Front Camber Arm demand

r33_RGSport · 07-28-2022, 11:26 PM

Guys,

I am debating whether I should invest my time and money in making front camber arm or not.
I have purchased factory upper Arm.
But sort of hesitant in continuing with it since I know that most of my customers don't keep their car longer than 3 years.

Let me know if I should and what price range would you pay for it.

I have 2-3 different designs, just need to implement it based on the demand and price point.

GotBeemed · 07-29-2022, 05:00 AM

I WOULD PAY! HOW MUCH? I don't know, comparable market value to other kits on the market for other vehicles with a slight upcharge, due to you controlling the market for that particular product for the X5M and X6M.

PacShakur · 07-29-2022, 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Guys,

I am debating whether I should invest my time and money in making front camber arm or not.
I have purchased factory upper Arm.
But sort of hesitant in continuing with it since I know that most of my customers don't keep their car longer than 3 years.

Let me know if I should and what price range would you pay for it.

I have 2-3 different designs, just need to implement it based on the demand and price point.

Will still solve tire wear with MSS?

I’mAllIn · 07-29-2022, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PacShakur

Will still solve tire wear with MSS?

I assume Ben is addressing this specific issue, of too much negative camber on lowered cars. If my assumption is right, I’d be in also for sure.

r33_RGSport · 07-29-2022, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PacShakur

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Guys,

I am debating whether I should invest my time and money in making front camber arm or not.
I have purchased factory upper Arm.
But sort of hesitant in continuing with it since I know that most of my customers don't keep their car longer than 3 years.

Let me know if I should and what price range would you pay for it.

I have 2-3 different designs, just need to implement it based on the demand and price point.

Will still solve tire wear with MSS?

Well, tire wear is because of toe setting.
But, only the 1" inner thread tire wear is because of the camber.

Alan l. · 07-29-2022, 08:49 AM

Specifically trying to prevent this from happening on lowered cars...

My front tires were trashed even though the rest of it had plenty of tread left. I didn't want to gamble at what point will that wear through into the cords during some long road trips i have planned. Rear tires are fine since camber is adjustable. Just not the fronts until Ben does his magic.

Hit_Apex · 07-29-2022, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan l.

My front tires were trashed even though the rest of it had plenty of tread left. I didn't want to gamble at what point will that wear through into the cords during some long road trips i have planned. Rear tires are fine since camber is adjustable. Just not the fronts until Ben does his magic.

Are your miles mostly highway? What pressure was that tire kept at?

Alan l. · 07-29-2022, 10:14 AM

I'd say its a mix bag of highway when i do long road trips and typical NYC stop and go traffic.

I usually keep my front PSI right around 39-41psi. Both front tires looked this way and I had an alignment done after the MSS install.

onfireX5 · 07-29-2022, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Specifically trying to prevent this from happening on lowered cars...

My front tires were trashed even though the rest of it had plenty of tread left. I didn't want to gamble at what point will that wear through into the cords during some long road trips i have planned. Rear tires are fine since camber is adjustable. Just not the fronts until Ben does his magic.

How many miles ?

r33_RGSport · 07-29-2022, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan l.

Specifically trying to prevent this from happening on lowered cars...

My front tires were trashed even though the rest of it had plenty of tread left. I didn't want to gamble at what point will that wear through into the cords during some long road trips i have planned. Rear tires are fine since camber is adjustable. Just not the fronts until Ben does his magic.

What's your wheel width and tire size?
So I can data them.

MC2002X5MC · 07-29-2022, 12:35 PM

Inner tire wear is aggressive with MSS. It this alleviates the inner front tire wear issue, it will pay for itself by extending tire life. Count me in.

PacShakur · 07-29-2022, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_rgsport

guys,

i am debating whether i should invest my time and money in making front camber arm or not.
I have purchased factory upper arm.
But sort of hesitant in continuing with it since i know that most of my customers don't keep their car longer than 3 years.

Let me know if i should and what price range would you pay for it.

I have 2-3 different designs, just need to implement it based on the demand and price point.

take my money!!

x622 · 07-29-2022, 09:05 PM

7075 aluminum bar stock with heim joints and call it done. I have no idea who you're going to white label or source, but I wouldn't expect the arms to cost more than $700 with quality heims and a powdercoat. DM me if you want connections to a shop in AZ that does this.

Mo2002 · 07-29-2022, 09:10 PM

If this was available when I first installed the MSS, I would've jumped on it. Now that I have a year left on the lease, I wouldn't get it if it became available now.

I’mAllIn · 07-30-2022, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by onfireX5

How many miles ?

I’d also like to know how many miles this tire has on it? Thanks

scottiekay73 · 07-30-2022, 07:04 AM

I'd be interested in a set for sure. Although my Lionheart 22" fronts are $195 a tire. It's worth the investment. Even at $700 for whatever resolves the issue it's well worth it. I don't doubt I'll be changing fronts every 6-8k miles as they are now.

bellabimmer · 07-30-2022, 05:16 PM

If it solves some issue like tire wear if those with MSS etc have then yeah you would have a specific customer target but in general I am not optimistic that it will be worth of it.

As you said many don't keep car for longer than 3 years and up to 3-4 years nobody would need to change it in cars from factory since the X5M X6M seems to be a strong suspensions etc and also there is too much competition in market from other companies who make suspension parts.

Alan l. · 07-30-2022, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

What's your wheel width and tire size?
So I can data them.

22x10.5 wheel with 295/30/22 tire

Alan l. · 07-30-2022, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by onfireX5

How many miles ?

I can't remember exactly because I swap between winter wheels and summer but I would guess thats about 8K miles max

I’mAllIn · 08-03-2022, 06:16 AM

Ben, is this project moving forward? Feels like the Field of Dreams - build it and they will come!

r33_RGSport · 08-03-2022, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by IÂ’mAllIn

Ben, is this project moving forward? Feels like the Field of Dreams - build it and they will come!

Yes, just need to get on it as soon as I am able to. Got a few ideas in mind.

I’mAllIn · 08-03-2022, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by r33_RGSport

Yes, just need to get on it as soon as I am able to. Got a few ideas in mind.

Ok, great.

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Alan l. Major General 5452 Rep 8,815 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	Specifically trying to prevent this from happening on lowered cars... My front tires were trashed even though the rest of it had plenty of tread left. I didn't want to gamble at what point will that wear through into the cords during some long road trips i have planned. Rear tires are fine since camber is adjustable. Just not the fronts until Ben does his magic. __________________
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Alan l. Major General 5452 Rep 8,815 Posts Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: United States iTrader: (9)	I'd say its a mix bag of highway when i do long road trips and typical NYC stop and go traffic. I usually keep my front PSI right around 39-41psi. Both front tires looked this way and I had an alignment done after the MSS install. __________________
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MC2002X5MC Enlisted Member 68 Rep 36 Posts Drives: 2020 X5MC Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Inner tire wear is aggressive with MSS. It this alleviates the inner front tire wear issue, it will pay for itself by extending tire life. Count me in.
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scottiekay73 Private First Class 165 Rep 151 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW X5M Comp Join Date: Feb 2022 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	I'd be interested in a set for sure. Although my Lionheart 22" fronts are $195 a tire. It's worth the investment. Even at $700 for whatever resolves the issue it's well worth it. I don't doubt I'll be changing fronts every 6-8k miles as they are now. __________________ @scott_Kaz73 ( Instagram )
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bellabimmer Private First Class 91 Rep 197 Posts Drives: BMW X5M F95 Join Date: Apr 2021 Location: EU iTrader: (0)	If it solves some issue like tire wear if those with MSS etc have then yeah you would have a specific customer target but in general I am not optimistic that it will be worth of it. As you said many don't keep car for longer than 3 years and up to 3-4 years nobody would need to change it in cars from factory since the X5M X6M seems to be a strong suspensions etc and also there is too much competition in market from other companies who make suspension parts.
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