Remote Control Parking

2REP · 12-01-2019, 03:27 PM

I have the BMW display key as part of the innovation package and it has (according to the picture) the button on the top right that is needed to initiate Remote Control Parking. Does this mean this feature is enabled by default or can I activate it through coding? Or is this again something that is country specific?

Pictor · 12-01-2019, 07:13 PM

I haven't seen any mention of remote control parking since the 7 and 5 series. I love it on my M550i for those few times where someone jammed me in a parking space or when I returned to find my car parked in a puddle of water after a bit of rain.

We ordered our 2020 X5 yesterday and if RC parking is available then I'll be super excited but I suspect BMW has abandoned it - for now.

homerrr · 12-01-2019, 07:29 PM

It must be hidden away in the ECUs somewhere...

ifr · 12-02-2019, 05:37 AM

Not a supported option for an X5.

The code is 5DV and cannot be added to FA.

There are a number codes available across a few ECU's but I doubt they will work.

2REP · 12-02-2019, 05:57 AM

They advertise it on the BMW.BE website as a feature on some models, and since the X5 has so much technology on board I assumed it would also be available for it.

I'm sure the car has the hardware on board so I hope we can unlock it through coding.

ifr · 12-02-2019, 05:59 AM

If you can't add it to the FA, I wouldn't even go near it in coding.

2REP · 12-02-2019, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ifr

Not a supported option for an X5.

The code is 5DV and cannot be added to FA.

There are a number codes available across a few ECU's but I doubt they will work.

Thanks for clarifying.. I was typing while you replied.

ifr · 12-02-2019, 06:10 AM

You could try it, but its probably doomed to failure.

I'd start by generating the codes needed for a supported model such as the 5 series. There is no FA support and therefore no boolean logic to identify any G05 specific codes so it will almost certainly fail:
- not supported in the firmware/i-step
- never coded or tested by BMW for this model
- could even be dangerous. The G05 is a big vehicle, can most people even fully see where they are reversing it from outside the car?

randybobandy · 12-02-2019, 08:17 AM

You're a brave soul if you try coding it. I would be worried about insurance claims or other liabilities if something goes wrong.

LexxM3 · 12-02-2019, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by randybobandy

You're a brave soul if you try coding it. I would be worried about insurance claims or other liabilities if something goes wrong.

"Brave" would only apply when there is NO RISK to OTHERS' wellbeing and property, only to yours. Entirely other words come to mind for this. While it's not impossible to hack around this safely, very few have the capability and mental discipline to do so (I include myself somewhere in the grey zone for this). The impact of stupid hacking is that all hacking is terminated in society i.e. "this is why we can't have nice things".

randybobandy · 12-02-2019, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LexxM3

"Brave" would only apply when there is NO RISK to OTHERS' wellbeing and property, only to yours. Entirely other words come to mind for this. While it's not impossible to hack around this safely, very few have the capability and mental discipline to do so (I include myself somewhere in the grey zone for this). The impact of stupid hacking is that all hacking is terminated in society i.e. "this is why we can't have nice things".

I just can't imagine how deep you would have to dig into that. However, BMW abandoning it doesn't mean much since their software team is not top notch. I feel like some of the folks on here should be on that team!

LexxM3 · 12-02-2019, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by randybobandy

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Originally Posted by LexxM3

"Brave" would only apply when there is NO RISK to OTHERS' wellbeing and property, only to yours. Entirely other words come to mind for this. While it's not impossible to hack around this safely, very few have the capability and mental discipline to do so (I include myself somewhere in the grey zone for this). The impact of stupid hacking is that all hacking is terminated in society i.e. "this is why we can't have nice things".

I just can't imagine how deep you would have to dig into that. However, BMW abandoning it doesn't mean much since their software team is not top notch. I feel like some of the folks on here should be on that team!

BMW abandoning means A LOT! We're not reprogramming here, "coding" is just adjusting a couple parameters in existing software to enable and disable features. Those features better be fully operational and exhaustively tested if safety is involved and that has nothing to do with coding and is 10s of orders of magnitude removed from real software engineering required.

randybobandy · 12-02-2019, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LexxM3

BMW abandoning means A LOT! We're not reprogramming here, "coding" is just adjusting a couple parameters in existing software to enable and disable features. Those features better be fully operational and exhaustively tested if safety is involved and that has nothing to do with coding and is 10s of orders of magnitude removed from real software engineering required.

Here's my problem. If BMW knows there are issues with their software development and in real world application...why don't they fix it? I have no problem waiting for something if it's done right. But this whole fix one thing break 2 others is really unacceptable from BMW. I know we are beating a dead horse with all of these issues, but I am a little irritated that purchased a vehicle under the premises key features would be available and working. I've never seen such a crap show of a job with zero transparency. So do the people who have the 5 and 7 series cars with this feature have it? Or did BMW just blast it from their cars? That would piss me off more than the remote software updates, since it is a pretty neat feature.

PS...now you see why I need "Coding for Dummies"...I have no clue about 99.999999% of this realm.

LexxM3 · 12-02-2019, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by randybobandy

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexxM3

BMW abandoning means A LOT! We're not reprogramming here, "coding" is just adjusting a couple parameters in existing software to enable and disable features. Those features better be fully operational and exhaustively tested if safety is involved and that has nothing to do with coding and is 10s of orders of magnitude removed from real software engineering required.

Here's my problem. If BMW knows there are issues with their software development and in real world application...why don't they fix it? I have no problem waiting for something if it's done right. But this whole fix one thing break 2 others is really unacceptable from BMW. I know we are beating a dead horse with all of these issues, but I am a little irritated that purchased a vehicle under the premises key features would be available and working. I've never seen such a crap show of a job with zero transparency. So do the people who have the 5 and 7 series cars with this feature have it? Or did BMW just blast it from their cars? That would piss me off more than the remote software updates, since it is a pretty neat feature.

PS...now you see why I need "Coding for Dummies"...I have no clue about 99.999999% of this realm.

For this feature, at least they didn't advertise it and then not deliver it. I don't want to defend BMW (at all, they don't deserve it), but let's compartmentalize things a bit — let's be pissed about advertised features that are not delivered and the bugs/bad design of what is delivered, rather than something we want but wasn't promised :-).

randybobandy · 12-02-2019, 09:33 AM

LexxM3 Ha, sorry...I am sour and just pissed in general. At the end of the day, these are all minuscule problems in regards to real world problems. As long as I have my music and get from Point A to B, I am good! Oh, and saved ASS function!

Daniel-J · 12-03-2019, 03:50 AM

I don't think that's what it's supposed to be for this model. It may be worth contacting your dealer to find out if an additional device or program has been developed.

Dex05 · 12-03-2019, 09:21 AM

Here is crazy remote parking hack if you dont wanna get wet

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BTW Its stupid so never do that!

homerrr · 12-03-2019, 09:32 AM

Someone's put a lot of faith in the system!

randybobandy · 12-03-2019, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by imdexter

Here is crazy remote parking hack if you dont wanna get wet

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BTW Its stupid so never do that!

Wow. this is why we can't have nice things! Here's 2 options that would be better/safer...find another spot or go out of the trunk! Hell if you feel frisky...the sunroof! I can't believe this lol.

LexxM3 · 12-03-2019, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by randybobandy

Quote:

Originally Posted by imdexter

Here is crazy remote parking hack if you dont wanna get wet

.
BTW Its stupid so never do that!

Wow. this is why we can't have nice things! Here's 2 options that would be better/safer...find another spot or go out of the trunk! Hell if you feel frisky...the sunroof! I can't believe this lol.

Sunroof is an interesting idea, but the roof panels on the X5 are less than paper thin. Pretty sure a medium-sized bird sitting on the roof would dent or at least compress it. Don't lean on it.

randybobandy · 12-03-2019, 01:04 PM

I’ll do a mission impossible and spread myself out to increase surface area and reduce weight. I think I saw that in myth buster.

I have use the tailgate method before. Parked the wrong way in the garage and didn’t back in like usual. It was cool the first time.

TSMC55 · 12-03-2019, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by imdexter

Here is crazy remote parking hack if you dont wanna get wet

.
BTW Its stupid so never do that!

I wonder what trick he will use to get it back out of the spot.

Craziness, although it did not seem to go that fast. I always crap myself at the speed it seems to go when self parking.

12-01-2019, 03:27 PM	#1
2REP Private 21 Rep 58 Posts Drives: X5 45e M Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	Remote Control Parking I have the BMW display key as part of the innovation package and it has (according to the picture) the button on the top right that is needed to initiate Remote Control Parking. Does this mean this feature is enabled by default or can I activate it through coding? Or is this again something that is country specific?
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Pictor Major 1620 Rep 1,435 Posts Drives: 2023 iX xDrive50 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW iX xDrive50 [0.00] 2020 BMW M850i [0.00]	I haven't seen any mention of remote control parking since the 7 and 5 series. I love it on my M550i for those few times where someone jammed me in a parking space or when I returned to find my car parked in a puddle of water after a bit of rain. We ordered our 2020 X5 yesterday and if RC parking is available then I'll be super excited but I suspect BMW has abandoned it - for now.
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homerrr First Lieutenant 134 Rep 326 Posts Drives: BMW G05 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: US iTrader: (0)	It must be hidden away in the ECUs somewhere...
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12-02-2019, 05:37 AM	#4
ifr Lieutenant Colonel 1197 Rep 1,587 Posts Drives: Tesla MY LR AWD Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	Not a supported option for an X5. The code is 5DV and cannot be added to FA. There are a number codes available across a few ECU's but I doubt they will work.
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12-02-2019, 05:57 AM	#5
2REP Private 21 Rep 58 Posts Drives: X5 45e M Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	They advertise it on the BMW.BE website as a feature on some models, and since the X5 has so much technology on board I assumed it would also be available for it. I'm sure the car has the hardware on board so I hope we can unlock it through coding.
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12-02-2019, 05:59 AM	#6
ifr Lieutenant Colonel 1197 Rep 1,587 Posts Drives: Tesla MY LR AWD Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	If you can't add it to the FA, I wouldn't even go near it in coding.
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12-02-2019, 06:10 AM	#8
ifr Lieutenant Colonel 1197 Rep 1,587 Posts Drives: Tesla MY LR AWD Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: N/A iTrader: (0)	You could try it, but its probably doomed to failure. I'd start by generating the codes needed for a supported model such as the 5 series. There is no FA support and therefore no boolean logic to identify any G05 specific codes so it will almost certainly fail: - not supported in the firmware/i-step - never coded or tested by BMW for this model - could even be dangerous. The G05 is a big vehicle, can most people even fully see where they are reversing it from outside the car?
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12-02-2019, 08:17 AM	#9
randybobandy Rick James 305 Rep 784 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340i xDrive Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	You're a brave soul if you try coding it. I would be worried about insurance claims or other liabilities if something goes wrong.
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12-02-2019, 09:33 AM	#15
randybobandy Rick James 305 Rep 784 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340i xDrive Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	LexxM3 Ha, sorry...I am sour and just pissed in general. At the end of the day, these are all minuscule problems in regards to real world problems. As long as I have my music and get from Point A to B, I am good! Oh, and saved ASS function!
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12-03-2019, 03:50 AM	#16
Daniel-J New Member 0 Rep 6 Posts Drives: BMW E53 X5 Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Adelaide iTrader: (0)	I don't think that's what it's supposed to be for this model. It may be worth contacting your dealer to find out if an additional device or program has been developed.
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12-03-2019, 09:21 AM	#17
Dex05 Private First Class 29 Rep 135 Posts Drives: BMW X5 2019 - White/Beige Join Date: May 2019 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	Here is crazy remote parking hack if you dont wanna get wet . BTW Its stupid so never do that! __________________ BMW X5 2019 - Software version 03/2021.36 Mineral White on Canberra Beige + Walknappa Leather Dashboard
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homerrr First Lieutenant 134 Rep 326 Posts Drives: BMW G05 Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Someone's put a lot of faith in the system!
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12-03-2019, 01:04 PM	#21
randybobandy Rick James 305 Rep 784 Posts Drives: 2020 BMW M340i xDrive Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	I’ll do a mission impossible and spread myself out to increase surface area and reduce weight. I think I saw that in myth buster. I have use the tailgate method before. Parked the wrong way in the garage and didn’t back in like usual. It was cool the first time.
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