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      04-12-2019, 04:56 PM   #45
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But I still think it's shocking to see the neutered DRL's if you don't get the Lasers.
This is nothing new. BMW has always used different designs for different specs headlight. And there are still many BMW models in Europe with Halogen headlights with light bulbs DRL.
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      04-12-2019, 04:57 PM   #46
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In Canada was part of a package so had no choice but to get it. But cool feature regardless.

From the manual.

Laser high beams Concept
The range of the high beams is increased and ensures an even better illumination of the road.
General information
When the high beams are switched-on, starting with a speed of approx. 37 mph/60 km/h, the la‐ ser high beams in the headlight are automatically switched on in addition to the LED high beams.

Depending on the country variant, further infor‐ mation can be obtained from the laser label on the headlight.
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Even with the lights off the appearance of the X5 with the Laserlight is nicer so you are basically paying $1,000 for looks!
Absolutely! That's the exact reason why I ordered the Iconic Adaptive LEDs for my X3 - for the looks.
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Correct me if Iím wrong but Iím most certain cornering lights only come with the laser option.
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Correct me if Iím wrong but Iím most certain cornering lights only come with the laser option.
In the US that seems to correct but some other countries have them in the non-laser lights it appears.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm most certain cornering lights only come with the laser option.
Correct.

Was at the dealer having my F15 serviced. Checked out a M Sport with standard LEDs - no cornering lights:
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And there are those bargain bin DRL's again. Sorry just gets me every time I see them. Real affront to the brand.
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And there are those bargain bin DRL's again. Sorry just gets me every time I see them. Real affront to the brand.
I agree. They started charging extra $1K for Icon Adaptive full LED headlights and DRLs with the new 5 and hasn't stopped since.

5er - standard angel halo DRL
X3 - standard angel halo DRL
X5 - half halo DRL (WTF)
X7 - Icon DRL standard
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No offense to the OP but the pictures aren't accurate to what the lasers can or cannot do. Reason I say that is because in fog, high beam is worse and will get reflected by the fog causing glare and won't travel nearly as far. Fog lights (usually beamed low, as well as low beams, travel farther in fog due to their height / angle.

https://info.kaltire.com/high-beams-...ng-conditions/
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No offense to the OP but the pictures aren't accurate to what the lasers can or cannot do. Reason I say that is because in fog, high beam is worse and will get reflected by the fog causing glare and won't travel nearly as far. Fog lights (usually beamed low, as well as low beams, travel farther in fog due to their height / angle.

https://info.kaltire.com/high-beams-...ng-conditions/
The OP's photos look to me as though there is some fog.

While fog does diminish the intensity of light, I don't believe the article applies very well to this technology implementation. The laser high beams augment the LED high beams by creating a tightly focused cylinder of light focused out to about 600 meters (going from memory). Traditional headlights are not as well focused as the light coming off the laser, and in that case the glare off the fog in front of the car will diminish the driver's ability to see the road.

But as with most things in life, your mileage may vary.
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Alright guys it was very foggy this morning so I was able to capture an image if just high beams then the lasers. What's nice is how easy they are to distinguish when the weather gets bad. Sorry for the shitty quality pics. It was dark, foggy and I was of course driving
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Picture 1 with the streetlight shows lasers on

Picture 2 is LED high beam
full resolution images (still not super great quality as mentioned https://photos.app.goo.gl/43uWT9R27yBwGBzf7 )
A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
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No offense to the OP but the pictures aren't accurate to what the lasers can or cannot do. Reason I say that is because in fog, high beam is worse and will get reflected by the fog causing glare and won't travel nearly as far. Fog lights (usually beamed low, as well as low beams, travel farther in fog due to their height / angle.

https://info.kaltire.com/high-beams-...ng-conditions/
None taken, I posted those to show that they work and go further than high beams nothing more. Obviously lower lights work better (this was not the point of my post whatsoever).
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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
37mph actually, and my point was to show the actual path of light nothing more. Where are you guys getting this craziness from about my post? I never intended for it to show their true potential only that yes they work and go further in a more direct manner
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Mine cornering lights are not working either
I do have Laser lights and I can't wait until someone can decode them. Looks like they have Fusi lock.
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Mine cornering lights are not working either
I do have Laser lights and I can't wait until someone can decode them. Looks like they have Fusi lock.
Fusi lock? Cornering lights can be fixed by your dealer, mine were
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Mine cornering lights are not working either
I do have Laser lights and I can't wait until someone can decode them. Looks like they have Fusi lock.
Fusi lock? Cornering lights can be fixed by your dealer, mine were
I think I need new software for cornering light.
2 different guys that decode mine M3/4 and M5 said that it has Fusi lock. Basically you can't decode ( anti dazzle ) like I did on mine F90 M5
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None taken, I posted those to show that they work and go further than high beams nothing more. Obviously lower lights work better (this was not the point of my post whatsoever).
Yea it wasn't a direct response to you, the title of this thread was laser lights US in action, but I guess the title on the main page of bimmerpost regarding this post (which brought me here) was Laser light Vs standard. Just wanted to clarify it to people that the glare is due to the fog as well, not a piss poor laser headlight. I am sure the Lasers are beautiful, bright, and awesome. Had there been no fog, the results probably would've been drastic (not that I would know).
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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I need to revisit the high beam/laser lights again tonight! On another thread i posted, my high beam was so bright i thought my laser kicked on! its similar to the photos you provide, but I wasnt going 37mph. i swear it lid up the dark street. I was driving alone, so didnt want to try to take pics.
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None taken, I posted those to show that they work and go further than high beams nothing more. Obviously lower lights work better (this was not the point of my post whatsoever).
Yea it wasn't a direct response to you, the title of this thread was laser lights US in action, but I guess the title on the main page of bimmerpost regarding this post (which brought me here) was Laser light Vs standard. Just wanted to clarify it to people that the glare is due to the fog as well, not a piss poor laser headlight. I am sure the Lasers are beautiful, bright, and awesome. Had there been no fog, the results probably would've been drastic (not that I would know).
Fair enough, I honestly had no idea it made front page!

The real reason I made this OP is because people were saying the lights never turned on or worked so I wanted to show they did. It's very hard to capture them in use on the road due to the speed requirement + no cars around. The lights make a huge difference and will be a requirement when I buy another BMW
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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I need to revisit the high beam/laser lights again tonight! On another thread i posted, my high beam was so bright i thought my laser kicked on! its similar to the photos you provide, but I wasnt going 37mph. i swear it lid up the dark street. I was driving alone, so didnt want to try to take pics.
In previous years it was 45mph and I had read nothing that made me think it changed in the USA. But who knows. I was going to retrofit a set last year into a USA F30 335i but after seeing the BMW video from which I made the screenshots, combined with them only working over 45mph, I decided it was too expensive to experiment with for the results considering the used prices on eBay.

Obviously the price has now dropped considerably and ordering on a new car may now make sense.

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
37mph actually, and my point was to show the actual path of light nothing more. Where are you guys getting this craziness from about my post? I never intended for it to show their true potential only that yes they work and go further in a more direct manner

Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

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Sounds like laser only activates in some conditions when using high beams. If so, likely would not be used (much) in all city driving? We have street lighting pretty much everywhere here.
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I must admit I have been a light technology fan since HID came to market. I even retrofit many high power 50w ballast HID systems back in the day on my Audi’s with the factory HID system. The famed BMW “halo” was the most signature lighting element of any manufacture. We went to LED yet some of the executions of LED were not as effective as a good HID projector system. Now we are into the 4th gen LED systems with the introduction of Laser high beams. A Laser system is measured 1000 times more powerful than a LED system but after reflection gives it a real world 4 times brighter than the top LED system. This reduction is done on purpose. The Laser system is so bright that it has to be tamed even for European roads. For the US, it has to be tamed even more by when and how it can be activated. Laser lights are the future of head lights and we will eventually see a complete laser headlight system for both low and high beams much like what they did with using halogen for low beams and HID for high beams.

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