BMW X5
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-29-2007, 02:25 AM   #1
zetaxi165
Second Lieutenant
42
Rep
295
Posts

Drives: '07 e92 335, TiAg
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dubai, UAE

iTrader: (0)

335 vs '05 911 Turbo

Last night, I headed into town to meet up with a few friends.

I live about 20 Km ( 14 miles) out of town. The drive into town (especially on the weekend) is great - a mix of back roads and some highway.

A few minutes into the drive, I recognise 911 headlights coming up on me really fast.

Slip my car into DS and gun it. We are neck and neck most way, and pace each other until we get off the highway.

Arrive at a red light side by side. Its a '05 911 Turbo. Jet Black and pristine and all stock (obviously someone who loves his cars).

We have a quick chat - and he tells me he was really surprised with how a 330 could keep up with him. Of course, I correct him and tell him about the twin turbos.

We decide to drag at green.

BUT, I screw the launch up (basically, my phone rang and I looked down as the light turned green).

I launch about half a second after he does. But I manage to hang on and not let the distance between us increase.

What was surprising was the way the Porsche leaped forward the minute he revved the engine.

At the next traffic light (can't drag since cars in front), he tells me he is gonna have to go test drive the 335 now. - another convert possibly.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 02:36 AM   #2
CaptOz
Captain
CaptOz's Avatar
Australia
31
Rep
833
Posts

Drives: Porsche 911 Carrera S
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia

iTrader: (0)

Sounds like a fun night zetaxi.

I spent some time racing with (and driving) a couple of 911 turbos on the track. They have this amazing acceleration of the mark but I the 335 is not too far off the pace – well with a PROcede anyway. I think it’s a case of a 911 turbo driver being surprised at just how quick our little Bimmers can go.



Cheers.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 02:38 AM   #3
nico335
Guest
0
Rep
n/a
Posts

Drives:


try racing a 997 turbo next time. i guarantee a whole different result
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 05:33 AM   #4
hotrod182
.
hotrod182's Avatar
769
Rep
3,961
Posts

Drives: 2023 i4 M50
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

My first race LACR (German Invasion) was against a red 911 Turbo. I beat him through the 1/4 mile in my bone stock 335i, Steptronic Auto. So yes, it is possible to win a street race against one.
Attached Images
   
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 06:27 AM   #5
zetaxi165
Second Lieutenant
42
Rep
295
Posts

Drives: '07 e92 335, TiAg
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Dubai, UAE

iTrader: (0)

Nice result there Hotrod - Friggin Nice.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 06:37 AM   #6
turbocoins
Captain
turbocoins's Avatar
United_States
18
Rep
749
Posts

Drives: '08 Z06, '07 MKZ
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Warm Climate

iTrader: (0)

Wow. I can't believe I'm reading this. I had an '01 011 turbo with the Upsolute.com chip, 510 hp, 487 tq (crank). That car was so much faster than the 335 i, even with PROcede. The only race I ever lost was to a 650+ whp built corvette with no seats or interior + nitrous (who walked me by a mile and kept pulling at any speed).

Those 911 TTs are just too fast if they have ANY mods at all. I know some of you are great drivers, and we all love the 335 i, but it isn't in the same league as a 911 TT.

BTW--Fantastic driving, Hotrod!!
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:09 AM   #7
0asis
Senior Officer In Charge.
0asis's Avatar
Canada
42
Rep
571
Posts

Drives: G30 540i / Past: F10,E92, E46
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Canada

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by hotrod182 View Post
My first race LACR (German Invasion) was against a red 911 Turbo. I beat him through the 1/4 mile in my bone stock 335i, Steptronic Auto. So yes, it is possible to win a street race against one.
hey hotrod, out of curiosity.. was his turbo tiptronic or manual? i see he reacted faster on the starting line but you had progressively better iterations through the track. he even had a faster avg speed through I3 and you beat him great car but more importantly - better driver.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:21 AM   #8
Tobizach
Female Car Enthusiast
Tobizach's Avatar
United_States
6
Rep
353
Posts

Drives: By the seat of her pants.
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SouthWest

iTrader: (0)

Faster or not Id take a 911 Turbo (993 an up) over ANY BMW anyday of the week. Straight line speed is everything
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:27 AM   #9
elucas730
I'm just here for the turbo
3
Rep
327
Posts

Drives: 2004 STi, 2007 335i
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Apalachin, NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 0asis View Post
hey hotrod, out of curiosity.. was his turbo tiptronic or manual? i see he reacted faster on the starting line but you had progressively better iterations through the track. he even had a faster avg speed through I3 and you beat him great car but more importantly - better driver.
The 911 driver obviously screwed something up. 2.6 second 60' time for an AWD 911 turbo? Something screwy there. Look at the trap speeds 105 for the 911 and 101 for the 335 (both low)...the 911 was reeling him in despite the bad start. Please don't even begin to dream that a 335 is faster than a 911 turbo.
__________________
Current Rides: 2007 BMW 335i Sedan 6MT Montego Blue, 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STi (for sale), 2004 Mazda RX-8 6MT
Fondly Remember: 1988 Porsche 924S, 1992 Mitsu 3000GT SL, 2001 BMW Z3 2.5i
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:46 AM   #10
Driver72
Brigadier General
322
Rep
4,484
Posts

Drives: 335i - to new owners now.
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Yeah, I have a friend with a 996TT that I "car-sat" for 10 days.
He was cool with me driving it.

All I have to say is it will smoke any stock 335i if the driver knows how to drive it.
Prime example of this is the guy who raced HotRod.
Look at his 60 foot time= 2.5 seconds in a 415 hp AWD car?

When driven properly they run 0-60 in low 4's and 1/4 in 12's @ 113-114 mph

A PROceded 335i could stay "close" but still the 996TT could creep away.
They are fast cars, but get out of boost on them and they can bog.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:50 AM   #11
CnoteMD
Commander in Chief
CnoteMD's Avatar
United_States
35
Rep
1,034
Posts

Drives: 2008 BMW 535i
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M5  [0.00]
2006 330i  [0.00]
I've driven a 996 Turbo before and this sounds like a case of a poor driver. The 996 Turbo has similar weight, but an extra 100hp and 100lb-ft of torque over the 335i. I drive a BMW and think they are wonderful cars, but we have to be realistic here, the 996 Turbo is a faster car.
__________________
2008 BMW 535i Space Gray, Black Leather, Dark Bamboo Trim| Sport Automatic with Paddles | Sport Package
2008 BMW M5 (gone, but not forgotten) Space Gray, Silverstone Merino Leather, Madeira Walnut Wood Trim | 7speed SMG | All options
Mods: Corsa Exhaust | RPI Ram Air Intake | H&R Sport Springs | Rogue Engineering 12mm spacers
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 09:58 AM   #12
chromerl
Second Lieutenant
chromerl's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
220
Posts

Drives: B/S 335i
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: T-DOT

iTrader: (0)

I agree, I think we're getting alittle carried away, drove a 911 Turbo and they are amazing cars with great acceleration. Must've been a bad driver in the Porsche

AND, IF the 335i can pace the 911 Turbo, we'll then I guess we can also keep up with the 360 modena HAHA


Last edited by chromerl; 07-29-2007 at 10:30 AM..
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 10:26 AM   #13
GunKata
Something, Something, Something, Dark Side...
GunKata's Avatar
United_States
22
Rep
501
Posts

Drives: 2011 Audi A3 AWD DSG K04'd
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lombard, IL

iTrader: (1)

AWD twin turbo makes that thing jump off the line like that. And yes, agreed that this is a driver vs. driver issue, because based on the cars alone, the TT has a good .5-.7 of a second on the 335i.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 10:30 AM   #14
Seattle135is
Lieutenant
United_States
195
Rep
501
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Seattle/San Antonio/Chicago

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 335i  [0.00]
2005 SL 55 AMg  [0.00]
2007 Porsche 997 Turbo  [0.00]
I have both - 997 Turbo + 335 Pro - the 335 Pro is fast, but the 997TT is in a whole 'nuther league...
Nice to know my 335 Pro has a big brutha in case we get our azzes handed over to us sometime...:rocks:
__________________
2018 R8 V10+ - Ara Blue/Gray
2022 MS Plaid - Red/White (Daily)
2021 Alfa Stelvio - Red/Black
2013 135is - LeMans Blue/Gray
2003 M5 (56k miles) - CB/Black
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 10:34 AM   #15
chromerl
Second Lieutenant
chromerl's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
220
Posts

Drives: B/S 335i
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: T-DOT

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GunKata View Post
AWD twin turbo makes that thing jump off the line like that.
True! Good point, forgot about AWD
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 12:00 PM   #16
technik111
Private First Class
technik111's Avatar
12
Rep
179
Posts

Drives: E92 328i - Delivered 7/24
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Midwest

iTrader: (0)

A 996 or 997 turbo is much faster than a 335, procede or not. If you raced one and beat it, it was serious driver error.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 12:09 PM   #17
mmm def
Colonel
mmm def's Avatar
144
Rep
2,610
Posts

Drives: 21 330, 19 ND2 RF, 11 RX350
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for the laughs..a 335 beating a 996 turbo

Given equal drivers a 996TT should kill a stock 335.

I raced my buddies 997 C4 last night from a roll in 2nd, 2nd was dead even soon as i shifted to 3rd he sowly crept away.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 12:41 PM   #18
logik06g35
Private First Class
logik06g35's Avatar
12
Rep
129
Posts

Drives: g35 6mt, 335i soon, 07 yfz450
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Brooklyn NY

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle335 View Post
I have both - 997 Turbo + 335 Pro - the 335 Pro is fast, but the 997TT is in a whole 'nuther league...
Nice to know my 335 Pro has a big brutha in case we get our azzes handed over to us sometime...:rocks:
this thread is hysterical....some of you 3 series guys really have your heads in the clouds.

The only reason i quoted your post is becasue holy crap you really have a serious car collection.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 01:12 PM   #19
mesier1111
Banned
mesier1111's Avatar
37
Rep
1,626
Posts

Drives: 335i coupe, titanium
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Bucks County, PA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbocoins View Post
Wow. I can't believe I'm reading this. I had an '01 011 turbo with the Upsolute.com chip, 510 hp, 487 tq (crank). That car was so much faster than the 335 i, even with PROcede. The only race I ever lost was to a 650+ whp built corvette with no seats or interior + nitrous (who walked me by a mile and kept pulling at any speed).

Those 911 TTs are just too fast if they have ANY mods at all. I know some of you are great drivers, and we all love the 335 i, but it isn't in the same league as a 911 TT.

BTW--Fantastic driving, Hotrod!!
+1
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 02:21 PM   #20
Tag
this is the way
Tag's Avatar
17936
Rep
8,459
Posts

Drives: N-1 starfighter
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

This was a nice read, but BMW convert? I can't imagine going from a Porsche to a Bimmer. I would take a 911 Turbo over a 335i any day. Not saying the 335i is not a great car; just that if you've got the $$$ 911 all the way.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 02:31 PM   #21
BMW F22
Major General
BMW F22's Avatar
United_States
3540
Rep
9,785
Posts

Drives: ///M235i
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bay Area

iTrader: (8)

I wish I had a Porsche Turbo. That car is so freaking fast and sexy it's not even funny.
Appreciate 0
      07-29-2007, 03:01 PM   #22
vbb
Captain
vbb's Avatar
1719
Rep
912
Posts

Drives: 2022 M4 manual
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: present

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Driver72 View Post

All I have to say is it will smoke any stock 335i if the driver knows how to drive it.
Prime example of this is the guy who raced HotRod.
Look at his 60 foot time= 2.5 seconds in a 415 hp AWD car?

When driven properly they run 0-60 in low 4's and 1/4 in 12's @ 113-114 mph

Yeah, that 2.5 second 60' time he pulled has everything to do with the result of that race. I was pulling 2.0 60' times in a stock S2000 and running 14 flat at 102mph in the quartermile... you mean to tell me that my S2000 is faster than the Porsche as well? Ha, yeah right. If any of you guys have been to a drag strip you're going to see cars running seconds away from the times they should be putting down b/c of bad track conditions, bad drivers, or both.

The 335i is a great car, but let's not get carried away.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:14 AM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST