X5 with 3rd row seat

anuj452 · 02-28-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Kotkot

so it seems you cannot order 3rd row seat any more. BMW website removed this option.

This is interesting, wondering if BMW will honor the current orders for X5 with 3rd row or cancel them altogether..

If 2019 X5 is being delivered so late (closer to 2020 model) it's already depreciated in value. Would dealer or BMW NA offer an incentive for this delay, not sure if folks have run into this in the past ?

Kotkot · 02-28-2019, 02:34 PM

spoke on the phone with BMW cust service yesterday.. they not willing to do anything to compensate for the delays or drop in resale value. And my car build week delayed from week 10 to week 14 and now week 16. If dealer is not willing to give me loaner to deal with delays.. I will likely cancel my order.

I also had opportunity to see X5 with 3rd row and X7 side by side today... 3rd row option on X5 is only good because you get Air suspension and power rear seats for $1300. other than that.. 3rd row seat is completely useless. I am 5'8 and I could not sit on the back row without biting my knees. which is stupid, because there was plenty of space between first and second row seats, but second row does not move forward enough to create more space for everybody. I doubt even if my 11 year old would be comfortable in 3rd row and I cant have my small one there, because there are no LATCH in 3rd row on X5. WTF BMW.. who the heck engineered this?? my take..its worse than previous generation X5.

X7, all the extra space is added to 3rd row leg room. trunk space is the same as X5. I have to admit that GLS is much better choice if you want usable 3rd row seat and some reasonable luggage space.

decisions decisions.. perhaps its time to give Mercedes another close look

I do love how X5 drives though..

3rd X5 · 02-28-2019, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kotkot

spoke on the phone with BMW cust service yesterday.. they not willing to do anything to compensate for the delays or drop in resale value. And my car build week delayed from week 10 to week 14 and now week 16. If dealer is not willing to give me loaner to deal with delays.. I will likely cancel my order. ..

Where did you order this?
I am sorry but I think dealer will not give you a loaner for this.
Good luck.

Kotkot · 02-28-2019, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 3rd X5

Where did you order this?
I am sorry but I think dealer will not give you a loaner for this.
Good luck.

Bloomfield. They did tell me about delays.. but week 10 build was acceptable to be. week 16 is adding month and a half. and fundamentally, seeing one with 3rd row in person, makes me question the logic of getting one in the first place.

NoCompromise · 03-01-2019, 02:34 AM

The third row is usable but not comfortable. It's not like the back of a 911 or a TT and also works better if you lower the middle section (so knees can poke through) If you need in any more than 25% of the time then get an X7. But if you need occasionally then you get a faster, better handling, better looking (IMO) and cheaper vehicle with an X5.

I do agree that the lack of Isofix is a real missed opportunity as surely that is the logical place for a child's seat?!

azulita · 03-01-2019, 10:48 AM

Ugh. Just got off the phone with the Genius. My order with the 3rd row that was originally scheduled for week 10, is now at week 19! Last time I had checked a few weeks ago, I was told week 14. That's a whole 5 weeks more.
I wonder what the problem is. The Genius couldn't tell me.

I'd really like the hybrid version, but that means I'd have to wait at least another year. Decision time.

Kotkot · 03-01-2019, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by azulita

Ugh. Just got off the phone with the Genius. My order with the 3rd row that was originally scheduled for week 10, is now at week 19! Last time I had checked a few weeks ago, I was told week 14. That's a whole 5 weeks more.
I wonder what the problem is. The Genius couldn't tell me.

I'd really like the hybrid version, but that means I'd have to wait at least another year. Decision time.

That sucks!! from week 10 to week 19! that's 2 month! sneaky germans just trying to force us to cancel the orders!!

760Lifan · 03-01-2019, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by azulita

I'd really like the hybrid version, but that means I'd have to wait at least another year.

Based on our "insider info", your wait might be MUCH shorter than that (MY20)...

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=901686

cdchris1 · 03-01-2019, 01:19 PM

We just placed our order last weekend (2/23). I just spoke to the Genius and we are scheduled for week 11! I expected much later, especially after hearing others got moved. (I don't mean to anger anyone.)

onefishtwofish · 03-01-2019, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by azulita

Ugh. Just got off the phone with the Genius. My order with the 3rd row that was originally scheduled for week 10, is now at week 19! Last time I had checked a few weeks ago, I was told week 14. That's a whole 5 weeks more.
I wonder what the problem is. The Genius couldn't tell me.

I'd really like the hybrid version, but that means I'd have to wait at least another year. Decision time.

I was originally scheduled for week 10, then pushed to week 14, and now just called to find out it's week 18. This really sucks.

Kotkot · 03-01-2019, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cdchris1

We just placed our order last weekend (2/23). I just spoke to the Genius and we are scheduled for week 11! I expected much later, especially after hearing others got moved. (I don't mean to anger anyone.)

lol! call again and talk to someone else.. see what they say!

azulita · 03-01-2019, 04:49 PM

My dealer confirmed with me this morning after I spoke to the Genius that they received notice from BMW today that they are having a supply issue with the 3rd row seats. That's why the build week keeps getting pushed out.

The leak about the hybrid coming earlier than anticipated is intriguing. I wonder how accurate these leaks have been in the past.

I also wonder what will happen to my build week if I delete the 3rd row option. Will my build week return to week 10? Will it be given priority over other orders since my it was placed 2/6?

anuj452 · 03-04-2019, 01:48 PM

Spoke to BMW Genius today again.

The rep confirmed that my production was pushed from week 6 to week 10 and was then pushed to week 14. He then confirmed that most X5s with 3rd row were pushed back due to vendor supply issues with 3rd row seat and BMW is not taking any new orders with 3rd row.

On my request for compensating for this unusual delay, he asked me to call BMW Customer Relation.

don20111 · 03-04-2019, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kotkot

spoke on the phone with BMW cust service yesterday.. they not willing to do anything to compensate for the delays or drop in resale value. And my car build week delayed from week 10 to week 14 and now week 16. If dealer is not willing to give me loaner to deal with delays.. I will likely cancel my order.

I also had opportunity to see X5 with 3rd row and X7 side by side today... 3rd row option on X5 is only good because you get Air suspension and power rear seats for $1300. other than that.. 3rd row seat is completely useless. I am 5'8 and I could not sit on the back row without biting my knees. which is stupid, because there was plenty of space between first and second row seats, but second row does not move forward enough to create more space for everybody. I doubt even if my 11 year old would be comfortable in 3rd row and I cant have my small one there, because there are no LATCH in 3rd row on X5. WTF BMW.. who the heck engineered this?? my take..its worse than previous generation X5.

X7, all the extra space is added to 3rd row leg room. trunk space is the same as X5. I have to admit that GLS is much better choice if you want usable 3rd row seat and some reasonable luggage space.

decisions decisions.. perhaps its time to give Mercedes another close look

I do love how X5 drives though..

I just had a decent look at the x7 online yesterday, if you want a 7 seater it's a no brainier where I am it will be cheaper to get the x7 that x5. You get so many more features standard to like power 2nd row seats and power down 3rd row, extra 1 foot of length and few inches in height, metal buttons, 4 zone climate control, heated front seats, air suspension, wireless charging, soft close doors, 2nd sun roof, all standard. X7 is only 10k more here than the x5

MystroX5 · 03-04-2019, 02:44 PM

3rd row on the X5 was made mute with the X7. At best the 3rd row in the X5 are jump seats like the what the M850i. If you have to use the 3rd row in the X5 more than a few times a year, you need a X7. No way getting around that space issue.

Kotkot · 03-04-2019, 03:35 PM

I checked out X5 and X7, both with 3rd row seats side by side. my personal conclusion.. X7 sucks. Space for 3rd row seats is good, but trunk space is no larger than X5 with 3rd row seat up. I would chose GLS450 if I really need usable 3rd row + some trunk space.

also, my dealer called me today and told me that X5 with 3rd row is completely discontinued. Whatta bull crap..

MystroX5 · 03-04-2019, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kotkot

also, my dealer called me today and told me that X5 with 3rd row is completely discontinued. Whatta bull crap..

That’s the “we don’t want want the X5 to take away from the X7 sales and complicate our inventory”. My gut says the X7 will not be nearly as popular as the legendary X5. Not a lot of buyers need large people haulers all the time. Most will buy a new Dodge Mini Van for $24k and not worry about the dog or baby throwing up in a $100k BMW.

dream54ing · 03-04-2019, 05:44 PM

Just following this thread as I've also placed an order with the 3rd row seating.

Placed the ordered on 2/16 with a deliver date of 3/16. Last week I was told it will be another 3 weeks additional, which puts us at 4/6.

With all i've read, doesnt sound like my 4/6 date is promising.

dream54ing · 03-04-2019, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MystroX5

3rd row on the X5 was made mute with the X7. At best the 3rd row in the X5 are jump seats like the what the M850i. If you have to use the 3rd row in the X5 more than a few times a year, you need a X7. No way getting around that space issue.

I think most people that ordered the 3rd row/air suspension just wanted the air suspension, I certainly did. From videos, photos and what was posted, everyone knows or should know the expectation of the 3rd row seating.

dream54ing · 03-04-2019, 05:54 PM

How is everyone getting the built week? I'm just given dates to work with. Sorry, this is my first new built.

azulita · 03-04-2019, 06:17 PM

My dealer also confirmed with me today that the model with the 3rd row has been discontinued.

I'm ordering the the air with IAS instead.

In many ways I'm happy that it was delayed because other owners on this forum have since convinced me that IAS is terrific and it gave me time to change my order.

MystroX5 · 03-04-2019, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dream54ing

I think most people that ordered the 3rd row/air suspension just wanted the air suspension, I certainly did. From videos, photos and what was posted, everyone knows or should know the expectation of the 3rd row seating.

That was my takeaway from the forum reports.

02-28-2019, 02:34 PM	#68
Kotkot Private 29 Rep 93 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Nj iTrader: (0)	spoke on the phone with BMW cust service yesterday.. they not willing to do anything to compensate for the delays or drop in resale value. And my car build week delayed from week 10 to week 14 and now week 16. If dealer is not willing to give me loaner to deal with delays.. I will likely cancel my order. I also had opportunity to see X5 with 3rd row and X7 side by side today... 3rd row option on X5 is only good because you get Air suspension and power rear seats for $1300. other than that.. 3rd row seat is completely useless. I am 5'8 and I could not sit on the back row without biting my knees. which is stupid, because there was plenty of space between first and second row seats, but second row does not move forward enough to create more space for everybody. I doubt even if my 11 year old would be comfortable in 3rd row and I cant have my small one there, because there are no LATCH in 3rd row on X5. WTF BMW.. who the heck engineered this?? my take..its worse than previous generation X5. X7, all the extra space is added to 3rd row leg room. trunk space is the same as X5. I have to admit that GLS is much better choice if you want usable 3rd row seat and some reasonable luggage space. decisions decisions.. perhaps its time to give Mercedes another close look I do love how X5 drives though..
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03-01-2019, 02:34 AM	#71
NoCompromise First Lieutenant 149 Rep 320 Posts Drives: X5 G05 40i Msport, X6 M50D Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: London iTrader: (0)	The third row is usable but not comfortable. It's not like the back of a 911 or a TT and also works better if you lower the middle section (so knees can poke through) If you need in any more than 25% of the time then get an X7. But if you need occasionally then you get a faster, better handling, better looking (IMO) and cheaper vehicle with an X5. I do agree that the lack of Isofix is a real missed opportunity as surely that is the logical place for a child's seat?!
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03-01-2019, 10:48 AM	#72
azulita New Member 7 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	Ugh. Just got off the phone with the Genius. My order with the 3rd row that was originally scheduled for week 10, is now at week 19! Last time I had checked a few weeks ago, I was told week 14. That's a whole 5 weeks more. I wonder what the problem is. The Genius couldn't tell me. I'd really like the hybrid version, but that means I'd have to wait at least another year. Decision time.
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cdchris1 Private 44 Rep 63 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) Garage List 2019 BMW X5 [0.00]	We just placed our order last weekend (2/23). I just spoke to the Genius and we are scheduled for week 11! I expected much later, especially after hearing others got moved. (I don't mean to anger anyone.)
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03-01-2019, 04:49 PM	#78
azulita New Member 7 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	My dealer confirmed with me this morning after I spoke to the Genius that they received notice from BMW today that they are having a supply issue with the 3rd row seats. That's why the build week keeps getting pushed out. The leak about the hybrid coming earlier than anticipated is intriguing. I wonder how accurate these leaks have been in the past. I also wonder what will happen to my build week if I delete the 3rd row option. Will my build week return to week 10? Will it be given priority over other orders since my it was placed 2/6?
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03-04-2019, 01:48 PM	#79
anuj452 2019 X5 40i 115 Rep 226 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 40i Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Spoke to BMW Genius today again. The rep confirmed that my production was pushed from week 6 to week 10 and was then pushed to week 14. He then confirmed that most X5s with 3rd row were pushed back due to vendor supply issues with 3rd row seat and BMW is not taking any new orders with 3rd row. On my request for compensating for this unusual delay, he asked me to call BMW Customer Relation.
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MystroX5 Major General 6284 Rep 5,319 Posts Drives: 2020 X7 M50i/ 911 Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0)	3rd row on the X5 was made mute with the X7. At best the 3rd row in the X5 are jump seats like the what the M850i. If you have to use the 3rd row in the X5 more than a few times a year, you need a X7. No way getting around that space issue.
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03-04-2019, 03:35 PM	#82
Kotkot Private 29 Rep 93 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Nj iTrader: (0)	I checked out X5 and X7, both with 3rd row seats side by side. my personal conclusion.. X7 sucks. Space for 3rd row seats is good, but trunk space is no larger than X5 with 3rd row seat up. I would chose GLS450 if I really need usable 3rd row + some trunk space. also, my dealer called me today and told me that X5 with 3rd row is completely discontinued. Whatta bull crap..
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03-04-2019, 05:44 PM	#84
dream54ing Captain 486 Rep 903 Posts Drives: 428xi F32- X5 X5 G05 -640i F06 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: ARIZONA iTrader: (0)	Just following this thread as I've also placed an order with the 3rd row seating. Placed the ordered on 2/16 with a deliver date of 3/16. Last week I was told it will be another 3 weeks additional, which puts us at 4/6. With all i've read, doesnt sound like my 4/6 date is promising.
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dream54ing Captain 486 Rep 903 Posts Drives: 428xi F32- X5 X5 G05 -640i F06 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: ARIZONA iTrader: (0)	How is everyone getting the built week? I'm just given dates to work with. Sorry, this is my first new built.
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03-04-2019, 06:17 PM	#87
azulita New Member 7 Rep 13 Posts Drives: 2019 X5 Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Oregon iTrader: (0)	My dealer also confirmed with me today that the model with the 3rd row has been discontinued. I'm ordering the the air with IAS instead. In many ways I'm happy that it was delayed because other owners on this forum have since convinced me that IAS is terrific and it gave me time to change my order.
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