[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by X5 M50i '21

If my M50i comes in without ventilated seats, I'll be furious. I really hope that's just a rumor.

If you ordered them you will have them. It was just misinformation that they would be suddenly stopped.

Edit: I should note that ventilated seats are standard on the M50i so no need for ordering anything but the vehicle.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by X5 M50i '21

If my M50i comes in without ventilated seats, I'll be furious. I really hope that's just a rumor.

Though I would add five years ago I (and others) got a nice check from BMWNA because a feature we ordered, and that was in the literature, was not on our vehicles when delivered. It was also rumored at the time as no longer offered and declared wrong until our cars started showing up without it.

These things do happen ...

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Though I would add five years ago I (and others) got a nice check from BMWNA because a feature we ordered, and that was in the literature, was not on our vehicles when delivered. It was also rumored at the time as no longer be offered and declared wrong until our cars started showing up without it.

These things do happen ...

I'm sure they do but in this case it seems the false information was based on differences in the Luxury Seating packages between the pricing guide and the Configurator early in the MY. The poster was the only person here to be told this by their dealer and others specifically asked their dealer about it and was told there was no problems with the ventilated seats.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

differences in the Luxury Seating packages between the pricing guide and the Configurator early in the MY. The poster was the only person here to be told this by their dealer and others specifically asked their dealer about it and was told there was no problems with the ventilated seats.

Again, though, all of that was exactly the same as our scenario with maybe one difference: in our case it was BMWNA -> BMW AG Regensburg whereas in this case it's BMWNA -> BMWNA Spartanburg which obviously BMWNA owns/operates. (is that meaningful? dunno ...)

It seems where the problems happen (and happened in our case) are the country-specific config communications between the importer and the factory; Any errors cascade into the docs/websites, the dealers really have no idea, and the question becomes if the errors are caught in time before cars start down the line. (in our case they originally thought it was just a documentation error)

It's not a big deal if the cars are dealer orders (and of course we don't find out about those), but if they're priority 1s then customers end up finding out.

In this case, hopefully you're right and it ends up being a paperwork screwup vs something that made it to the factory. (BMWNA would know for sure)

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

In this case, hopefully you're right and it ends up being a paperwork screwup vs something that made it to the factory.

Please explain, what is the screwup you are referring to? There has been absolutely zero instances of a vehicle being built or delivered without ventilated seats when they should have been there. The OP posted that back in August and no one, anywhere, at any time has been told anything close to that. It is nothing, please do not try to rile people up just for the sake of doing so.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

please do not try to rile people up just for the sake of doing so.

sometimes turt, you really are too much! You need to get a job with BMWNA so you can get paid for all of the advocating you do on their behalf. Reach out to Scott and he can probably hook you up.

In the meantime, here's the point:
BMW occasionally fucks up car orders; It's happened to me and other forum members ... because, as it turn out, BMW isn't perfect hard for you to accept, I know. Here's the better part: BMW has made it right with all of us AFAIK.

So the message for people is, shit happens, don't expect perfection because companies aren't perfect, though if BMW does make a mistake, they'll make it right, at least they have for me and others.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

sometimes turt, you are really too much! You need to get a job with BMWNA so you can get paid for all of the advocating you do on their behalf. Reach out to Scott and he can probably hook you up.

In the meantime, here's the point:
BMW occasionally fucks up car orders; It's happened to me and other forum members ... because, as it turn out, BMW isn't perfect hard for you to accept, I know. Here's the better part: BMW has made it right with all of us AFAIK.

So the message for people is, shit happens, don't expect perfection because companies aren't perfect, though if BMW does make a mistake, they'll make it right, at least they did for me and others.

As I said many posts ago they definitely do but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. It can theoretically happen with any option or feature at any time but in response to the post that started this discussion there is no additional need to worry about that happening.

I never understand how looking at a situation logically and factually is taken for advocation of a particular stance. Of course that always seems to done by folks who either don't understand the topic or are posting out of emotion.

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

As I said many posts ago they definitely do

Then you shouldn't be saying shit like

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

If you ordered them you will have them.

You don't know that, and shit happens. Hopefully everything works out, sometimes it doesn't, better to let people know if doesn't BMW will make it right.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by GrussGott

Then you shouldn't be saying shit like You don't know that, and shit happens. Hopefully everything works out, sometimes it doesn't, better to let people know if doesn't BMW will make it right.

Never mind, I really thought you were just confused. Turns out you are a troll trying to rile people up. I’m done with your childish postings and attempts to get people going. You obviously don’t have the maturity to follow a simple discussion without interjecting a load of crap in an effort to confuse and worry folks. I’m sure others have picked up on your nonsense also so hopefully being ignored will cause you to fade back into the woodwork so the adults can have a discussion.

As per your usual MO, you can gladly come back with the last word to make yourself feel better.

[jad03060]

When I ordered mine at the end of June 2020, it was delayed because the seats were backordered (ventilated). It may have been just the color. Anyway, it arrived in early September with them as ordered after a delay. During that time, the packages were slightly shuffled.

[videoman535i]

Pot.
Kettle.
Black.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by JayPichardo

- Kiss the 50i bye-bye, 40i, and M50i only

- Satellite radio is now standard

- Wireless Android Auto is now standard.

- The convenience package now includes remote start. (standard on M50i)

- The premium package now includes HK sound

- M Sport brakes can be ordered in blue or red

- The luxury seating package no longer adds massage function and must be added separately.

- carbon Fiber trim now available on M50i

- Bowers & Wilkins only available on M50i

- Executive package includes glass controls, no longer a stand-alone option.

Jay, did BMW send you a list of things they deleted for the 2021 model year X5 and X5M? Thanks

[codex57]

I'm still a bit salty the glass controls took away the volume knob. I mean, in a way, I guess it makes sense to only have the glass controls in that one gear area. I think it's more the knowing that older models have it. At least I can buy it after market and shouldn't be too hard to install.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Jay, did BMW send you a list of things they deleted for the 2021 model year X5 and X5M? Thanks

Anything??

[Ludovik]

The new 2020 BMW x5M crossover is similar to the old 2008 that I had, I really liked it. Let's see what it will be like in 2021. I have been driving BMW cars for many years, but I already want to drive some other car. I want to choose a new jeep cars for myself. Many of my friends have recommended it to me, as this car is very powerful and reliable. The price is not very high, only its design is very different from BMW.

[CaliBimmer007]

I think the 45e only allows for Blue M Sport caliper covers, at least that's how it was when I ordered mine

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Anything??

So I guess that BMW (at least in the US) doesn't notify dealerships about the changes/deletions that they make to their vehicles every year?

[kezzuki]

I believe there is also the addition of the mild hybrid system (48V motor? i think)

[eholtz]

Originally Posted by JayPichardo

- Kiss the 50i bye-bye, 40i, and M50i only

- Satellite radio is now standard

- Wireless Android Auto is now standard.

- The convenience package now includes remote start. (standard on M50i)

- The premium package now includes HK sound

- M Sport brakes can be ordered in blue or red

- The luxury seating package no longer adds massage function and must be added separately.

- carbon Fiber trim now available on M50i

- Bowers & Wilkins only available on M50i

- Executive package includes glass controls, no longer a stand-alone option.

-Auto Start Stop button is gone. Stupid decision makes my car shudder at every light.
-Soft close doors are gone except M50i.
-Heated and Cool cupholders are gone.
-Waze is gone from apps

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by eholtz

-Auto Start Stop button is gone. Stupid decision makes my car shudder at every light.
-Soft close doors are gone except M50i.
-Heated and Cool cupholders are gone.
-Waze is gone from apps

Soft close doors are not available on the M50i. Only in the X5M and X6M.

[IFlyX5]

Originally Posted by eholtz

-Auto Start Stop button is gone.

Only in the 40i. It's still there in the M50i

[alewifebp]

And Waze is not gone on my build at least. I just used it the other day.

I will say compared to the auto start stop in my 2018 540, auto start stop does act more intelligently. It seems to sense when the the car in front of you moves and starts, plus green lights. It hasn't been 100% of the time, but many times.