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      08-20-2021, 12:55 PM   #1
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Braking - Coming to a complete stop

I really like how the car brakes on freeway/high speed but I'm not sure if it's me/my car, I always have this abrupt stop when approaching to a full stop from a slow speed. No matter how soft I break, I always get this feel when the car completely stops. Anyone else experiences the same? Is this a normal behavior? Anything I can do to eliminate/reduce this feel?
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      08-20-2021, 01:11 PM   #2
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is Auto Hold enabled? if so, that's the parking brake engaging.

if not, I recall an old thread about this but can't remember the actual issue
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      08-20-2021, 01:27 PM   #3
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Do you have MSport brakes? They can grab more than standard. Going back and forth between the X5 and M340i I have to use different pedal pressure and timing.
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I notice it on my X6 too. Auto Hold is not on and I just have the standard non-Msport brakes.
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      08-20-2021, 01:39 PM   #5
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I find I have to modulate the pedal a bit on my M sport brakes to gently stop.
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      08-20-2021, 01:55 PM   #6
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Same, it just took me awhile to get used to.
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      08-20-2021, 02:06 PM   #7
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I have Msport brakes, and I find gentle is the answer.
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      08-20-2021, 03:03 PM   #8
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It took a while for me to adjust my driving style on my M50i to not take excessive G’s at startup and not to have “grabby” brakes at stoplights!
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      08-20-2021, 03:06 PM   #9
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It took a while for me to adjust my driving style on my M50i to not take excessive G’s at startup and not to have “grabby” brakes at stoplights!
Totally with you on that! The M50i is a BEAST and it has to be tamed
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      08-20-2021, 03:20 PM   #10
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So it's not just me/my G05... I have std brake and Auto Hold off. I can tell you... I have one of the lightest/most sensitive feet. It's not what I want but I can deal with it. It's the passenger. "Why did you brake so rough?"

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      08-20-2021, 04:21 PM   #11
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So it's not just me/my G05... I have std brake and Auto Hold off. I can tell you... I have one of the lightest/most sensitive feet. It's not what I want but I can deal with it. It's the passenger. "Why did you brake so rough?"
Not sure we can conclude that. I have the standard brakes and they are very smooth. There is no grabbing or sudden stopping like with the MSport brakes. If it continues you may want to mention it when you take it in for an oil change.
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      08-20-2021, 06:32 PM   #12
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So it's not just me/my G05... I have std brake and Auto Hold off. I can tell you... I have one of the lightest/most sensitive feet. It's not what I want but I can deal with it. It's the passenger. "Why did you brake so rough?"
I am sorry to hear that.

I have to say that my experience has been the same as TurtleBoy: I have found the non-M brakes of my 45e to be very sensitive but smooth in braking at low speeds and extremely powerful and precise when braking at highway speeds.

Perhaps you should have them checked by the dealer if not too far from where you are? I totally understand the annoyance and it is something that should be addressed.
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      08-20-2021, 06:34 PM   #13
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With M brakes, you literally only need to press it like 1% to fully stop when slowing down gently.
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      08-20-2021, 07:26 PM   #14
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So it's not just me/my G05... I have std brake and Auto Hold off. I can tell you... I have one of the lightest/most sensitive feet. It's not what I want but I can deal with it. It's the passenger. "Why did you brake so rough?"
Try lifting off the brake slightly just before you come to the full stop. Mr Briganza, my HS Drivers Ed teacher taught me that in 1980.

And ditch your passengers. They bitch alot.
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Try lifting off the brake slightly just before you come to the full stop. Mr Briganza, my HS Drivers Ed teacher taught me that in 1980.
I fully agree: that's what I was taught in the Eighties too and I still do it (when circumstances permit) and still find it effective for smoothly bringing the car to a stop.
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I fully agree: that's what I was taught in the Eighties too and I still do it (when circumstances permit) and still find it effective for smoothly bringing the car to a stop.
That’s how my driving instructor taught me to brake and I’ve been doing it instinctively for the last 20 years. That’s pretty much the only way to brake smoothly.

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Try lifting off the brake slightly just before you come to the full stop. Mr Briganza, my HS Drivers Ed teacher taught me that in 1980.

And ditch your passengers. They bitch alot.
Thats how I brake with my M brakes. But thats how how ive always braked so I dont notice grabby brakes.
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If the auto hold is calibrated properly, there’s no grabbing at final stop. If the brakes were not properly bedded in when new, they can be grabby, too.
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Try lifting off the brake slightly just before you come to the full stop. Mr Briganza, my HS Drivers Ed teacher taught me that in 1980.
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I fully agree: that's what I was taught in the Eighties too and I still do it (when circumstances permit) and still find it effective for smoothly bringing the car to a stop.
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That’s how my driving instructor taught me to break and I’ve been doing it instinctively for the last 20 years. That’s pretty much the only way to break smoothly.
Thanks for the replies. I read last night and was "anxious" to try out this morning on my way to work. I looked for red light opportunities. It certainly helps. Can't imagine having to "learn how to brake" after so many decades of driving. I guess it's never too late to learn.
I'm not sure if I described the experience correctly. The braking process is fine and smooth. It's just right at the moment when the vehicle completely stops. It feels so sudden almost like you hit a wall or similar to when PDC brake kicks in. Maybe I will test drive another G05 to see if the experience is the same before I have service check it.
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And ditch your passengers. They bitch alot.
I only have one "passenger". Should I ditch too? They do, don't they?
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I honestly can't believe this is even a topic for discussion lmao

First world problem I suppose
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      08-21-2021, 11:38 AM   #21
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Thanks for the replies. I read last night and was "anxious" to try out this morning on my way to work. I looked for red light opportunities. It certainly helps. Can't imagine having to "learn how to brake" after so many decades of driving. I guess it's never too late to learn.
I'm not sure if I described the experience correctly. The braking process is fine and smooth. It's just right at the moment when the vehicle completely stops. It feels so sudden almost like you hit a wall or similar to when PDC brake kicks in. Maybe I will test drive another G05 to see if the experience is the same before I have service check it.

I only have one "passenger". Should I ditch too? They do, don't they?
I thought I read in the other thread you had a back seat passenger complaining about a harsh ride. Maybe it wasn’t you. Regardless, passengers are to be seen and not heard.
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I honestly can't believe this is even a topic for discussion lmao

First world problem I suppose
Well you know... people complain about the headlights and compared it to lower profile car's.
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