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      07-21-2021, 12:29 AM   #1
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Sacrifice Ideal Build For a Great Deal?

Recently I have been shopping for an x5 45e and cannot find any dealers willing to discount. I called about 10-12 of them in my area.

During my search I found a nice dealer about 3 hours away who has a x5 40i demo and they are willing to discount it $11k altogether including incentives. It’s not my exact color combination and it doesn’t have m sport. I mainly wanted msport due to looks.

Would you consider a discount to get something outside your ideal colors and options? I’m debating if it’s worth it and if I will have regrets.
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      07-21-2021, 12:58 AM   #2
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Recently I have been shopping for an x5 45e and cannot find any dealers willing to discount. I called about 10-12 of them in my area.

During my search I found a nice dealer about 3 hours away who has a x5 40i demo and they are willing to discount it $11k altogether including incentives. It's not my exact color combination and it doesn't have m sport. I mainly wanted msport due to looks.

Would you consider a discount to get something outside your ideal colors and options? I'm debating if it's worth it and if I will have regrets.
I had the production number of 45e for week 31 in hands and found the better deal for brand new M50i at dealership few hours from my location. I decided to buy M50i not only because of the great deal but also because the build is 100% matching my requirements.
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      07-21-2021, 01:19 AM   #3
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Recently I have been shopping for an x5 45e and cannot find any dealers willing to discount. I called about 10-12 of them in my area.

During my search I found a nice dealer about 3 hours away who has a x5 40i demo and they are willing to discount it $11k altogether including incentives. It’s not my exact color combination and it doesn’t have m sport. I mainly wanted msport due to looks.

Would you consider a discount to get something outside your ideal colors and options? I’m debating if it’s worth it and if I will have regrets.
How much is the MSRP and incentive?

$11K discount on demo 40i is decent but not great, given the current incentive for MY 21 is ~$3-4K, meaning actual discount is only ~$8K.
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      07-21-2021, 07:18 AM   #4
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Recently I have been shopping for an x5 45e and cannot find any dealers willing to discount. I called about 10-12 of them in my area.

During my search I found a nice dealer about 3 hours away who has a x5 40i demo and they are willing to discount it $11k altogether including incentives. It’s not my exact color combination and it doesn’t have m sport. I mainly wanted msport due to looks.

Would you consider a discount to get something outside your ideal colors and options? I’m debating if it’s worth it and if I will have regrets.
If you are buying with the intent to hold onto for a few years (as opposed to leasing) then I think you will certainly regret not getting what you wanted. You will likely think what if each time you sit into your deal. I would suck it up and get your ideal build if money is not that big a concern. Tomorrow is not guaranteed- treat yourself right if you can afford to.
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[…]I would suck it up and get your ideal build if money is not that big a concern. Tomorrow is not guaranteed- treat yourself right if you can afford to.
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      07-21-2021, 08:10 AM   #6
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In my experience I wanted to trade in my vehicle that was slightly different than ideal sooner than later. That might be fine in your situation, or not if you plan on keeping it long term.
Color wasn’t as big as deal for me as the seats and some other options.
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      07-21-2021, 09:18 AM   #7
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Probably not worth it. If you wanted M Sport, everyday you walked into your garage you would be disappointed with the look of the car. Color is one thing and taking your 2nd or 3rd choice for a great deal is livable, but features, options, and appearance I think you would be disappointed. If the great deal made an M50i available in your price range then it might be a different story.
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      07-21-2021, 09:35 AM   #8
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Get the car that you want. I've been in your situation before and have never ever considered the deal over the build I want
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      07-21-2021, 09:46 AM   #9
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Concur with sentiments above regarding getting what you want vs settling. Would buying a good used be an option ?
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How much is the MSRP and incentive?

$11K discount on demo 40i is decent but not great, given the current incentive for MY 21 is ~$3-4K, meaning actual discount is only ~$8K.
I can’t get dealers to move off msrp at all. So the $8k these days I am considering good. I even reached out to 3 brokers and all told me msrp in my region. On the east coast there are discounts but when I factor in enclosed shipping and such it makes no sense.
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In my experience I wanted to trade in my vehicle that was slightly different than ideal sooner than later. That might be fine in your situation, or not if you plan on keeping it long term.
Color wasn’t as big as deal for me as the seats and some other options.
So it has all the packages I want except m sport. Also outside color is what I would order, inside is espresso ( I rather have black). Unsure how I feel about espresso.

Priced out the car is about $10-11k less than anything else I’ve been offered.
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      07-21-2021, 10:03 AM   #12
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Concur with sentiments above regarding getting what you want vs settling. Would buying a good used be an option ?
So that’s why I am considering this less than ideal build. It’s actually priced less than other 2019s around my region. So it’s a good deal compared.

I can’t find anything with my ideal build less than $60k
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      07-21-2021, 10:05 AM   #13
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Concur with sentiments above regarding getting what you want vs settling. Would buying a good used be an option ?
So that’s why I am considering this less than ideal build. It’s actually priced less than other 2019s around my region. So it’s a good deal compared.

I can’t find anything with my ideal build less than $60k
Can you wait it out into a few months / next year or do you need act now ?
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      07-21-2021, 10:07 AM   #14
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Can you wait it out into a few months / next year or do you need act now ?
I have till December; I am nervous supply may be worse if I wait. I guess I can always order though.
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      07-21-2021, 10:55 AM   #15
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Since you were considering 45e, the tax incentives can also come into play. Not sure if your state has any in addition to the Federal credit.
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      07-21-2021, 11:14 AM   #16
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Since you were considering 45e, the tax incentives can also come into play. Not sure if your state has any in addition to the Federal credit.
The quotes I got was for:

1. in stock 45e - MSRP $78k, selling price $73k after all incentives.
2. Loaner 40i - MSRP $72k, selling price $62k after all incentives.
3. Custom Order 2022 45e - MSRP $75k, $71k after all incentives.
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my dealer said they are not discounting off MSRP these days due to the severe car shortage and very little inventory to sell... Not sure if true or not
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      07-21-2021, 11:21 AM   #18
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my dealer said they are not discounting off MSRP these days due to the severe car shortage and very little inventory to sell... Not sure if true or not
Yes I’ve called like 12 dealers and no one is offering much (maybe 1-2%) besides incentives.
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      07-21-2021, 11:34 AM   #19
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The quotes I got was for:

1. in stock 45e - MSRP $78k, selling price $73k after all incentives.
2. Loaner 40i - MSRP $72k, selling price $62k after all incentives.
3. Custom Order 2022 45e - MSRP $75k, $71k after all incentives.
Wait...am I missing something here? Both 45e aren't that far off $62K after factoring in $7.5K tax credit (and potentially more in some states). I see no point in buying a loner without the desired options just to save $2-3K.

And what year/mileage is the loaner 40i?
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      07-21-2021, 11:37 AM   #20
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Wait...am I missing something? Both 45e aren't that far off $62K after factoring in $7.5K tax credit (and potentially more in some states).

And what year/mileage is the loaner 40i here?
The loaner is 2021 with 4K miles. I was trying to be at $65k on the 45e.

I’m thinking then the next best option is ordering a 2022, no point getting a 2021 without much discount.

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Also, anyone know how to get an OL code in the next month?
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      07-21-2021, 11:43 AM   #22
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I generally agree with what others are saying. Also as 45e21 mentioned, consider that you the federal tax credit is $7.5K for the 45e. Obviously the 40i doesn't qualify. Note that the amount you're eligible for is UP TO your tax liability, but for the most part I don't think this is an issue for anyone purchasing an x5.

For the sake of considering the other side, though, I'm going to play Devil's Advocate:
  • I wanted M Sport as well, but ultimately my wife didn't like it. Now that I've taken delivery, I actually quite like the x-line and it doesn't bother me like I thought it would.
  • Color: I'd say as long as it's a color you at least like, you'll quickly get used to it even if it wasn't your first choice
  • Outside of color and M-sport, is it missing any options that you wanted e.g. DAPP or PAP? If missing, I would consider it a deal breaker. If not, I would consider purchasing.
  • Getting the car now vs later: Don't underestimate the anxiety that comes with constantly shopping around, negotiating, waiting, etc...

For me personally, if I'm going to buy a new car, I want a new car, not something that's been driven around by a bunch of people. It probably makes little to no difference, but when you consider that tax credit, you don't actually have to pay that much more for the 45e, and you get everything you want in terms of options. If the net difference was in the $10K range, sure, you should consider the loaner, but after the credit the difference is almost negligible. My vote is get the 45e.
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