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      05-29-2020, 10:28 AM   #485
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Wow that's crazy!!! I ordered mine around the same time and it's been built and shipped. What model?
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      05-29-2020, 10:33 AM   #486
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Wow that's crazy!!! I ordered mine around the same time and it's been built and shipped. What model?
45e, pretty specced out options wise but no exotic individual trims or anything
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      05-29-2020, 10:44 AM   #487
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Wow that's crazy!!! I ordered mine around the same time and it's been built and shipped. What model?
That's not crazy. 45e ordered in July 2019 and now in production for delivery July 2020. Fingers crossed! That's crazy
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      05-29-2020, 11:10 AM   #488
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That is insane that it takes over a year to order/receive an X5 for you guys. Is the wait time shorter if you got a model built in Germany?
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      05-29-2020, 11:24 AM   #489
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That is insane that it takes over a year to order/receive an X5 for you guys. Is the wait time shorter if you got a model built in Germany?
Yes it is. For a five series around 6 weeks for custom build.

But HeavyD waiting time is epic. It will go in the books as the longest wait in history. Almost as long as making a government in Belgium.

The production in the US is one reason but the other is the 45e engine. Lots of orders and not enough batteries.

Same issues with the Volvo XC 90 T8 and Audi Q7 tfsi E. Waiting times between 6 - 12 months.

And for a PHEV this is annoying with the fast evolving technologies. By the time it is delivered new and better models are introduced. And you already want to order a new one. 😜
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      05-29-2020, 12:04 PM   #490
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Hi All, On my side, I ordered a G05 45e with M package mid December last year in Belgium and it was supposed to be delivered in week 30. (which I find already very long). Following the crisis and the shut down of Spartanburg I just heard the news that it is delayed until week 38 This is a 10 months delay... A friend of mine who ordered the same car in October last year was delayed until July. He just cancelled his order... I hear much lower delays in other countries. I find it very surprising that for a 100k car you have such discrepancies between delivery timing in different countries.

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      05-29-2020, 12:18 PM   #491
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Hi All, On my side, I ordered a G05 45e with M package mid December last year in Belgium and it was supposed to be delivered in week 30. (which I find already very long). Following the crisis and the shut down of Spartanburg I just heard the news that it is delayed until week 38 ���� This is a 10 months delay... A friend of mine who ordered the same car in October last year was delayed until July. He just cancelled his order... I hear much lower delays in other countries. I find it very surprising that for a 100k car you have such discrepancies between delivery timing in different countries.
Weird, I ordered mine in Belgium December 11th, was going to be built in W15 but now confirmed to W26 an delivered no later than W33(dealer says this is final and won't change anymore). Maybe yours just isn't planned in yet?

If they give me another delay I will cancel mine.
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      05-29-2020, 12:26 PM   #492
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Weird, I ordered mine in Belgium December 11th, was going to be built in W15 but now confirmed to W26 an delivered no later than W33(dealer says this is final and won't change anymore). Maybe yours just isn't planned in yet?

If they give me another delay I will cancel mine.
I asked why different dealers have such different delays in the same country and it all depends on the number of X5ís that were allocated to each dealer when the car was launched. If the dealer did sell well, he had to book some extra production slots and was pushed later in the pipeline for new cars. so in your case even if we have 3 days difference between our orders, we end up with 5 weeks delay in delivery I understood this a bit too late
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I asked why different dealers have such different delays in the same country and it all depends on the number of X5ís that were allocated to each dealer when the car was launched. If the dealer did sell well, he had to book some extra production slots and was pushed later in the pipeline for new cars. so in your case even if we have 3 days difference between our orders, we end up with 5 weeks delay in delivery I understood this a bit too late
I will only start hoping when I receive a VIN, they confirmed me at W23 too before rescheduling me to W26.
Which dealer do you have?
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Wow those times on the 45e are insane. Granted it's a little more complex in engine and drivetrain but the difference in lead time vs my M50i ordered the same week is bonkers!
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Thing is that all PHEV have extremely long waiting list.

Due to WLTP measurements the xc90 T8 is above 50 Gr CO2 so is the Q7 tfsi e. Only fiscally interesting SUV is the GLE or xc60 T8. I doubt if waiting's times are much lower. Porsche Cayenne e hybrid is too high anyway.

I just read that maybe in Belgium to will switch to wltp one year later so some older PHEV might be interesting one year longer.

Maybe try to buy one of the first second hand 45e's? But probably prices will be high due to shortages.

Or just buy a 30d and pay the taxes.
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I asked why different dealers have such different delays in the same country and it all depends on the number of X5ís that were allocated to each dealer when the car was launched. If the dealer did sell well, he had to book some extra production slots and was pushed later in the pipeline for new cars. so in your case even if we have 3 days difference between our orders, we end up with 5 weeks delay in delivery I understood this a bit too late
That used to be the system (as I was able to get one of my E92 M3s this way back in 2013 via a car my dealer had already in build but before spec lock-down) but as I understand it it's become more of a free-for all now i.e. BMW have X spaces available in a given year and it's pot luck if your dealer can get a build. I get very well looked after by my dealer given the spend I send them and they raised this as a potential issue back in Jan when I ordered just in case it went tits.
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Wow those times on the 45e are insane. Granted it's a little more complex in engine and drivetrain but the difference in lead time vs my M50i ordered the same week is bonkers!
The problem is shortage in the HV batteries.
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      05-29-2020, 02:09 PM   #498
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I will only start hoping when I receive a VIN, they confirmed me at W23 too before rescheduling me to W26.
Which dealer do you have?
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Hello all. My G05 "started production" May 18th, FINALLY! As of today it still says "Started production". No change 12 days later. However, my Dealer and the BMW Genius said it's "estimated" to be done June 8th. My car had been pushed back quite a bit and I was told late July. I called my dealers General Manager and they somehow got me moved up a bit which is why it went into production May 18th. Still Patiently waiting. Stay safe.
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Hello all. My G05 "started production" May 18th, FINALLY! As of today it still says "Started production". No change 12 days later. However, my Dealer and the BMW Genius said it's "estimated" to be done June 8th. My car had been pushed back quite a bit and I was told late July. I called my dealers General Manager and they somehow got me moved up a bit which is why it went into production May 18th. Still Patiently waiting. Stay safe.
My dealer in Belgium also told me my car went to status 150 production Started May 18th and is still status 150 today and the production will be completed by end of next week.

I don't get this. If I read other posts about production it's a matter of a few days to go from 150 to 155 Production Completed. This is a almost 3 weeks to go from status 150 to 155.

Does anyone knows what's going on?
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My dealer in Belgium also told me my car went to status 150 production Started May 18th and is still status 150 today and the production will be completed by end of next week.

I don't get this. If I read other posts about production it's a matter of a few days to go from 150 to 155 Production Completed. This is a almost 3 weeks to go from status 150 to 155.

Does anyone knows what's going on?
I believe the short factory process you anticipate begins with vehicle assembly:
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Someone shared this chart prepared by BMW Group employee Angela Riedmaier, entitled "Order Status Bar Germany", on a German forum. Found and translated with Google. The notes in brackets are an attempt to correspond to the MyBMW tracker and familiar BMW NA Dealer system codes.

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000 Order is canceled [Order deleted by NA]
017 Order registered without quota - dummy model (master data not released); not confirmed and not scheduled [Order not specified]
027 Order registered without quota - outside the ordering time window; not confirmed and not scheduled
037 Order registered without quota - technical approval is missing; not confirmed and not scheduled [Order at BMW NA][Model or feature unavailable]
047 Order registered without quota - no quota in the entire planning period; not confirmed and not scheduled [Order bank request entered]
057 Order booked with quota - technical approval is missing; not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Spec. not released - available quota]
087 Order booked with quota - sales release is missing (e.g. for large customers); not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Order not released for production]
097 Order booked with quota - transfer to the central system is not carried out online; not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Transmission to AG - confirmation pending]
102 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; Special request not yet confirmed and not scheduled [Special request order received - AG]
105 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; not yet confirmed due to capacity limits and not scheduled [No production week available]
111 Order booked with quota - transferred to the central system; capacity checked production date is confirmed [Order Received]
112 Order for daily package planning (production) provided [Scheduled for Production]
150 Planning of bodyshell / display of chassis number and F2 date [Production begins/Production started] [Shell = "Body in White"]
151 Receipt of shell / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Exterior body assembly begins/Entry body shop-serial # assign]
152 Receipt of paint shop / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [In the paint booth/Entry paint shop]
153 Receipt of assembly / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 appointment [Entering Assembly Line/Entry assembly]
154 Final assembly / inspection and, if necessary, correction of the F2 date [Assembly in progress/Assembly]
155 End of assembly (F1) and final inspection / review and, if necessary, correction of F2 date [Quality Check, Final Assembly/Assembly finish-quality check]
160 Vehicle handover from the factory to sales / determination of F2 date (actual) / initiation of invoice and registration document creation transit [Ready For Transport/Vehicle handover to sales]
165 Factory exit and transit (Spartanburg-Bremerhaven; Oxford-Zeebrugge; Graz-Garching; Scorce / Aprilia -Berlin)
168 BMW Group factory warehouse [Awaiting Carrier Assignment]
170 Vehicle intended for workshop cycle (BMW Welt car pick-up / retrofitting / direct sales + vehicle fleet)
172 Vehicle scheduled for workshop run
174 Vehicle is in the workshop run
176 Exit workshop - vehicle is ready
181 Handover to shipping (at foreign plant: port of destination) / vehicle is in the central brokerage warehouse [Dispatched from factory]
182 Handover to freight forwarder - vehicle is loaded
190 Vehicle has left the factory (at the foreign plant: transshipment warehouse) / exit from the central brokerage center [At the port]
191 Goods receipt BMW Group (retrieval of an already delivered vehicle with corresponding invoice credit)
193 Entrance to the forwarding warehouse (car)
195 Exit warehouse (car)
198 Entrance to the dealer warehouse
199 Delivery to BMW Welt for self-collectors / direct sales / fleet entrance
295 Approval of demonstration and fleet vehicles (note the bonus-relevant registration deadlines)
298 Registration or delivery notification by retailers to end customers (note the relevant registration deadlines)
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My dealer in Belgium also told me my car went to status 150 production Started May 18th and is still status 150 today and the production will be completed by end of next week.

I don't get this. If I read other posts about production it's a matter of a few days to go from 150 to 155 Production Completed. This is a almost 3 weeks to go from status 150 to 155.

Does anyone knows what's going on?
I saw this a while back, and although it is for a 330i built in Germany, I think it may hold for either direction.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/14/h...d-to-delivery/

I Noticed: ** Build start (150) to build finish (155): 1-2 weeks
For me:
. . . . 150 - 5/27
ETA 155 - 6/11
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Don't know what is worse, getting a "confirmed date" and a vin like most of you get and still not being able to trust that info or not knowing anything at all. I still didn't get any date for mine. Calling my dealer for an update next week, but I'm not expecting any change...

Back in the days when I ordered my 435d, it was also a new car, some individual options, it arrived 3 months earlier than initially expected. Even with the corona issue (which bmw will happily use as an excuse for everything) this is really crazy. This whole system of dealer slots is messed up, it should be client slots, first order first out. Taking into account they group some orders naturally but not delaying orders for months like this... There's a limit on being an understanding customer.
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Don't know what is worse, getting a "confirmed date" and a vin like most of you get and still not being able to trust that info or not knowing anything at all. I still didn't get any date for mine. Calling my dealer for an update next week, but I'm not expecting any change...

Back in the days when I ordered my 435d, it was also a new car, some individual options, it arrived 3 months earlier than initially expected. Even with the corona issue (which bmw will happily use as an excuse for everything) this is really crazy. This whole system of dealer slots is messed up, it should be client slots, first order first out. Taking into account they group some orders naturally but not delaying orders for months like this... There's a limit on being an understanding customer.
Agree. Current approach is not customer centric but rather internal politics focused... I can understand extra delays due to logistics or some specific options not immediately available but I canít really understand why you end up with the lack of transparency due to their dealer lottery.
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Got an update, production planned for week 38, delivery week 45, if nothing changes that is...
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Got an update, production planned for week 38, delivery week 45, if nothing changes that is...
So that's also 12 months from order to delivery?
I ordered beginning of July 2019 and I hope the car gets delivered 2nd half of July.
Normally production is completed this week but I will check with my dealer on Friday.
I received a VIN last week but it it still doesn't show up on VIN decoders.

Anyone knows when a new VIN is available online?

A year waiting time is just completely over the top!
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