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Car and driver has published review for BMW X5 2024 for M60i and 50e. It hadn't published anything for 40i yet.

Overall: https://www.caranddriver.com/bmw/x5-2024
50e: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...50e-phev-test/
m60i: https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-x5-m60i-test/

Specs and test results:

[LDT]

M60i is the overall winner amongst performance SUVs. I set out to order a Cayenne S but just couldn’t find $20k more car in the similarly equipped Porsche.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by LDT

M60i is the overall winner amongst performance SUVs. I set out to order a Cayenne S but just couldn’t find $20k more car in the similarly equipped Porsche.

Clearly you forgot to select the $3500 option to put Porsche crests on the seat backs 😛

I kid, but that's the thing with the Porsches, they don't make sense. You buy the Porsche because you want the damn Porsche for some inexplicable reason. And OF COURSE you're gonna option the $7500 body color painted carbon fiber badges.

[Ibiza]

Interesting that the C&D X5 M60i didn’t have the M professional suspension with the active role bars. The 0-60mph speed is impressive, as recently a 4 series 440 thought he could out gun the M60i at a traffic light. Wonder what the X5M comp 0-60 time is? BMW should allow the M sport seats (such as for the UK and EU markets) to be ordered when the M professional suspension is ordered, as you need the extra side and shoulder support when hitting turns hard.

[lsutigers]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Interesting that the C&D X5 M60i didn’t have the M professional suspension with the active role bars. The 0-60mph speed is impressive, as recently a 4 series 440 thought he could out gun the M60i at a traffic light. Wonder what the X5M comp 0-60 time is? BMW should allow the M sport seats (such as for the UK and EU markets) to be ordered when the M professional suspension is ordered, as you need the extra side and shoulder support when hitting turns hard.

The X5MC is good for sub-3.5 second 0-60.

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by lsutigers

The X5M COMP is good for sub-3.5 second 0-60.

I’m aware of the sub 3.5 for the X5MC, but is it closer to 3.0 or 3.5.

[crabman]

It's hard to replicate the C&D numbers; they're typically the lowest you'll find anywhere and most don't get them. Your average YouTuber is doing around 3.5 or a little higher with the M and 4, 4.1, or a little more with the 60.

Not talking about Goldilocks runs, what average people get when they mash the pedal and see what happens.

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Originally Posted by crabman

It's hard to replicate the C&D numbers; they're typically the lowest you'll find anywhere and most don't get them. Your average YouTuber is doing around 3.5 or a little higher with the M and 4, 4.1, or a little more with the 60.

Not talking about Goldilocks runs, what average people get when they mash the pedal and see what happens.

They do subtract the 1-ft rollout (so it would be more in line with a typical American manufacture's 0-60 claim). However even adding the 0.2-0.3s back it still seems on the lower end.

[crabman]

It's that way with all their times, they are almost invariably the lowest you'll see from a major outlet and in the real world few people are going to match them.

Don't take my word for it, try scaning YouTuber videos where they get actual manufacturer test cars, most will measure a 0-60 with results that will match what I just wrote. You'll see the random outlier, both faster and slower, but most will hit where I described and be well above the C&D numbers.

[BMPHIL]

Perhaps they do their 0-60 times going down a mountain, all I have seen in UK show M60i at 4.1 and 50E at 4.7.

[BlkGS]

It's also within the realm of possibility that BMW sent them an "extra good" one. Wouldn't be the first time that BMW (or several other automakers) has sent out press cars that inexplicably are way faster than any production car, and when Dyno tested are making sizeable amounts of power more than production ones.

"Pre production software" and all that.

[lsutigers]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I’m aware of the sub 3.5 for the X5MC, but is it closer to 3.0 or 3.5.

I would say average is between the two numbers, probably closer to the 3.5 if we’re splitting hairs…

[smyles]

Did I miss it, or they /conveniently/ omitted the real-life mpg for 50e? I wonder why...

[E91toG05]

Originally Posted by smyles

Did I miss it, or they /conveniently/ omitted the real-life mpg for 50e? I wonder why...

First thing I noticed. Second thing was the relatively small delta in 0-60 between the two models.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by E91toG05

First thing I noticed. Second thing was the relatively small delta in 0-60 between the two models.

4.2 vs 3.8 (with rollout factored in is about 10%.

What's interesting is the M60 is a full second faster to 100, but then only traps 3mph higher. Very odd, there's clearly a LOT more power in the M60i top end, and I'm sure it would obliterate a 50e in a 40 roll type race, but still it's rather odd the way the numbers worked out.

[PunsGalore]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Clearly you forgot to select the $3500 option to put Porsche crests on the seat backs 😛

I kid, but that's the thing with the Porsches, they don't make sense. You buy the Porsche because you want the damn Porsche for some inexplicable reason. And OF COURSE you're gonna option the $7500 body color painted carbon fiber badges.

It makes zero sense to buy a Porsche SUV over a BMW SUV... worse tech, same driving dynamics in 95% of places, while being uglier and more expensive. The 718/911/Taycan is the only Porsche worth buying, otherwise stick to BMW's

[aaaaaaaaaz]

Originally Posted by smyles

Did I miss it, or they /conveniently/ omitted the real-life mpg for 50e? I wonder why...

Judging by their test time for 50e in January, not too hard to guess winter is not a good time for them to achieve the “highest real life mpg among all media outlets”

[bandersen]

Did they say 24MPG on the highway? You new 60 owners seeing that??

[sigmabody]

Off-topic, but I've pretty much stopped reading C&D, after they added interstitial pages/workflow to "detect bots" (really, probably, I suspect, to make their site obnoxious for people who have ad blockers installed). The linked pages, for example, seem impossible to scroll down on after loading (in addition to the obnoxious interstitials).

They clearly do not want people to consume their content, and I am obliging.

[docpowell]

My wife's X6 M60i AVERAGES 22.5mpg. She does little long hwy drives or start stop drives. But we see 25-26 on hwy (at speed or slightly over)

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by sigmabody

Off-topic, but I've pretty much stopped reading C&D, after they added interstitial pages/workflow to "detect bots" (really, probably, I suspect, to make their site obnoxious for people who have ad blockers installed). The linked pages, for example, seem impossible to scroll down on after loading (in addition to the obnoxious interstitials).

They clearly do not want people to consume their content, and I am obliging.

I stopped reading them a while back too. I got tired of their constant "who needs this truck/SUV?" rants and silly complaints. Oh no this 3 row crossover doesn't have the dynamics of a Lotus... No shit, it needs cupholders. Then they started to get VERY political and it just wasn't worth reading anymore.

It unfortunately because a publication that only liked small cars for big cities that I had no interest in, and so their opinions had no value to me.

Ultimately, they lost credibility, the only thing they do worthwhile now is Lightning Lap, and frankly, there's YouTubers that do reviews better than C&D.

[X5MC4ME]

Originally Posted by PunsGalore

It makes zero sense to buy a Porsche SUV over a BMW SUV... worse tech, same driving dynamics in 95% of places, while being uglier and more expensive. The 718/911/Taycan is the only Porsche worth buying, otherwise stick to BMW's

Totally agree and own a 911, Taycan, and X5M. Very happy w all

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