, I'd sure as hell wait another 6 months or so IF I knew I could get the same high trade value then and the same incredible deal we made Jan. 2 which was 7% off MSRP with all the discounts and such on a build with items we want. It all boils down to taking risk.

I've looked at them all and made what I HOPE is the right choice.

After much research and test drives here's my take on luxury SUV's.

Volvo XC90 - beautiful build, fine ride but lame engine and a reliability record that hits new lows, on par with Fiat and Jeep.

Acura MDX - Like Lexus one of the most reliable cars on the road with LOTS of room, good ride, but lacking in luxury.

2010 MB GLE - new generation, later this year release, uggg. MB has the reputation of having a great ride, good tech, fair reliablity. The ones I've test drove have been pretty nice.

Audi Q7 - almost pulled the trigger on that one but the lack of console space and general cabin space is really bad and a deal killer.

Lexus - would go back in a minute but can't take the angry, butt ugly look. What were they thinking?

Porsche Cayenne - terrible value

Car is in production and we're under no obligation to accept it unless we're totally satisfied. Now, if we had put down a non refundable deposit, that would be different.

[wrickem]

Originally Posted by Mark609

Now that's a flame bait post. Thanks for your honesty and having some cajones. if you don't mind me asking what did you buy?

Not here to hijack anything, much less this feel good thread. Just expressing my anxiety to my Sales Manager, copying you butt slappin' good ol boyz based on all the real world issues I am reading here starting with faulty factory paint job and the horror of a leaking A/C drain that rocks your life. The fact that BMW is not quickly willing to give this family a new car sucks....as it sits there in 100 parts with no chance it can ever be put back together again correctly by a service dept.

Yeah, I'd sure as hell wait another 6 months or so IF I knew I could get the same high trade value then and the same incredible deal we made Jan. 2 which was 7% off MSRP with all the discounts and such on a build with items we want. It all boils down to taking risk.

I've looked at them all and made what I HOPE is the right choice.

After much research and test drives here's my take on luxury SUV's.

Volvo XC90 - beautiful build, fine ride but lame engine and a reliability record that hits new lows, on par with Fiat and Jeep.

Honda MDX - Like Lexus one of the most reliable cars on the road with LOTS of room, good ride, but lacking in luxury.

2010 MB GLE - new generation, later this year release, uggg. MB has the reputation of having a great ride, good tech, fair reliablity. The ones I've test drove have been pretty nice.

Audi Q7 - almost pulled the trigger on that one but the lack of console space and general cabin space is really bad and a deal killer.

Lexus - would go back in a minute but can't take the angry, butt ugly look. What were they thinking?

Porsche Cayenne - terrible value

Car is in production and we're under no obligation to accept it unless we're totally satisfied. Now, if we had put down a non refundable deposit, that would be different.

No, you knew exactly what you were doing hijacking the "happy thread". In true troll form.

I sincerely feel sorry for your service manager and their service department if you don't cancel and go get yourself a new Lexus.

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by Mark609

Now that's a flame bait post. Thanks for your honesty and having some cajones. if you don't mind me asking what did you buy?

Not here to hijack anything, much less this feel good thread. Just expressing my anxiety to my Sales Manager, copying you butt slappin' good ol boyz based on all the real world issues I am reading here starting with faulty factory paint job and the horror of a leaking A/C drain that rocks your life. The fact that BMW is not quickly willing to give this family a new car sucks....as it sits there in 100 parts with no chance it can ever be put back together again correctly by a service dept.

Yeah, I'd sure as hell wait another 6 months or so IF I knew I could get the same high trade value then and the same incredible deal we made Jan. 2 which was 7% off MSRP with all the discounts and such on a build with items we want. It all boils down to taking risk.

I've looked at them all and made what I HOPE is the right choice.

After much research and test drives here's my take on luxury SUV's.

Volvo XC90 - beautiful build, fine ride but lame engine and a reliability record that hits new lows, on par with Fiat and Jeep.

Acura MDX - Like Lexus one of the most reliable cars on the road with LOTS of room, good ride, but lacking in luxury.

2010 MB GLE - new generation, later this year release, uggg. MB has the reputation of having a great ride, good tech, fair reliablity. The ones I've test drove have been pretty nice.

Audi Q7 - almost pulled the trigger on that one but the lack of console space and general cabin space is really bad and a deal killer.

Lexus - would go back in a minute but can't take the angry, butt ugly look. What were they thinking?

Porsche Cayenne - terrible value

Car is in production and we're under no obligation to accept it unless we're totally satisfied. Now, if we had put down a non refundable deposit, that would be different.

And, once again, the purpose of this thread wasn't for you to share your journey through hijack. But, hey, it's the internet🤦🏻*♂️

[JGoodell]

Originally Posted by Doc5513

And, once again, the purpose of this thread wasn't for you to share your journey through hijack. But, hey, it's the internet🤦🏻*♂️

I've said this a few times now. There are 2 sides to this story. 1 side is the enthusiasts who will adapt early regardless of the risks to have the latest and greatest. If you can put up with possibly going to the dealership multiple times and driving a loaner for a while then god speed.

Then there are the people who maybe coming out of a lease and need a new car and obviously a shiny new redone X5 catches their eye. Most people have read about past X5's and are impressed by their reliability and they expect that with the new X5. Having read what they're read here it scares those people (I one of them). I cart around 2 kids and 2 dogs (behind a pet containment gate) daily. Going to the dealership and getting a loaner is the equivalent of being audited or divorced for me.

I pulled out of my order yesterday, prepared to lose my deposit because I can't risk this happening to me, I'll lose my fucking mind.

With that said, I will continue to follow this forum. You guys are an invaluable source of info and I appreciate every one of you. I'll be back for the 2020 and I hope I can pick it up, drive the shit out of it and see the dealer at the first oil change.

[OMGU812]

Originally Posted by Mark609

Not here to hijack anything,

In the immortal words of Inigo Montoya, "I do not think that word means what you think it means."

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by JGoodell

I've said this a few times now. There are 2 sides to this story. 1 side is the enthusiasts who will adapt early regardless of the risks to have the latest and greatest. If you can put up with possibly going to the dealership multiple times and driving a loaner for a while then god speed.

Then there are the people who maybe coming out of a lease and need a new car and obviously a shiny new redone X5 catches their eye. Most people have read about past X5's and are impressed by their reliability and they expect that with the new X5. Having read what they're read here it scares those people (I one of them). I cart around 2 kids and 2 dogs (behind a pet containment gate) daily. Going to the dealership and getting a loaner is the equivalent of being audited or divorced for me.

I pulled out of my order yesterday, prepared to lose my deposit because I can't risk this happening to me, I'll lose my fucking mind.

With that said, I will continue to follow this forum. You guys are an invaluable source of info and I appreciate every one of you. I'll be back for the 2020 and I hope I can pick it up, drive the shit out of it and see the dealer at the first oil change.

Godspeed.
Back to "Happy" talk

[OMGU812]

Originally Posted by JGoodell

Going to the dealership and getting a loaner is the equivalent of being audited or divorced for me.

1. You drive a Jeep?
2.