11/2020

Dex05 · 12-15-2020, 05:01 PM

Just got the 11/2020.42 update and I actually lost the option to turn steering wheel heating OFF or ON based on temp. Had it in 7/2020. It was in climate rules and now gone.

Tried 30 second iDrive reboot but didn't help. Any thought?

TurtleBoy · 12-15-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex05

Just got the 11/2020.42 update and I actually lost the option to turn steering wheel heating OFF or ON based on temp. Had it in 7/2020. It was in climate rules and now gone.

Tried 30 second iDrive reboot but didn't help. Any thought?

Other members have reported that the option for steering wheel heating has been removed from the climate rules.

Some are reporting a feature called automate habit which can, or may, handle it.

Dex05 · 12-15-2020, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Other members have reported that the option for steering wheel heating has been removed from the climate rules.

Some are reporting a feature called automate habit which can, or may, handle it.

It seems it was removed from both automate habit as well as climate rules.

TurtleBoy · 12-15-2020, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dex05

It seems it was removed from both automate habit as well as climate rules.

So much for that idea.

jad03060 · 12-15-2020, 06:11 PM

Are people getting the 11/2020 update OTA, or only at their dealers? I got 07/2020 a few weeks ago, long after they have been seeing the November updates from the factory and many dealers. Just curious...

LexxM3 · 12-15-2020, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jad03060

Are people getting the 11/2020 update OTA, or only at their dealers? I got 07/2020 a few weeks ago, long after they have been seeing the November updates from the factory and many dealers. Just curious...

11/2020.xx is definitely dealer only at this time. If BMW is going to eventually release 11/2020.xx OTA, it is likely to start that in March 2021 plus or minus.

X5 45e · 12-16-2020, 12:16 AM

11/2020 was done at the dealer.

Steering wheel pre-heating is gone in climate rules etc.

It still heats on pre-conditioning with the 45e.

I think having read someone with OTA 07/2020 also reported having lost the steering wheel pre-heating. Possibly due to an OTA of the automatization app itself.

zmm12345 · 12-16-2020, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

11/2020 was done at the dealer.

Steering wheel pre-heating is gone in climate rules etc.

It still heats on pre-conditioning with the 45e.

I think having read someone with OTA 07/2020 also reported having lost the steering wheel pre-heating. Possibly due to an OTA of the automatization app itself.

I lost my option as well, but it still seems to preheat it anyway

Maybe it is now part of the seat rule?

X5 45e · 12-16-2020, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by zmm12345

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

11/2020 was done at the dealer.

Steering wheel pre-heating is gone in climate rules etc.

It still heats on pre-conditioning with the 45e.

I think having read someone with OTA 07/2020 also reported having lost the steering wheel pre-heating. Possibly due to an OTA of the automatization app itself.

I lost my option as well, but it still seems to preheat it anyway

Maybe it is now part of the seat rule?

No I thought that it might do that but it doesn't.

When seat heating switches on below 10 Celsius the steering wheel doesn't. So they are not coupled.

But like mentioned on pre conditioning it still does.

KrisV · 12-30-2020, 07:00 PM

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

X5 45e · 12-30-2020, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisV

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

45e here. Lost it as well.

Just checked yesterday and it didn't come back.

ramparts · 12-31-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

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Originally Posted by KrisV

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

45e here. Lost it as well.

Just checked yesterday and it didn't come back.

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

ifr · 12-31-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

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Originally Posted by KrisV

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

45e here. Lost it as well.

Just checked yesterday and it didn't come back.

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

I've got that option with iOS 13.4 so it's not the iOS version.

Kamranlpr2 · 12-31-2020, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ifr

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

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Originally Posted by KrisV

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

45e here. Lost it as well.

Just checked yesterday and it didn't come back.

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

I've got that option with iOS 13.4 so it's not the iOS version.

So this option is part of 11/20?

ramparts · 12-31-2020, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamranlpr2

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Originally Posted by ifr

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

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Originally Posted by X5 45e

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Originally Posted by KrisV

I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.

45e here. Lost it as well.

Just checked yesterday and it didn't come back.

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

I've got that option with iOS 13.4 so it's not the iOS version.

So this option is part of 11/20?

I've never seen it before ! It might be there and I've not noticed it of course, but I did see a pop up about it come up after the ilevel update

Silver.Solid · 12-31-2020, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ifr

Dealers now use ISTA+ with a 'large' programming data set that covers almost all model of recent vehicles. This is made available for download to local dealerships on an unknown prioritised schedule.

ISTA+ (app, diagnostic databases, programming data) can be updated with delta files or as a whole.

ISTA+ assess the car's current i-step and FA to determine what modules need to be programmed. It then produces a 'plan' to:
1) Program the target ECUs
2) Code the programmed ECUs against the FA, sometimes non-programmed ECU are coded too
3) Import any needed FSC
4) Perform a number of reset and post programming diagnostic checks

what files do i need to update on my ISTA+ to be able to perform the 11/2020 update?

I feel the steering has become too light since upgrading to 07/2020.

ramparts · 01-01-2021, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver.Solid

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Originally Posted by ifr

Dealers now use ISTA+ with a 'large' programming data set that covers almost all model of recent vehicles. This is made available for download to local dealerships on an unknown prioritised schedule.

ISTA+ (app, diagnostic databases, programming data) can be updated with delta files or as a whole.

ISTA+ assess the car's current i-step and FA to determine what modules need to be programmed. It then produces a 'plan' to:
1) Program the target ECUs
2) Code the programmed ECUs against the FA, sometimes non-programmed ECU are coded too
3) Import any needed FSC
4) Perform a number of reset and post programming diagnostic checks

what files do i need to update on my ISTA+ to be able to perform the 11/2020 update?

I feel the steering has become too light since upgrading to 07/2020.

4.27.2x

ifr · 01-01-2021, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver.Solid

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Originally Posted by ifr

Dealers now use ISTA+ with a 'large' programming data set that covers almost all model of recent vehicles. This is made available for download to local dealerships on an unknown prioritised schedule.

ISTA+ (app, diagnostic databases, programming data) can be updated with delta files or as a whole.

ISTA+ assess the car's current i-step and FA to determine what modules need to be programmed. It then produces a 'plan' to:
1) Program the target ECUs
2) Code the programmed ECUs against the FA, sometimes non-programmed ECU are coded too
3) Import any needed FSC
4) Perform a number of reset and post programming diagnostic checks

what files do i need to update on my ISTA+ to be able to perform the 11/2020 update?

I feel the steering has become too light since upgrading to 07/2020.

4.27.20 is the latest programming data to take you to istep 11/2020.42

Car tech forum has the files (sedoy sticky) but don't think his installer allows Ethernet cable without a configuration change

ramparts · 01-01-2021, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ifr

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Originally Posted by Silver.Solid

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Originally Posted by ifr

Dealers now use ISTA+ with a 'large' programming data set that covers almost all model of recent vehicles. This is made available for download to local dealerships on an unknown prioritised schedule.

ISTA+ (app, diagnostic databases, programming data) can be updated with delta files or as a whole.

ISTA+ assess the car's current i-step and FA to determine what modules need to be programmed. It then produces a 'plan' to:
1) Program the target ECUs
2) Code the programmed ECUs against the FA, sometimes non-programmed ECU are coded too
3) Import any needed FSC
4) Perform a number of reset and post programming diagnostic checks

what files do i need to update on my ISTA+ to be able to perform the 11/2020 update?

I feel the steering has become too light since upgrading to 07/2020.

4.27.20 is the latest programming data to take you to istep 11/2020.42

Car tech forum has the files (sedoy sticky) but don't think his installer allows Ethernet cable without a configuration change

It's only 1 line you need to change to make it work

Though I feel esys is better for programming, then sits for any post update things

Silver.Solid · 01-01-2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ifr

4.27.20 is the latest programming data to take you to istep 11/2020.42

Car tech forum has the files (sedoy sticky) but don't think his installer allows Ethernet cable without a configuration change

thanks. I was really hoping all i needed were to replace some data files in the background and that would be it.

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

It's only 1 line you need to change to make it work

Though I feel esys is better for programming, then sits for any post update things

Do you mind sharing, it would be very useful to update the software since Connected drive is blocked in my region and dealer will not do it.

JonnyCrash · 01-01-2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

Ok, cool, but what does this actually mean? Anyone with the option able to figure out what this option does?

ramparts · 01-01-2021, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JonnyCrash

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Originally Posted by davidoff86

Not sure if it's a 11/2020 or an iOS 14.3 thing, but I have this new "enhanced" option now for CarPlay

Ok, cool, but what does this actually mean? Anyone with the option able to figure out what this option does?

I've asked on the mac forum. All I know is that it's super smooth and no pairing issues

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Dex05 Private First Class 29 Rep 135 Posts Drives: BMW X5 2019 - White/Beige Join Date: May 2019 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0)	Just got the 11/2020.42 update and I actually lost the option to turn steering wheel heating OFF or ON based on temp. Had it in 7/2020. It was in climate rules and now gone. Tried 30 second iDrive reboot but didn't help. Any thought? __________________ BMW X5 2019 - Software version 03/2021.36 Mineral White on Canberra Beige + Walknappa Leather Dashboard
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jad03060 Major General 3166 Rep 6,806 Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0)	Are people getting the 11/2020 update OTA, or only at their dealers? I got 07/2020 a few weeks ago, long after they have been seeing the November updates from the factory and many dealers. Just curious...
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X5 45e Colonel 1091 Rep 2,420 Posts Drives: BMW X5 45e Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Belgium iTrader: (0)	11/2020 was done at the dealer. Steering wheel pre-heating is gone in climate rules etc. It still heats on pre-conditioning with the 45e. I think having read someone with OTA 07/2020 also reported having lost the steering wheel pre-heating. Possibly due to an OTA of the automatization app itself.
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KrisV Second Lieutenant 210 Rep 282 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW X5 M Competition Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Delaware iTrader: (0) Garage List 2024 BMW X5 M Compe ... [0.00]	I just jumped from 7/2020.54 to 11/2020.36 and mine has lost the option as well. Dealer installed update. looks like 45e models have not been affected.
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