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The release notes for the ISTA delivered dealer upgrades focus on what can go wrong with the upgrade, known issues that kind of thing. There are also feature bulletins issued that your dealer can choose to share with you but I do not believe are obliged to. Examples have been copied and pasted on this forum for 07/2020.x in some posts. |
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Seriously though, the biggest disappointment to me is the absence of release notes in almost all new releases, as @ifr already explained with better details.
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But that could change with information. Promise (and reality) of much improved auto lane change (that you highlighted) was the major push to get me to 11/2019.xx and it randomly happened to turn out that BMW did fix several of the other unbearable camera bugs in that release (undocumented fixes and fixes to bugs that many here argued were not bugs at all, by the way). Something like that might get me over the edge, but I suspect I am waiting to at least 11/2020.xx Here is something that would get me over: re-enable forward facing lane tracking assist when towing — absolutely no reason that is turned off and that's what I (and probably everyone) wants on long towing trips. Of course keep blind spot intervention and ALC off, but I can see no safety or tech limit to lane tracking.
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08-07-2020, 06:58 AM | #202 | |
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Ironically the later i-step releases changed the design of the auto-lane change for EU vehicles and we are stuck with the overly cautious 3 second to start moving system. I've 'fixed' that of course on my vehicle but yes i-step upgrades do change behaviours. Generally speaking, there are improvements across the cars, but we can't rule out a regional regulatory restriction that might lower the end-user experience. I agree with the towing SWA comments. Would love to have that enabled with the bikes racked on the towbar/hitch. I'm guessing its not enabled for 2 reasons: 1) the SWA works on the model of car and sets multiple parameters based on known stats, such as width, length, height, etc. With a vehicle in tow, it cannot guarantee the overall width and length of the vehicle and so the SWA may not function correctly. 2) SWA, amongst other systems, actually uses most/all(?) of the sensors/radars on the vehicle including the rear ones. It needs to know whats around the car at all times. With a tow hitched, it's blind at the rear. I guess this means there is probably not even a coding option to 'fix' it. |
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08-07-2020, 11:43 AM | #203 | |
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And 3 second delay on ALC!? Why even have the feature in the first place, ludicrous. That's a good example where having such an idiotic implementation does more credibility harm to the designers, engineers, brand, and industry than not having it at all.
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hi everybody, I have an August 2019 built G05 M50d from New Zealand with the 03/2020.58 software that makes a not-nice rattly noise at low revs (has been doing it since I got the car at 50km..now 2,300km). I tried another dealer's M50d (November built) with the 11/2019.70 software update (with 4,400 km) and it doesn't make any rattly noise (and a lot less noise as well to be honest even if mine has the double glazing...).
Does anyone have any experience that software updates can affect the engine noise of the car? does anyone know if it's possible to reverse a software update? or does someone know if the July update is available for the M50d...? thanks in advance. |
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Hi, My car came with software v03/2019, but after taking it to dealer to fix rear camera recall, software was updated to v07/2019. I read your post of release notes with some interest since my car is still on 07/2019. I do not have either the Dangerous Curves feature or Spotify App. Wonder if these were only for Europe?? Thanks
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Dangerous curve displays a message in HUD/CiC when nav detects one. I guess that will be dependant on the mapping data for the region it is being used on i.e. you may have that feature but there just isn't any mapping data for DC on the roads you use. Spotify is definitely disabled for some markets e.g. AUSY. Not sure about USA |
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So I still maintain that "BMW is not sufficiently organized to give its customers software release notes", regardless of what they may or may not publish 6-12 months after actual release.
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08-12-2020, 10:34 AM | #209 | |
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Why don't you check your own CA portal release notes and let's see if there are differences? |
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08-12-2020, 12:18 PM | #210 | |
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[SIZE="5"]Release Notes 19-11[/SIZE]
BMW Connected Music with Spotify® (new function) 19-07 Listen to your favorite songs, playlists and audiobooks easily on the go and use Spotify via BMW Connected Music, just as you do at home or on your smartphone. Log in using your personal Spotify Premium account information on your vehicle. In addition, you can control the music in the vehicle via Spotify Connect on your logged in smart device. BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant Widget (functional enhancement) 19-07 You now have the chance to learn even more about your BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant. This functional enhancement allows you display examples of commands that you can give your Personal Assistant. The display is regularly updated in short time intervals. Tap the widget on your BMW control display to go directly to the settings of the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant. You decide how extensive your widget should be. It is available in two control display sizes and you can activate it in the main menu. BMW Drive Recorder (preparation for in-store purchase) 19-07 Automatically or manually – the BMW Drive Recorder films your surroundings for up to 40 seconds. This allows you to document critical driving situations in road traffic without the need for further action. The BMW Drive Recorder also allows you to collect wonderful memories of especially beautiful routes at the press of a button. Integrated cameras mean that it is easy to shoot videos. Note: The Remote Software Upgrade does not include the BMW Drive Recorder as a function as such but allows compatible vehicles access to this function via purchase from the Connected Drive Store. Validity of the Remote Software Upgrade and Release Notes The new features and functional enhancements in this upgrade are effective only if your vehicle features the specific equipment features. Please refer to your vehicle's Integrated Operating Instructions, contact your Service Partner or the BMW ConnectedDrive hotline for information about your vehicle's equipment specifications. Functional updates and improved quality This Remote Software Upgrade updates existing functions to current technical standards and improves the quality. Information about previous versions Refer to the ConnectedDrive customer portal for any information about previous Remote Software Upgrade versions. Updates of the Integrated Operating Instructions in the vehicle Thanks to this Remote Software Upgrade, the Integrated Operating Instructions in the vehicle will feature the most up-to-date version. Important information about this upgrade
Specific notes for hybrid vehicles If you perform the Remote Software Upgrade during charging, the charging process will be interrupted and not automatically continued. Charging and climate control settings can be reset after the Remote Software Upgrade (e.g. charging settings to 6A instead of 16A). Once you have completed the upgrade, re-set your preferences in the relevant menus under Settings. We are looking forward to hearing your feedback on the BMW ConnectedDrive hotline to help us further improve our Remote Software Upgrade in the future. [SIZE="5"]Release Notes 19-07[/SIZE]
IMPORTANT INFORMATION: Park the vehicle in a safe place, in compliance with road safety regulations, before installation! The vehicle cannot be used for approx. 20 minutes during installation of the remote software upgrade. Make sure you park the vehicle in a safe place, in compliance with road safety regulations! BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant (additional personalization) In order to use all of the features of the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant, you must create a driver profile. Once you log in, you will be able to set your own personal activation word to interact with your BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant. This update allows you to adjust the behavior of the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant. Depending on who is in the vehicle and where you are going, you can decide how the Assistant behaves. You can choose whether incoming notifications are displayed normally, shown only to you, or hidden completely. You can see which setting is currently active by the notification icon in the in-car status bar. All services and settings for your BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant can now be accessed directly in its own menu. Would you like to know what else the BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant can do? Then check out the new video in the user manual in the vehicle. *BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant currently supports English Language for launch of this feature. Navigation improvements (extended function) The all-new "Fuel Price" map view visualizes fueling options for the customer's needs right on the map. Gas station locations along with their respective fuel prices are displayed. This way, it is possible to explore and choose the optimal gas station based on proximity, brand and price. Additionally, a detailed list of surrounding gas stations can be viewed by selecting "Gas stations search". When selecting "Place to stop", the user can search for further relevant Points of Interest categories. Parking Space Assistant (new function) Looking for parking near your destination? The Parking Space Assistant suggests free parking spaces in garages or on the street and guides you along the route with the highest probability of finding a parking spot. Parking Assistant for parallel parking (extended function) Parking in parking spaces parallel to the road is made easier for you with this extended function. Active Park Distance Control (extended function) When backing into a parking space, this improved feature will help you avoid collisions. There is now an additional brake intervention during the maneuvering process as soon as obstacles appear in the rear or side areas. Validity of the remote software upgrade and release notes The new functions and functional enhancements of this upgrade are only applicable if your vehicle is equipped with the necessary equipment. Please refer to your vehicle's Integrated Operating Instructions, contact your Service Partner or the BMW ConnectedDrive hotline for information about your vehicle's equipment specifications. Function updates and quality enhancements This Remote Software Upgrade enhances existing functions to meet current technical standards and improves their quality. Information about previous versions You can read information about all the previous versions of the remote software upgrade in the ConnectedDrive customer portal. Updating the on-board operating instructions in the vehicle With this remote software upgrade, the on-board operating instructions in the vehicle are updated to include up-to-date information. Special information about this upgrade
[SIZE="5"]Release Notes 19-03[/SIZE]
The vehicle will be unusable for approx. 20 minutes during installation of the Remote Software Upgrade. Make sure the vehicle is parked in a safe place, in compliance with road safety regulations. It will NOT be drivable during the upgrade. BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant (New Function) The BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant is your on-board personal assistant. Start by activating the assistant with the command "Hey BMW." You can also name it yourself by simply saying "Hey BMW, change the activation word."
*BMW Intelligent Personal Assistant currently only supports English language for launch of this feature. Active Cruise Control with Stop&Go function (enhancement) This cruise system enables you to keep a proper distance from the vehicle in front by constantly monitoring and adapting to its speed. These enhancements allow for more dynamic acceleration of your vehicle after stopping. Lane Departure Warning with Steering intervention (enhancements) This function prevents unintentional lane departure by providing steering intervention. This improved version provides a higher level of comfort. Parking Assistant (enhancements) Thanks to this functional enhancement, parking in spaces in parallel and perpendicular to the road will become easier, as will leaving parking spaces in parallel to the road. Validity of the Remote Software Upgrade and release notes You will only be able to use the new functions and enhancements provided by this upgrade if your vehicle is equipped with the appropriate features. You can obtain information regarding the options of your particular vehicle by consulting the on-board owner`s manual in iDrive or by contacting your BMW Service Retailer or the BMW Canada Customer Interaction Centre. Functional updates and improved quality This Remote Software Upgrade updates existing functions to meet the latest state-of-the-art technological standards and includes quality enhancements. Information about previous versions You can read information about all the previous versions of the Remote Software Upgrade in the ConnectedDrive customer portal. Updating the on-board owner`s manual in the vehicle With this Remote Software Upgrade, the on-board operating instructions in the vehicle are updated to include up-to-date information. Special information about this upgrade
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08-12-2020, 02:13 PM | #211 | |
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Where's the answer for downloading the release notes? Piss Poor web designers and no Quality Control measures put in place to prevent this type of crap! |
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The incomprehensible inability of BMW to hire people capable of producing a useful, informative web site is staggering. The only possible explanation is that BMW, and BMW NA in particular, feel that the more information the public has, the weaker their position as a company becomes, which is, of course, bollocks. Putting tons of technology into vehicles is wonderful; making it difficult or near impossible to find reliable information about that technology is malevolent and hopelessly counterproductive.
What annoys me more than the fact that BMW makes it so difficult to understand what they are doing with their features and software is that I have come to expect it to be this way. |
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Maybe that has something to do with the 19-07 references. Very confusing. However, it's a maturing technology and we have established that: - There ARE Release Notes - The RN are customised for different markets - The service is not fully baked So the complaints have gone from "There are no OTA updates" to "There are no Release Notes" to "The Release Notes are rubbish". What will you guys moan about if they nail the RN Fo the UK market the Release Notes are thorough, clear and 'mostly' accurate. At least in-line with most major software company releases, of which BMW is not. |
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Good release notes first and foremost exist, BMW has possibly reached the 50% mark there. Then they are accurate: 10-25% depending on market. Then they are timely: 0%. Then we get into guru territory and also report bugs fixed and functionalities changed, as well as highlight known unfixed bugs intended to be addressed: well below 0% if such a thing was possible. It's the stuff that builds credibility. BMW notes are fluff, even in the UK version and is utterly pathetic in US right now. I am not worried, plenty remains to be pissed about.
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Tesla? Worst rated brand for reliability in the UK, and we are the home of JLR! I'm impressed with what BMW have delivered in OTA and tech systems in general. Not perfect by any means, but they are headed in the right direction. |
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Fair enough, I am not holding my breath either. But getting back to what I believe started this segment of the perpetual discussion, I think we clearly established that there is zero formally and globally available information about what changed (to better or worse) in 07/2020.xx, as that was one of the underlying reasons I wasn't going to get updated arbitrarily — I still don't know what pile I am going to be stepping in, formally.
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So, formally, the rational decision decision for a risk-averse person would be not to install the update if you do not even know what the potential benefits are.
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Without coding, the only improvement that is relevant to me is DAP. It now tackles bends it never has before. There is AA, and Apple Maps in hud, but I don't use either. I've figured out that BMW probably plan on retrofitting Digital Key 1.5. There is an aftermarket FA modification that can be made if you know the right 4 digit code. I've activated it, and updated FASTA, but it's still not active in the CD app. I expect it will spring to life once BMW decide to officially support retrofits. Navigation is still 'dumb' routing wise compared to Google Maps and TomTom. The menu has been consolidated which is OK but not revolutionary. With coding, the Traffic Light Recognition is super cool but has a few bugs. Stops very occasionally for green lights. No obvious reason other than it seems to be colour blind. Can't complain as its not released yet. Emergency Lane you know about. No undertaking option sucks. Forgot I activated it and couldn't understand why I couldn't get past a middle lane muppet. That's been turned off! I can't be 100% on how much of the semi-auto driving features are activated via coding, but it's almost a different model car compared with what I bought last year. Highway exit assistant is buggy, but will be extremely useful when fully ready. No real issues to report. Everything else seems to work as before. |
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