08-23-2020, 05:23 PM | #46 |
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I'm more curious to know how perceptible the start-stop is for daily use. I absolutely hate start/stop in cars and when I found out (after placing my order) that BMW went to the mandatory 48V hybrid setup, I tried to change to an M50i but my dealer had no remaining allocations for those. I'm hoping this new system, with the electric assist, will at least be far less noticeable than the earlier implementations. I believe there is a possible design that I could tolerate but it really has to work flawlessly, for me.
Any feedback on the experience? A video would be awesome! (just sayin').
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08-23-2020, 05:33 PM | #47 |
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I just picked up my 2021 X40 yesterday and there is no button. I have gone through every menu (could have missed) and have not noticed the engine stopping. In my 2018 I turned it off with button as I hated it. I am calling genius tomorrow and I will let everyone know what they say.
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08-23-2020, 06:58 PM | #49 |
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I have a 19 and rarely notice the start/stop system. I had to tell just about everyone that was in the vehicle that the engine was shutting off and starting up because they didn't notice it either.
The engine stops immediately, it does not have to be an extended stop. It also is usually smart enough to not stop when you are at a stop sign. It will start up again when it sees the vehicle in front of you start moving or if you take your foot off the brake. I have not seen a need to turn it off but it is a personal thing. My brother also has an X5 and the start/stop bugs him but not his wife when she drives. |
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08-24-2020, 12:40 PM | #51 |
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Confirmed-the 2021 X5 removes the ability to turn off auto start/stop. This was relayed to me by the genius at the dealership. It was said it was removed due to "government regulations". It was recommended to set up an individual sport profile with all comfort settings except turning off auto start stop. This way you can drive in "comfort mode without auto start/stop. The downside is you have to select this every time as comfort is the default.
Hopefully the programmers can code something!! |
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08-24-2020, 01:00 PM | #52 |
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Consider yourself very lucky.
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08-24-2020, 03:07 PM | #53 |
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The only time I ever really notice mine is when it's very hot outside b/c you can feel the AC dip it's coolness level until the ASS kicks back on.
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I personally despise this feature with a vengeance. |
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I think it is likely removed to help meet emissions standards. With the 48v hybrid system it should be a much smoother auto start/stop experience and give better fuel economy. I guess time will tell.
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As for the "no reason", well, there's always a reason. Could be a change in their assessment of New York traffic, a change in your situation, a larger number of claims in your area, an increase in the amount of cars of your type being stolen, inflation, new taxes or fees, etc. etc. etc. The reason may not be good, but I'm sure its there. It's ALWAYS good to keep shopping around for new companies though, because they all do different calculations and all adjust premiums from time to time. Insurance: one of the greatest scams you're required to take part in. |
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When I had my F15, I could always control auto start/stop by applying light brake or push it all the way down. It was very easy, so I did not mind it too much so I did not find the need the code it off, I coded bunch of other stuff though.
Does G05 have the same type of full control over brakes where you can keep it lightly pressed at traffic light or intersection so X5 stops but does not turn off? I hate Auto Start/Stop because there has been multiple instances where I came to a stop, trying to turn left on 2-way road, rolling downhill, I would creep forward and turn when cars climb up slower. With Auto SS, sometimes I end up getting stuck there waiting for it to restart because it just decided to stop when I was rolling (this has been an issue with Q7's and some X5's in the past, actually stopping the engine before the vehicle comes to a complete stop) So dealer & manufacturer actually thinks this totally unsafe and possible dangerous function is too important to maintain reported fuel economy, and does not let the driver control their car completely. It's like telling me I cannot turn off auto wipers that sometimes unnecessarily starts wiping and causing smear/mud/freeze in the winter. At least we can still control those. "Switch to Sport mode" is not really a valid option, when I am on stop and go, Sport mode is way too jerky.
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There definitely is no waiting for the engine to start, it is immediate and in over 22k miles with it have never had a situation when the engine wasn't running when needed. As far as sport goes, I have never found it to be jerky but that could just be a matter if driving style. |
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When we bought our 2019 G05 two years ago, our genius said the ability to disable the Auto Start/Stop would be going away in a few years. Looks like that time is now.
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The logic behind ASS is too unpredictable from driver's point of view. How many times I slow down enough to the stop sign and just about to go that ASS decided to shut down the engine. As I press the accelerator pedal, it wakes up agsin within like 200ms.... Totally useless |
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08-25-2020, 10:57 AM | #64 |
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ASS is way to laggy for my performance oriented driving of my Ultimate Driving Machine.
If I wanted an Ultimate Emission Reduction Machine, I would buy a Tesla and then commence deluding myself that it contributes no emissions since electricity magically comes out of those little holes in the wall. Fortunately my 2020 M50i doesn't have this issue. But we are looking at a 2021 40i for my wife. |
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08-25-2020, 03:57 PM | #65 |
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I personally don’t mind the ASS system in my 40i and think overall it probably improves my mileage over the long run. The only times I turn it off are when I am a few cars behind a stop sign and I know I am only going to be stopping briefly if at all as each car goes through. Sometimes in stop and go traffic I’ll turn it off as well.
As others have mentioned you can feel and hear a dip in the AC when the engine shuts off but otherwise it is the smoothest stop / start I’ve felt as there is no noticeable jerk or vibration when the engine turns back on (unlike the Mercedes GLE 350 which is very noticeable). You can control the shutoff a bit... I’ve noticed that if I come to a very slow rolling stop it will sometimes not turn off, and if you are stopped and the engine is running you can hard press the break and the engine will usually cut off then. |
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