Why no 3rd Row Option for m50i

Scotch_Rye · 08-19-2020, 09:10 PM

Just why?

As I see a lot of customers would take that option?

VTENGR · 08-19-2020, 09:27 PM

Maybe they can't fit the M Sport differential under where the 3rd row goes?

Scotch_Rye · 08-19-2020, 09:34 PM

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Maybe they can't fit the M Sport differential under where the 3rd row goes?

Good thought. Is it much larger than standard ?

BeeMdblU · 08-19-2020, 09:43 PM

because of the X7, if a third row is something you want in a BMW get it in style.

TurtleBoy · 08-19-2020, 09:44 PM

My guess is that is was a fairly unpopular option so they decided not to offer it on the M50i.

Scotch_Rye · 08-19-2020, 09:46 PM

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My guess is that is was a fairly unpopular option so they decided not to offer it on the M50i.

Not even an option last year on 50i.

VTENGR · 08-19-2020, 09:49 PM

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Maybe they can't fit the M Sport differential under where the 3rd row goes?

Good thought. Is it much larger than standard ?

No idea. Just a wild ass guess. I know for other engines you need air suspension to get the 3rd row so I was thinking that maybe air plus M diff occupies some of the same space the folded down 3rd row would.

Scotch_Rye · 08-19-2020, 09:52 PM

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Maybe they can't fit the M Sport differential under where the 3rd row goes?

Good thought. Is it much larger than standard ?

No idea. Just a wild ass guess. I know for other engines you need air suspension to get the 3rd row so I was thinking that maybe air plus M diff occupies some of the same space the folded down 3rd row would.

Very good thought. Yes I would guess that also. Just too bad really as I know I would love it when alone then do a Clark Kent when family and kids in car for trip.

VTENGR · 08-19-2020, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by VTENGR

Maybe they can't fit the M Sport differential under where the 3rd row goes?

Good thought. Is it much larger than standard ?

No idea. Just a wild ass guess. I know for other engines you need air suspension to get the 3rd row so I was thinking that maybe air plus M diff occupies some of the same space the folded down 3rd row would.

Very good thought. Yes I would guess that also. Just too bad really as I know I would love it when alone then do a Clark Kent when family and kids in car for trip.

X7 M50i is your friend then

sward · 08-20-2020, 03:34 AM

X5 M50d has 3rd row. Why not M50i???

zhangyi17 · 08-20-2020, 06:23 AM

I think very few ppl with 40i will choose 3rd row seat (I know there are few on this forum did, but that's minority), not to mention 50i and/or m50i. I remember previous Toyota RAV4 had offered 3rd row in one of the trim levels as well. But the point was to move to the bigger Highlander if you really want the 3rd row seat. In BMW case, get the X7 for the extra room

ND40oz · 08-21-2020, 05:18 AM

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I think very few ppl with 40i will choose 3rd row seat (I know there are few on this forum did, but that's minority), not to mention 50i and/or m50i. I remember previous Toyota RAV4 had offered 3rd row in one of the trim levels as well. But the point was to move to the bigger Highlander if you really want the 3rd row seat. In BMW case, get the X7 for the extra room

The strange thing is, other markets get the 3rd row option in more than just the base engine variant. In Europe both the M50d and the older 50i had the third row option. Since they offer the air suspension on the M50i, it's not like it is with the X5M not getting the 3rd row due to the suspension requirements.

Also, it can't be the M Sport Differential in the M50i causing the issue. The 2019 X5 40i was configurable with ZOR (Off-road Package) and 4UB (3rd Row Seat). The Off-road Package included 2T4 (M Sport Differential). The only limitation was you couldn't order 2VH (Integral Active Steering) with ZOR and 4UB. 2VH is not required on the M50i either, so that cannot be the reason they're not offering the 3rd row.

It's definitely appears to be a marketing decision and not a technical limitation as to why they don't allow you to order 4UB on the M50i.

Unit · 08-21-2020, 09:01 AM

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X5 M50d has 3rd row. Why not M50i???

Because the M50d is a diesel school run wagon dressing up as a performance car

Seriously though it’ll be a demand thing. The M50i is the M lite so likewise doesn’t have a spare tyre either. The vast majority of buyers buy the M50i for the blend of X5M performance and luxury not to lug a troop of kids so BMW probably don’t see it as a worthwhile option to offer.

TurtleBoy · 08-21-2020, 01:22 PM

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Because the M50d is a diesel school run wagon dressing up as a performance car

Seriously though it’ll be a demand thing. The M50i is the M lite so likewise doesn’t have a spare tyre either. The vast majority of buyers buy the M50i for the blend of X5M performance and luxury not to lug a troop of kids so BMW probably don’t see it as a worthwhile option to offer.

Like other X5s in the US, the spare tire is an option for the M50i.

VTENGR · 08-21-2020, 02:47 PM

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Because the M50d is a diesel school run wagon dressing up as a performance car

Seriously though it’ll be a demand thing. The M50i is the M lite so likewise doesn’t have a spare tyre either. The vast majority of buyers buy the M50i for the blend of X5M performance and luxury not to lug a troop of kids so BMW probably don’t see it as a worthwhile option to offer.

Like other X5s in the US, the spare tire is an option for the M50i.

Not even an option of you get 22" wheels, it's required.

Unit · 08-21-2020, 02:53 PM

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Not even an option of you get 22" wheels, it's required.

In the U.K. it’s not on the car at all. Certainly not on mine with 22”s.

Zethii · 08-21-2020, 04:40 PM

Does M50i come with IAS standard? AFIAK third seat row and Integral Active Steering never combines.....

hksr · 08-21-2020, 05:32 PM

It's kinda weird how options are not permitted with the 3rd row option selected. For example, in Canada, you can't have any of the 22" wheels with the 3rd row option.

Honestly, if I were to spend the money on an M50i and needed a 3rd row, I would move into an X7.

Osheatwo · 08-21-2020, 06:04 PM

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Does M50i come with IAS standard? AFIAK third seat row and Integral Active Steering never combines.....

IAS is not standard on the M50i. It also doesn't come separate. You have to get Air Suspension or DHP package to IAS. Hope this helps

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