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      06-26-2022, 06:45 AM   #23
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I had a loaner X5M for a week whilst they were replacing a tyre for me, great car but wouldn't want it as a daily drive, for me 40i is great all around car and does all I want in comfort even with the 22" wheels.
What dealer is giving a full M car as a loaner??
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      06-26-2022, 08:51 AM   #24
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I would like to de-badge my wife's M50i as well, but she won't hear of it. She says that all the X5's she sees are X40i's (which is true) so she likes being a woman driving a 523hp V8 grocery getter. I prefer the under the radar look of no badges.
Just curios on the de-badge thing - other than this forum banter (or a cleaner look), I don't think most people know or care about line designations. Thad said, if anything, I'd think some people may have their assumptions about BMW drivers etc.

To me, get the car you enjoy the most, does't stress you when writing a check, and provides the utility you need - very subjective, but it's your $$ and you are driving it !
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The opinion I am going to express is clearly in the minority in this thread. I buy (and have owned four X5's, current 45e) this type of vehicle to be first and foremost a practical car. One, that given its SUV status, handles reasonably well and has sufficient power for what it is: a utility (albeit high class) vehicle.

I have never understood the desire to try to make a 5,000 lb, sit high vehicle, into a sports car. For that, I have sports cars and/or sports sedans.

So personally I wouldn’t, and haven’t, had any interest in extra cost/on going maintenance hassles of V8 X5s.

But like I said, I’m in the minority here…

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I would like to de-badge my wife's M50i as well, but she won't hear of it. She says that all the X5's she sees are X40i's (which is true) so she likes being a woman driving a 523hp V8 grocery getter. I prefer the under the radar look of no badges.
Just curios on the de-badge thing - other than this forum banter (or a cleaner look), I don't think most people know or care about line designations. Thad said, if anything, I'd think some people may their assumptions about BMW drivers etc.

To me, get the car you enjoy the most, does't stress you when writing a check, and provides the utility you need - very subjective, but it's your $$ and you are driving it !
You're absolutely correct that 99.9% of people have no clue what the difference is between trim levels. I actually think that most people see the X5 as just another SUV. Those who pay slightly more attention see a BMW, and don't think beyond that. I would bet that 99% of people wouldn't know the difference between a 128i vs an M5CS, other then the fact that both are BMW's, and therefore have owners who light cigars with $100 bills.
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The opinion I am going to express is clearly in the minority in this thread. I buy (and have owned four X5's, current 45e) this type of vehicle to be first and foremost a practical car. One, that given its SUV status, handles reasonably well and has sufficient power for what it is: a utility (albeit high class) vehicle.

I have never understood the desire to try to make a 5,000 lb, sit high vehicle, into a sports car. For that, I have sports cars and/or sports sedans.

So personally I wouldn’t, and haven’t, had any interest in extra cost/on going maintenance hassles of V8 X5s.

But like I said, I’m in the minority here…
I am with you on this. But this is me being practical with amount of $ i have. Imagine if $150k is a disposable amount for someone, then why not X5MC. Luxury for me is practical for someone. Or vice versa, practical for me can also be luxury for other as well.
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The opinion I am going to express is clearly in the minority in this thread. I buy (and have owned four X5's, current 45e) this type of vehicle to be first and foremost a practical car. One, that given its SUV status, handles reasonably well and has sufficient power for what it is: a utility (albeit high class) vehicle.

I have never understood the desire to try to make a 5,000 lb, sit high vehicle, into a sports car. For that, I have sports cars and/or sports sedans.

So personally I wouldn’t, and haven’t, had any interest in extra cost/on going maintenance hassles of V8 X5s.

But like I said, I’m in the minority here…
+1. And at these gas prices? It's a hard sell these days.

Also, getting a SUV with 22" rims?

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m50 seems like an amazing compromise of utility and smiles-per-mile. If I lived in a warm climate without snow, the x5m would have on the radar.

The 40 and 45e are amazing, but if you are asking the question and are open to the V8, I'd get the m50
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Thanks everyone for the input and great food for thought. Will keep the boards posted with what I ultimately choose.

I'm sure I'd be happy with the 6 or the 8 - ultimately there are pros and cons on both sides as well all know, and as I don't keep cars for very long and don't mind switching out --- I'm less afraid of making the 'wrong choice'.
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What dealer is giving a full M car as a loaner??
UK, Not the dealer, part of warranty with BMW UK. They drove it 70 miles to deliver it to me and got the train back. It was the X5M Competition and was 3 weeks old.
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+1. And at these gas prices? It's a hard sell these days.

Also, getting a SUV with 22" rims?
The ride in the 40i with 22's is brilliant, try it before running it down.
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The opinion I am going to express is clearly in the minority in this thread. I buy (and have owned four X5's, current 45e) this type of vehicle to be first and foremost a practical car. One, that given its SUV status, handles reasonably well and has sufficient power for what it is: a utility (albeit high class) vehicle.

I have never understood the desire to try to make a 5,000 lb, sit high vehicle, into a sports car. For that, I have sports cars and/or sports sedans.

So personally I wouldn’t, and haven’t, had any interest in extra cost/on going maintenance hassles of V8 X5s.

But like I said, I’m in the minority here…
For me I just like it. I don’t think of my X5MC as a sports car but rather a sporty suv. I would have gone M5 but love the utility of an suv and ease of getting in and out. Keep in mind going the practical route with some luxury you can’t go wrong here.
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In a dilemma lately over all the versions 40,50 and 45e. Head is already spinning and I'm trying to make a decision shortly .

I've test driven 40i (with the 20' wheels) and m50i and like them both. 50i (with the 22' wheels), FELT heavier (by a wide margin), but was more FUN on the go pedal and looks sweet. 40i V6 is really smooth, and punchy as well. I like that the '22 50's come with the Harman Kardon still.

I've been looking for a 40i but a decent deal popped up on a pre owned 22 m50i speccd close to my liking.

Side note also - for the next year I will be working from home (so gas mileage OR wear and tear is not that much of a concern) - and this car will probably overall see its miles short trips around town and probably 70-80% of its use on family road trips (hence the reason for getting an X5). After the next 12 months, I might be driving to the office again, and can switch out the car again if I need to.

I hope the V8 won't be a waste as primary use is road trips - but on the OTHER hand, when I do take short trips around town - it will be more of a blast. Overall in the next 12 months I'm forecasting it might not see more than 4-5K miles TOPS on it.

Obviously price difference is ~20K between 40 and 50.

Any thoughts or suggestions? Do any 50i owners wish they got the 40?

I currently do not have a 'fun toy', so other thinking is 50i will take place of awesome DD and road trip space for the fam.

I was trying to stay away from the 22' sized wheels from the angle of road trips (and more tire noise and less cushion), but maybe they are fine as well.

Probably just overthinking all of this, and will be happy with any of the versions.

Thanks for the input.
I would get the lighter 40i if it offers DHP for the driving dynamics. Otherwise, the car feels wobbly (disappointed). But DHP is not an option on 40i any more.

M50i will be more powerful but a lot heavier. Would not option it without DHP. The V8 growl is nice though.
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For me I just like it. I don’t think of my X5MC as a sports car but rather a sporty suv. I would have gone M5 but love the utility of an suv and ease of getting in and out. Keep in mind going the practical route with some luxury you can’t go wrong here.
Exactly, but a M5 is just a midsize sedan and isn’t a sports car either. These are high HP luxury vehicles in various forms and comfort levels.
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Like many people have already said, the only regret is that I didn't opted for the X5M Comp. The M50i still puts a smile on my face.
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I just went thru this whole ordeal after giving up on the 45e due to charging impracticality, not wanting to wait for build etc. I test drove a 50i and yes it's faster but I don't think your going to get out of a corner or go on a backroad any faster than you would in a 40i. It's a suv and it's heavy, it's just hard to say the 50 is worth it over the 40i for 98% of the use of the car. I felt I would be giddy about it for about 4 weeks, until I had to deal with additional gas and maintenance costs of the v8. Also, the v8 is not a car I would want to own out of warranty, so you might want to consider additional warranty. I have not had a bmw outside of this x5 since my '10 v12 760li so I have seen horrid repair bills from owning a large engine bmw. If the situation affords it, you are better off taking that money and buying another car for giggles. I have 2 door v8 car for giggles and keeping the suv as mostly a practical vehicle.

Also for anyone going m50i, imo just up the extra and the x5m unique body, m seats, proper chassis stiffening etc.
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40i/45e (mid 70s) => 50i (mid 90s) => X5M (mid 120s)

The swing from 40/45 to M is big, 70% more money. I still think people set out to get X5M won't bother with 40i/45e, or wise versa. Even from 50i to X5M, swing is another 30%. This is definitely a money topics. If affordability comfort level is the same between X5M is the same as 40i, everyone will buy X5M. But the fact is $50K isn't small, very few people can say that.
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If affordability comfort level is the same between X5M is the same as 40i, everyone will buy X5M. But the fact is $50K isn't small, very few people can say that.
I could have without a second thought financially bought the X5M instead of the 45e. But it never crossed my mind as I have zero need for what an X5M offers.

For me personally, and I stress me personally, the characteristics of the X5M has zero appeal irrespective of $s.

But then I own multiple cars to scratch different itches.

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40i/45e (mid 70s) => 50i (mid 90s) => X5M (mid 120s)

The swing from 40/45 to M is big, 70% more money. I still think people set out to get X5M won't bother with 40i/45e, or wise versa. Even from 50i to X5M, swing is another 30%. This is definitely a money topics. If affordability comfort level is the same between X5M is the same as 40i, everyone will buy X5M. But the fact is $50K isn't small, very few people can say that.
Mid 70s 40i is not going to be equipped like a mid 90s 50i. It would be more like mid 70s and mid 80s. My 40i came in just about 82, similar m50i equip would of been 92 aprox.
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Haven't driven a X5M but own a M50i and had a 40i as a loaner for 2 weeks. There is honestly not much comparison engine wise between the 40i and 50i. 50i had much more torque and pull from the 40. I honestly thought the 40i was a bit of a smoother ride than my 50i on 22" wheels though. Interior of the 50i with merino leather was far better than the 40i IMO. For a car where you want comfort only go for a 40i. Want to play? 50i. Need to have a lot of caffeine? get a x5m.
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If you want the thrills then sure get the 50i, but I'd recommend getting the 40i and also getting a proper non-SUV sports/M car instead.

I had a loaner M50i and whilst the power was great, overall it didn't really do it for me and I was still happy with my 40i.
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