[sunfarm]

Guys I need you advice. I went to dealer PPF and Ceramic coating and get mixed answer from him to do only: PPF whole vehicle and don't need ceramic coating, but I want full front PPF and full vehicle ceramic coating. Please advice.

[Benztir]

Lease or Purchase?
Obviously both is better but if you are likely to get if of the car in 4-5 years, PPF whole vehicle is good enough

[BMWClove]

I would recommend the ceramic on top of the PPF. First time I did PPF and ceramic my vehicle and do not regret it one bit.

I did entire Full hood/fenders, bumper, rockers, bottom of doors, door handles, and rear impacted area with ceramic ontop and ceramic on rims.

Typically keep my cars for 3-4 years. The extra money to do the entire car wasn't worth it for me personally.

[nZtiZia]

he may be saying that depending on the offered product. apparently, SunTek and STek both offer ppf with built-in ceramic qualities; essentially they're 2-in-1. SunTek's is called Reaction and has pretty good reviews. may wanna clarify...

my detailer only installs XPEL, which doesn't have such an offering, so my car if full stealth ppf + ceramic coating (separate procedures). u may be saving money if it is indeed a combined product.

[sunfarm]

How this is edges looking transition between PPF and ceramic coating?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by sunfarm

How this is edges looking transition between PPF and ceramic coating?

there is no transition on traditional ceramic coating applied on top of ppf. it's a liquid that gets applied in one or more layers depending on intended durability.

if you're asking about a car that's partially ppf and partially ceramic, there is no transition between the two as ppf is a film with an edge. the appearance of the edge depends on the thickness of the ppf.

[-Vanguard-]

Waste of money imo. Just enjoy the car and trade it in after 4 years lol

[SmartSaves]

If you lease then I would not do anything.

I keep my vehicles until they are not reasonably repairable and went to with full vehicle XPEL 10 mil, but no coating. Some will say it is waste of money, but I drive with peace in mind.

[john1200c]

Does using an automated car was shorten the life on these treatments? I'm too lazy to hand wash my cars but these really look nice. On a related note with DAPP does the car think something is crashing into it when going through a car wash or perhaps it disengages when the car is in neutral?

[Auricom]

Originally Posted by john1200c

Does using an automated car was shorten the life on these treatments? I'm too lazy to hand wash my cars but these really look nice. On a related note with DAPP does the car think something is crashing into it when going through a car wash or perhaps it disengages when the car is in neutral?

DAPP or PDC? Most likely Park Distance Control if the camera views with visual warnings come up in the Control display. Just press the PDC button near the shifter to turn it off.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by john1200c

Does using an automated car was shorten the life on these treatments? I'm too lazy to hand wash my cars but these really look nice. On a related note with DAPP does the car think something is crashing into it when going through a car wash or perhaps it disengages when the car is in neutral?

Many say don't use touchless car washes on ceramic because the chemicals hurt the ceramic. Also they say you should choose the wax/shine/etc. finishes that car washes offer.

As far as cruise, I wouldn't see any situation where it would be active when going thru a car wash. You usually get messages about parking and the assistance systems not be available due to the foam and water.

I'm currently trying to decide what to do with the M340i I have coming. I don't hand wash for a few reasons and currently use a non-touchless wash on my X5. I do not have PPF or ceramic on it. For the M340i, I think I will do PPF on the front, maybe hood, and the ceramic coat it. Then I will use a touchless wash that is not supposed to be using harsh chemicals and choose no wax.

[john1200c]

Originally Posted by Auricom

DAPP or PDC? Most likely Park Distance Control if the camera views with visual warnings come up in the Control display. Just press the PDC button near the shifter to turn it off.

Was referring to the anti collision features in the DAP...

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by john1200c

Was referring to the anti collision features in the DAP...

There is nothing in DAP that will be triggered in a car wash.

[john1200c]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

There is nothing in DAP that will be triggered in a car wash.

Ok thanks!

[floridaman100]

Originally Posted by sunfarm

Guys I need you advice. I went to dealer PPF and Ceramic coating and get mixed answer from him to do only: PPF whole vehicle and don't need ceramic coating, but I want full front PPF and full vehicle ceramic coating. Please advice.

You might want to rethink this process. I did PPF on the hood, front bumper, headlights, fog lights, mirrors and pillars. IMO these are the areas most likely to be affected by rocks and debris. I also did the ceramic coating-Crystal Serum. The PPF either comes with a coating or the coating can be applied to the PPF. You have to recoat the PPF every 2 years. The cost for all of this was $2650. This would be my recommendation.

[shadab.ashraf56]

Originally Posted by floridaman100

You might want to rethink this process. I did PPF on the hood, front bumper, headlights, fog lights, mirrors and pillars. IMO these are the areas most likely to be affected by rocks and debris. I also did the ceramic coating-Crystal Serum. The PPF either comes with a coating or the coating can be applied to the PPF. You have to recoat the PPF every 2 years. The cost for all of this was $2650. This would be my recommendation.

I am going with full front ppf with suntek reaction and xpel fusion plus ceramic on rest of the body and wheels. I have an appointment next week but i am still confused after reading that ceramic is no protection again swirls what is the point of ceramic ? Is it just about the gloss and water beading properties. I would want swirl protection from my hand washes

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by shadab.ashraf56

I am going with full front ppf with suntek reaction and xpel fusion plus ceramic on rest of the body and wheels. I have an appointment next week but i am still confused after reading that ceramic is no protection again swirls what is the point of ceramic ? Is it just about the gloss and water beading properties. I would want swirl protection from my hand washes

I would think it would have to offer some being it is a hard coating but have read no.
Here is a blog listing some benefits as well as what it doesn't do. https://www.vive-houston.com/blog/ce...g-does-it-work

TLDR;
Benefits:
Protection from Harmful UV Rays
Protection from Chemical Stains
Hydrophobic Nature, Ease of Cleaning
Candy-Like Gloss

Doesn't Do:
Protection from All Types of Scratches and Swirl Marks
Protection from Water Spotting
Stop the Need for Car Wash

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by shadab.ashraf56

...that ceramic is no protection again swirls what is the point of ceramic ? Is it just about the gloss and water beading properties. I would want swirl protection from my hand washes

differences and similarities

[shadab.ashraf56]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

differences and similarities

Thanks, your responses are always very informative i may bite the bullet on full ppf when i am dropping the vehicle next week.

[Chapel Hill]

Originally Posted by shadab.ashraf56

Thanks, your responses are always very informative i may bite the bullet on full ppf when i am dropping the vehicle next week.

I just got my new X5 M50i fully wrapped. Looks great. It's expensive, but to me it's worth not having to cringe every time I hear a rock kick up and hit the car.

[Chapel Hill]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

differences and similarities

Nice graphic. I think that PPF with a layer of ceramic coating over the top of it is the way to go ...

[scottomfg]

Just wanted to offer an alternative opinion here. PPF and ceramic are both a waste of money in terms of resale. The cost is immense and having some swirls and rock chips simply won't drop your resale by the many thousands of dollars you spend on PPF and ceramic. We are hardcore enthusiasts here on the forum but *most* buyers of four-year-old X5s are not.

The kind of rock chips the PPF prevents and the finish protection that ceramic gives simply won't make any difference in the car's value in that type of marketplace, except for someone really trying to milk that absolute maximum amount from the sale, who is willing to wait months for the exact right buyer willing to pay more for a car at 99% condition as opposed to 95%. And even then it won't be worth $3k-$4k more than otherwise.

BUT, like some have said, PPF gives them peace of mind, and if that's the case then, sure, go for it. (I pass on PPF.) And me, personally, I enjoy detailing my car and keeping it nice with frequent hand washes, so a ceramic coating is worth it for me for the ease of cleaning and the paint correction that comes with getting a coating.

I just see a lot of people acting like PPF is just something you *have* to do these days, and I think that is plainly wrong. I've never PPF'd a car and also have never regretted it.