09-21-2022, 04:27 PM | #1 |
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Was wondering the average cost and quote for electrician to install a Tesla Level 2 or any charger. I had someone come by today but they were looking to charge 2900-3000 to hardline the wire into the garage from basement. Is that normal cost? Is there any alternative ways besides hard lining it or is this the only way to finish charging 5-8 hours ?
Looking to charge my x5 45e from the outside of the garage. Is there a way I could just buy a charge point home and plug it into regular 4 outlet and upgrade the electric panel for it will charge level 2? Or does it need to be hardwired from electrical panel ? |
09-21-2022, 04:35 PM | #2 |
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Materials around the country are fairly consistent, but labor is not. The length of the run, and how difficult it will be to execute can vary radically, so without knowing how far, the size, and how much fishing of wires and potential repair of drywall, etc., needed along the way, that could be normal. The bigger the EVSE, the larger the wire, and larger wire is more difficult to run. PLus, depending on your current service, the whole thing, wiring from the pole, the panel, and the new run can add significant costs.
To maximize the charging on the 45e, at least for now, is a 240vac/20A circuit (you have to apply the 80% rule, which would allow the 16A needed to max out the X5). Now, the next vehicle you may buy will likely have a bigger internal charger, so a bigger EVSE now makes sense. |
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09-21-2022, 04:36 PM | #3 |
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Going to depend on how far from the panel you are looking to run. It can easily be $1500-2000 for install. That seems a bit high, but not sure how far that run is.
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Depends on the location. I am in north NJ, a HCOL area, and I paid ~$2K to run a line from my basement to my garage, hardwired.
My utility company offers a $1500 rebate for a charger installation so I am sure the electricians are taking this into account to jack up the prices, but such is life. Get a bunch of quotes before you make a decision. |
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SF Bay area here, my panel is 100ft from where I need EVSE. 50A circuit, my material cost (mainly wires, then conduits ) is about $1000 back in June, labor cost $1500-$2000. Total $2500-$3000. I ended up not doing this. Instead I shared dryer circuit, which is already in garage.
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09-21-2022, 10:11 PM | #8 |
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09-21-2022, 10:16 PM | #9 |
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FWIW, while maybe not wise (I'd dealt with that company before), I paid time and materials, and, for my fairly simple install, it was fairly inexpensive.
When you don't know if there will be complications, it can be better to get a firm quote for the work. Each situation can be different, so you can decide which path to take. Heavy gauge copper is not cheap these days, and something like 6ga wire for the three leads can be $5/foot, so a 100' run could cost $500 just for the wire, then you'll have fasteners, boxes, circuit breaker, maybe a socket and disconnect, and maybe conduit and maybe a bunch of drywall and painting repairs along the way. Mine took about twenty feet of conduit to get across the garage to where I wanted the EVSE mounted...it would have been cheaper to put it right next to the panel, but was not my preferred location. |
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09-21-2022, 10:26 PM | #10 |
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My garage is about 100 ft away from the basement ( electric panel ) so a lot of work would need to be done in probably a small amount of time. I'll keep you updated
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I was able to order the juice box 40 for $150 + tax a couple of months ago from PSEG. I’m debating whether to install it in the garage or outside as my garage is too small to fit the 45e. I’m also interested to see how much it will cost here on LI to install from basement to garage/external wall; both are on opposite site of the house.
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1) Tesla V3 L2 EVSE is NOT smart. Not that it is important, but if you are paying that much, there are better featured EVSE. 2) You will need a Tesla to J1772 adaptor to charge 45e. This itself is like $150. If you own both Tesla and non Tesla, standard EVSE may still be the way to go because Tesla include the J1772 to Tesla adaptor already, so you don't need spend on it.
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I’m on my second L2 charger because I’ve had PHEV for 10 years and now have 2. So sold the original and bought a 2 car charger unit. Original install was around $600 but my main panel if just on the other side of the garage wall. When I got the second charger I wanted it moved from where the first was, around to another wall. Paid amount $600 for that work (basically just running conduit and wire about 30 feet around the garage).
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Installed two L2 chargers just over a year ago now. The biggest factor in the labour cost (approx 3000euro - not including cost of the boxes) was the length of run back to our main board which was 50meters +. This was why we installed two at the time.
The chargers can charge faster than the cars will allow but the convenience of plugging them both in at night time and having them both fully charged in the morning is great - and we are future proofed. |
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For about a 30ft run from the panel to the installation point in my garage, I will be paying just shy of $1500. Extrapolating it to 100 ft for your situation, your quote doesn't seem that far out of line.
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Just another data point, my install was $750 - approx $300 for labor (total of 2 hours for 2 people) and $400 for parts. Besides the wire (approx 50’) they had to put in a GFI 50a circuit ($$$). My electrical box had adequate room and they didn’t need to run conduit on any of the wiring.
You might try to find a contractor to give you a reference for a electrician - while the work is fairly easy, getting an electrician to not rip you off is difficult (been there, paid too much). If I didn’t have a good electrician (finally), I’d seriously consider a good handyman plus the electrical inspection that is required in our area. |
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I would shop around for sure! I mean, you don't want to cut corners with Electrical, but seems like a very high price unless your panel needs major updated. It's not a hard job and for someone with experience it should be quick. Did you quote INCLUDE the latest Chargepoint/Juicebox Charger?!
I'm in the SF area, now my main panel is directly on outside of garage (so it was like 10 feel of line), I hired an old school but licenced local electrician; he put a new 50 amp in my panel, ran appropriate guage wire and installed dryer style box on the inside of garage; all for like $350. I then plugged in my CHargepoint and hung it on wall. When calling around, just say you need a 240v dryer style outlet installed in garage...I think they all hear EV and upcharge. You can upgrade to a 15amp 110 outlet and get a better charger and it will charge fully overnight (11 hrs vs 5.5hrs for example). |
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I am in DC metro area.
I got my 240v circuit done for $900. My panel box is in the basement, took quite a lot of work to fish super thick wires in the walls into the garage ceiling then down on the garage wall. Cut a few holes and patch up. Everything is hidden, did a fantastic job. Installed my ChargePoint Home Flex as well. You may also get credit from your power company or state. |
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I'm going to bite the bullet at do 2750$ (2640) negotiated. They already charged 110$ to look at my place first as consultation fee that they repay once you install . 600$ for thick electric cable and $900 for "other parts"and about $1250 for installation from 100ft distance to basement. -.- I guess it'll pay itself off after a year. ($220 for 12 months )
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09-22-2022, 11:08 PM | #22 |
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Installation was estimated to cost $2500 plus $500 for an L2 charger.
In my situation, driving exclusively on electricity saves me $0.07 compared to driving on gas, so I would need to drive a little bit more than 40,000 miles to recoup the installation costs. I bailed out.. |
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