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Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

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I don't think that is correct. Everything we have seen says the laser lights for the X5 kick on at 37 mph.

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Lasers definitely brighter and quite a bit more distance. Very nice euro spec would be better?
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So explain something to me. I have a US spec 2016 F80 with car and LED lights coded to euro standards. They are awesome. The single best feature. I think they add a huge level of safety at night. Basically driving with great high beams with holes poked on other cars not to blind them.

So if I get a new BMW such as an M5 with laser lights and do no coding, How would that compare with my 2016 F80 with coded LED?
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So explain something to me. I have a US spec 2016 F80 with car and LED lights coded to euro standards. They are awesome. The single best feature. I think they add a huge level of safety at night.

So if I get a new BMW such as an M5 with laser lights and do no coding, How would that compare with my 2016 F80 with codes LED?
4 times brighter but the beam pattern and accuracy are significantly better. The actual source of the laser light is significantly brighter.
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So explain something to me. I have a US spec 2016 F80 with car and LED lights coded to euro standards. They are awesome. The single best feature. I think they add a huge level of safety at night. Basically driving with great high beams with holes poked on other cars not to blind them.

So if I get a new BMW such as an M5 with laser lights and do no coding, How would that compare with my 2016 F80 with coded LED?
The F90 M5 doesn't have a laser light option so no you can't. The next generation M5 will in a few years. No one can come US laser lights yet unfortunately. I hope they get approved for full functionality soon. In their current form, laser lights still make a huge difference in normal usage.

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Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

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I don't think that is correct. Everything we have seen says the laser lights for the X5 kick on at 37 mph.

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I need to revisit the high beam/laser lights again tonight! On another thread i posted, my high beam was so bright i thought my laser kicked on! its similar to the photos you provide, but I wasnt going 37mph. i swear it lid up the dark street. I was driving alone, so didnt want to try to take pics.

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
37mph actually, and my point was to show the actual path of light nothing more. Where are you guys getting this craziness from about my post? I never intended for it to show their true potential only that yes they work and go further in a more direct manner

Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

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see what someone else posted above. It's definitely 37mph ,you can see the difference.
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Sounds like laser only activates in some conditions when using high beams. If so, likely would not be used (much) in all city driving? We have street lighting pretty much everywhere here.
That's the reason I did not chose to try and modify an overseas pair a year or so ago.
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So explain something to me. I have a US spec 2016 F80 with car and LED lights coded to euro standards. They are awesome. The single best feature. I think they add a huge level of safety at night. Basically driving with great high beams with holes poked on other cars not to blind them.

So if I get a new BMW such as an M5 with laser lights and do no coding, How would that compare with my 2016 F80 with coded LED?
The F90 M5 doesn't have a laser light option so no you can't. The next generation M5 will in a few years. No one can come US laser lights yet unfortunately. I hope they get approved for full functionality soon. In their current form, laser lights still make a huge difference in normal usage.

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Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

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I don't think that is correct. Everything we have seen says the laser lights for the X5 kick on at 37 mph.

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I need to revisit the high beam/laser lights again tonight! On another thread i posted, my high beam was so bright i thought my laser kicked on! its similar to the photos you provide, but I wasnt going 37mph. i swear it lid up the dark street. I was driving alone, so didnt want to try to take pics.

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
37mph actually, and my point was to show the actual path of light nothing more. Where are you guys getting this craziness from about my post? I never intended for it to show their true potential only that yes they work and go further in a more direct manner

Rest of world is 45mph according to BMW Video on the lights. Not saying you are incorrect, but what is your source out of curiosity?

Thanks.

see what someone else posted above. It's definitely 37mph ,you can see the difference.
If I believed everything posted on forum......

Well anyway. Just like post above you quoted that states they laserlights were not approved in USA.

Regardless, if it's in manual, that's conformation enough.
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Well anyway. Just like post above you quoted that states they laserlights were not approved in USA.

Regardless, if it's in manual, that's conformation enough.
What? are you serious? They 100% work but in a lesser way. There's no anti-dazzle and the output is slightly less. Regardless the laser lights shine further and are brighter than normal Full LED headlights. This isn't some made up 'forum stuff' if I had a proper was to record it at night and show the functionality I would've done so.
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How is the lume and function of the BMW Laser lights even debatable? It’s well documented how much brighter they are even in their US spec.
It is a superior lighting system and the future of automotive headlights.
The value of a brighter more focused headlight or not is left to the comsumer.

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Well anyway. Just like post above you quoted that states they laserlights were not approved in USA.

Regardless, if it's in manual, that's conformation enough.
What? are you serious? They 100% work but in a lesser way. There's no anti-dazzle and the output is slightly less. Regardless the laser lights shine further and are brighter than normal Full LED headlights. This isn't some made up 'forum stuff' if I had a proper was to record it at night and show the functionality I would've done so.
You better reread what I referenced.

If everything people on forum are swearing by were true, most n55 owners would have already moved in mass to the B58 HPFP retrofit. As it is, now only the cheap ricers of last decade who have now moved to BMWs attempted this folly.
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How is the lume and function of the BMW Laser lights even debatable? It's well documented how much brighter they are even in their US spec.
It is a superior lighting system and the future of automotive headlights.
The value of a brighter more focused headlight or not is left to the comsumer.
You two clearly need to reread sober.

No one made the point you are arguing.
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How is the lume and function of the BMW Laser lights even debatable? It's well documented how much brighter they are even in their US spec.
It is a superior lighting system and the future of automotive headlights.
The value of a brighter more focused headlight or not is left to the comsumer.
You two clearly need to reread sober.

No one made the point you are arguing.
Maybe if I had a few drinks it would make more sense. In the US they work at around and above 37mph as is obvious while driving. There is no debating whether or not such lights exist either. Maybe I'm too tired for this sort of thing right now
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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).
BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
Actually, this comparison was between a Xenon HID headlight on the left vs i8's laser light on the right.
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How is the lume and function of the BMW Laser lights even debatable? It's well documented how much brighter they are even in their US spec.
It is a superior lighting system and the future of automotive headlights.
The value of a brighter more focused headlight or not is left to the comsumer.
You two clearly need to reread sober.

No one made the point you are arguing.
Maybe if I had a few drinks it would make more sense. In the US they work at around and above 37mph as is obvious while driving. There is no debating whether or not such lights exist either. Maybe I'm too tired for this sort of thing right now
You are the only person who somehow believes I stated they don't exist.

Geez.

I can see further posts are ridiculous as you clearly are not reading what I Actually post and making up what you think I said.
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Yup. This is 10000000000% true

High beams with or without lasers are not good to use to cut thru fog.

Our GLE 350 Benz has no fog lamps like all modern Benz vehicles and it is horrendous to near impossible to drive safely in foggy weather.

This is one reason why I want to get an X5 when the GLE350 lease ends this Fall.
I'm glad BMW kept the fog lamps but sad that off road ability is now a $4000 premium package option. A key point of buying or leasing these guzzlers is in case a zombie apocalypse breaks out they offer you the ability to escape into the deep woods. That and the occasion winter ski/summer hike weekend.

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No offense to the OP but the pictures aren't accurate to what the lasers can or cannot do. Reason I say that is because in fog, high beam is worse and will get reflected by the fog causing glare and won't travel nearly as far. Fog lights (usually beamed low, as well as low beams, travel farther in fog due to their height / angle.

https://info.kaltire.com/high-beams-...ng-conditions/

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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I still can't believe I, like most of us, are confused in every way possible here.

My last nugget of confusion is this. Are the following statements true?

In EUROPE and THE WORLD Laserlight IS THE low beams and also the high beams (with LEDs being the DRLs on Laserlight package cars) . So you get in your car and Laserlight comes on with the low beams being turn on.

In the USA where Laser is illegal...Laserlight is never the low beam function and Laserlight is ONLY a supplementary back up for the automatic high beams above 37mph. So you get it your car and led low beams turn on. Then when you hit speeds above 37mph depending on conditions Laserlight ONLY turns on with the high beams turning on.

Lending to the confusion is the fixtures themselves.
Assuming the laser function on Laserlight fixtures is not a coded feature and a physical part inside the housing there must be like three fixtures for the G05 X5:
1. The LED Fixtures (WORLD/USA),
2. The LED-Low Beam/Laserlight-High Beam fixture (USA),
3. The Laserlight Low Beam/High Beam fixture (EUROPE/WORLD)

So someone can tell me if any of the above is true or not.

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How is the lume and function of the BMW Laser lights even debatable? It's well documented how much brighter they are even in their US spec.
It is a superior lighting system and the future of automotive headlights.
The value of a brighter more focused headlight or not is left to the comsumer.
You two clearly need to reread sober.

No one made the point you are arguing.
Maybe if I had a few drinks it would make more sense. In the US they work at around and above 37mph as is obvious while driving. There is no debating whether or not such lights exist either. Maybe I'm too tired for this sort of thing right now
You are the only person who somehow believes I stated they don't exist.

Geez.

I can see further posts are ridiculous as you clearly are not reading what I Actually post and making up what you think I said.
I was going by the above mentioned if we believed everything on the forum like (I'm not going to requote) it seems we are at an impasse and I'm happy leaving this as is and forgetting the situation
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A much better example with same area....led and laser (this was specially set for demo....otherwise it is LED only until over 45 mph).

BMW on left LED (first pic) and BMW with Lasers on right.
I still can't believe I, like most of us, are confused in every way possible here.

My last nugget of confusion is this. Are the following statements true?

In EUROPE and THE WORLD Laserlight IS THE low beams and also the high beams (with LEDs being the DRLs on Laserlight package cars) . So you get in your car and Laserlight comes on with the low beams being turn on.

In the USA where Laser is illegal...Laserlight is never the low beam function and Laserlight is ONLY a supplementary back up for the automatic high beams above 37mph. So you get it your car and led low beams turn on. Then when you hit speeds above 37mph depending on conditions Laserlight ONLY turns on with the high beams turning on.

Lending to the confusion is the fixtures themselves.
Assuming the laser function on Laserlight fixtures is not a coded feature and a physical part inside the housing there must be like three fixtures for the G05 X5:
1. The LED Fixtures (WORLD/USA),
2. The LED-Low Beam/Laserlight-High Beam fixture (USA),
3. The Laserlight Low Beam/High Beam fixture (EUROPE/WORLD)

So someone can tell me if any of the above is true or not.

Thanks
This applies to the laser lights for the record.

there is 1 housing: all that changes is the coding. There is no laser low beam only a high. It doesn't dazzle on coming motorist because of the way BMW shifts the light around cars by physically moving the lens. I can check real OEM to confirm part numbers if you'd like.
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See the bold for my understanding of what you are asking.

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I still can't believe I, like most of us, are confused in every way possible here.

My last nugget of confusion is this. Are the following statements true?

In EUROPE and THE WORLD Laserlight IS THE low beams and also the high beams (with LEDs being the DRLs on Laserlight package cars) . So you get in your car and Laserlight comes on with the low beams being turn on. This is false. Laser lights are only ever used for high beams no matter where.

In the USA where Laser is illegal...Laserlight is never the low beam function and Laserlight is ONLY a supplementary back up for the automatic high beams above 37mph. So you get it your car and led low beams turn on. Then when you hit speeds above 37mph depending on conditions Laserlight ONLY turns on with the high beams turning on. Laser lights are legal in the US. What has not been approved yet is the anti-dazzle feature. The public comment on that ended in December so hopefully soon that feature will be allowed. Laser lights are used in addition to LEDs in high beam over 37mph

Lending to the confusion is the fixtures themselves.
Assuming the laser function on Laserlight fixtures is not a coded feature and a physical part inside the housing there must be like three fixtures for the G05 X5:
1. The LED Fixtures (WORLD/USA),
2. The LED-Low Beam/Laserlight-High Beam fixture (USA),
3. The Laserlight Low Beam/High Beam fixture (EUROPE/WORLD)

From what has been reported here there are three fixtures but not the ones you mentioned. 1. LED Fixtures, no cornering lights. (US and Canada?). 2. LED fixtures with cornering lights. (Australia, UK and Europe?) 3. Laser Lights (Worldwide)
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See the bold for my understanding of what you are asking.
There are 3 laser fixtures after some research.

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No idea the true differences in these, it could be warning labels or something dumb for all we know. For what it's worth the code designation is identical on all of them globally.
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Hi, new here first post .

Have the G05 30d for a month now with standard BMW led. If ever I buy a laser headlight the whole assembly will it be plug and play on th 30d?. We only have 30d variants with Leds. Wanting the laser lights .

Thank you for the replies.
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Maybe it's just me but I don't see much of a difference in these pics. I know fictionally the laser is 4x brighter but not seeing it here. Maybe it's the fog or whatever is blinding a bit of the capability. Oh well.
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