[wolverine13]

I just got a 2024 BMW x5 xDrive 50e. I have a nema 14-50 outlet and I can't get the right adaptor to work with my Flexible Fast Charger (Type 6). I got an adaptor - part # 61-90-5-A13-A61 and it does not fit. Also, the light is Yellow with a Red exclamation.

At this point I don't know if I need a different 14-50 adaptor or a different Flexible Fast Charger.

What part number do I need to get? I live in the US.

Also, once I get the right part and I can use the 14-50, do I need to change the setting on the car for the higher voltage?

[cdhowell]

Originally Posted by wolverine13

I just got a 2024 BMW x5 xDrive 50e. I have a nema 14-50 outlet and I can't get the right adaptor to work with my Flexible Fast Charger (Type 6). I got an adaptor - part # 61-90-5-A13-A61 and it does not fit. Also, the light is Yellow with a Red exclamation.

At this point I don't know if I need a different 14-50 adaptor or a different Flexible Fast Charger.

What part number do I need to get? I live in the US.

Also, once I get the right part and I can use the 14-50, do I need to change the setting on the car for the higher voltage?

2024 is a generation 2 charger. So you need a gen 2 NEMA adapter as well.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by wolverine13

I just got a 2024 BMW x5 xDrive 50e. I have a nema 14-50 outlet and I can't get the right adaptor to work with my Flexible Fast Charger (Type 6). I got an adaptor - part # 61-90-5-A13-A61 and it does not fit. Also, the light is Yellow with a Red exclamation.

At this point I don't know if I need a different 14-50 adaptor or a different Flexible Fast Charger.

What part number do I need to get? I live in the US.

Also, once I get the right part and I can use the 14-50, do I need to change the setting on the car for the higher voltage?

The X5 50e comes with the new version 2 of the Flexible Fast Charger, the adapters for the previous version of the charger are NOT compatible with Flexible Fast Charger 2.0.

The part you listed is for the 1.0 charger. Go to your parts department and have them use your VIN to look up the correct part number and order the correct 14-50 adapter.

You'll need to possibly change the A/C limit on charging to whatever your outlet can handle without tripping the breaker.

[wolverine13]

Thank you so much. I tried searching for the right adopter online but I will take your advice and talk to the parts department.

[wolverine13]

I think I found the right part - if someone knows different please let me know

Adapter Charging Cable (NEMA 14-50) - BMW (61-44-8-490-525)

[calbears]

Originally Posted by wolverine13

I think I found the right part - if someone knows different please let me know

Adapter Charging Cable (NEMA 14-50) - BMW (61-44-8-490-525)

appears to be correct, but double check with your parts department and they'll verify with the VIN

[jad03060]

Assuming your electrical circuit is built for a 50A branch, you can set your X5 to 32A inputs...just like you can plug a cellphone charger into a 15A circuit, you can plug your FFS into one that can handle more than it wants, and the same thing with any PHEV or EV. As long as everything's working properly, the vehicle will never try to pull more power than the EVSE says it has, and if the circuit for the EVSE is proper, while it can support up to 40A (which it will tell any vehicle attached), the vehicle will understand that, and as long as it won't exceed that value, it will just use what it wants unless the EVSE tells the vehicle it can't supply that much, and the vehicle will respond. IOW, there's no reason to lower the X5's internal limit unless the EVSE is on a shared circuit, and that load, combined with something else, might overload the circuit (but not the EVSE). HOpefully, that makes sense. The charging circuit is IN the vehicle...the EVSE is a semismart power cord. Using the different cord adapters on the FFS programs the EVSE to match it's output with the input, thus, it limits the level 1 input to 10A rather than 40A (it could have been 12A, but in the USA, that garage circuit is often shared with a garage door opener, some lights, and maybe an additional receptacle that you might plug in a power tool, vacuum cleaner, etc., ad overload the circuit). Code requires the derating of a circuit to NGT 80% when it can be on for extended times, thus the 10/12A on a 15A circuit, or the 40A on the 50A circuit.

[walketed]

Originally Posted by wolverine13

I just got a 2024 BMW x5 xDrive 50e. I have a nema 14-50 outlet and I can't get the right adaptor to work with my Flexible Fast Charger (Type 6). I got an adaptor - part # 61-90-5-A13-A61 and it does not fit. Also, the light is Yellow with a Red exclamation.

At this point I don't know if I need a different 14-50 adaptor or a different Flexible Fast Charger.

What part number do I need to get? I live in the US.

Also, once I get the right part and I can use the 14-50, do I need to change the setting on the car for the higher voltage?

Plenty of threads on this topic: https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2012523

[xwjjjw]

Hi guys, I just got an X5 50e last month. Its flexible fast charger adapter looks like this:


How can I tell if this is a 1.0 adapter or a 2.0 one? From other posts, it seems that new 50e comes with a 2.0 one?

In addition, I have one NEMA 5-15 cable with it. I am planning to install one NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Should I buy a new cable in this model (61-44-8-490-525), assuming the adapter is a 2.0 one?
https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...50-61448490525

[X5Knox]

Yes , that's a 2.0 charger .
I purchased my adapter here and it works great . Less then 3 hours to charging to 100% now

https://parts.bmwoforlandpark.com/p/...448490525.html

[Georgetheowl]

You just need one of this

https://www.amazon.ca/EZISOE-110V-24...9a9930752&th=1

[xwjjjw]

Originally Posted by X5Knox

Yes , that's a 2.0 charger .
I purchased my adapter here and it works great . Less then 3 hours to charging to 100% now

https://parts.bmwoforlandpark.com/p/...448490525.html

I think the link you posted is for the combo of adapter and cable. Can I just buy the cable only? I think my current adapter fits 240V already and don't need another adapter.

[X5Knox]

Originally Posted by xwjjjw

I think the link you posted is for the combo of adapter and cable. Can I just buy the cable only? I think my current adapter fits 240V already and don't need another adapter.

No ,It's for the cable adapter only , that's what you need , price is $183.26.
I just looked , it's the same cable you posted that link to

[X5Knox]

Originally Posted by Georgetheowl

You just need one of this

https://www.amazon.ca/EZISOE-110V-24...9a9930752&th=1

No need to spend extra money buying whole new level 2 charger . 50E comes standard with 2.0 flexible charger. All he needs is the short level 2 nema 14-50 adapter cable that's under $200

[xwjjjw]

Originally Posted by X5Knox

No ,It's for the cable adapter only , that's what you need , price is $183.26.
I just looked , it's the same cable you posted that link to

Got it! Thanks!

[jad03060]

FWIW, IMHO, if you'll be moving your EVSE so will need to plug and unplug it from the wall, you need to be conscious of maintaining a viable socket. More than a few people have run into problems with the typical socket their electrician wired in for them, avoiding the higher quality one that should work longer without issues. The one often used is plastic, costs in the $20 range. One that will last longer without breaking down and potentially melting, is more like $120 and is made of Bakelite, which can handle the heat from the extended times the EVSE may be on. That type of plug is often used on a stove or drier, that typically doesn't run continuously, as their heating elements will be cycling on/off, limiting the heat buildup. But, an EVSE will run continuously, without turning off for potentially hours, and heat buildup then becomes an issue.

My preference on any EVSE installation is to hardwire the thing...one less connection and less likely to develop problems.

The spring tension on the socket will be degraded by the heating/cooling and also by the insertion/removal of the plug. Just be aware of that. If it isn't stiff to insert the plug, replace the socket.

[Georgetheowl]

Originally Posted by X5Knox

No need to spend extra money buying whole new level 2 charger . 50E comes standard with 2.0 flexible charger. All he needs is the short level 2 nema 14-50 adapter cable that's under $200

Then this will do
https://www.amazon.ca/ONETAK-Welding...56&sr=8-8&th=1

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by Georgetheowl

Then this will do
https://www.amazon.ca/ONETAK-Welding...56&sr=8-8&th=1

Unfortunately, no, it won't. The BMW adapter cable is hard-coded to program the EVSE to report the required pilot signal that tells the vehicle how much the maximum current it can pull. Using the US 120vac (level 1) plug in the EVSE will still be reporting that it has 10A available. Now, you'd still probably double the power as power=volts*amps, so if you double the voltage, you'd double the power, but still less than a third of what the 50e can accept. I don't think putting 240vac into it would damage it with the 120vac cable adapter, but I'm not positive. If they tied the neutral internally to ground, you'd fry it.

To reprogram the FFC, you need their specific adapter cord. Depending on where in the world, there are probably at least a dozen different one to account for the national plug, and power situation. Right now, the USA seems to maybe get three...the one from the factory is 10A/120vac, or 40A/240vac. Rumor has it that there's a 16A/120vac cord (there was for the version1), but it has not been confirmed that they made one for the version 2.

[Georgetheowl]

Originally Posted by jad03060

Unfortunately, no, it won't. The BMW adapter cable is hard-coded to program the EVSE to report the required pilot signal that tells the vehicle how much the maximum current it can pull. Using the US 120vac (level 1) plug in the EVSE will still be reporting that it has 10A available. Now, you'd still probably double the power as power=volts*amps, so if you double the voltage, you'd double the power, but still less than a third of what the 50e can accept. I don't think putting 240vac into it would damage it with the 120vac cable adapter, but I'm not positive. If they tied the neutral internally to ground, you'd fry it.

To reprogram the FFC, you need their specific adapter cord. Depending on where in the world, there are probably at least a dozen different one to account for the national plug, and power situation. Right now, the USA seems to maybe get three...the one from the factory is 10A/120vac, or 40A/240vac. Rumor has it that there's a 16A/120vac cord (there was for the version1), but it has not been confirmed that they made one for the version 2.

Hey buddy, what I posted is a 14-50 to 6-50 converter, both for 240V L2 charging. A lot of home plugs come with a 6-50 socket but most L2 chargers are on 14-50. It has nothing to do with 120V/10A or 16A. There are tons of 120V/16A chargers on the market and they all work with 45E/50E.

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by Georgetheowl

Hey buddy, what I posted is a 14-50 to 6-50 converter, both for 240V L2 charging. A lot of home plugs come with a 6-50 socket but most L2 chargers are on 14-50. It has nothing to do with 120V/10A or 16A. There are tons of 120V/16A chargers on the market and they all work with 45E/50E.

one reviewer said it worked with their L2, but another reviewer said it damaged their $600 charger. 50/50 odds ain't good. i wouldn't use one; not worth the risk to property or life

still, you've got it backwards. if the homes have 6-50 outlets, they'll need a 14-50 female receptacle to 6-50 male plug adapter, not a 6-50 female receptacle to 14-50 male plug adapter which you linked.

[Georgetheowl]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

one reviewer said it worked with their L2, but another reviewer said it damaged their $600 charger. 50/50 odds ain't good. i wouldn't use one; not worth the risk to property or life

still, you've got it backwards. if the homes have 6-50 outlets, they'll need a 14-50 female receptacle to 6-50 male plug adapter, not a 6-50 female receptacle to 14-50 male plug adapter which you linked.

hail to your keen observations, this is the right one!
https://www.amazon.ca/Compact-Adapte...40&sr=8-7&th=1

I purchase 3 of 14-50 L2 chargers installed at 3 different locations, 2 of them have 6-50 plus so I need to convert them, none of them failed on me so far.

[jad03060]

Compared to an EV, the PHEV doesn't have that large of a battery, and its maximum charge rate isn't huge either. But, a bigger battery, or a heavier draw onboard charger would create more heat in any socket, so the odds of problems goes up as the duration of the charge and the rate of the charge increases. The odds are, your next PHEV or EV will have a larger battery, and the likelihood of problems will increase.

One thing that should be done during an installation is to actually torque the connections to specifications, otherwise, over time through heating/cooling cycles during use, the screws can loosen, adding resistance, and creating heat that can literally melt some sockets or burn up the wiring. IOW, it depends on how long it's been in use, whether you'll start to see issues. If everything was done properly, you may never see any, but a hard-wired install has one less connection that could be wrong.

Another side effect of a poor connection is that the heat generated is energy you're not getting to put into the vehicle that you're paying for, but it's relatively minor.

My simple Clipper Creek unit draws about 2-3W while idling...a smarter one with a processor to maintain a wireless link and a bigger display will draw more. Some people unplug things when not in use...the power costs aren't that high that I do that very often, but it still does cost something. I'm more concerned with that extra plug overheating, so I had mine hard-wired.