[jad03060]

Originally Posted by KT_OH

I tried hitting unplug cable and it indicated function was not available. That may have been because I had the doors locked/unlocked when I tried.

In some places in the world, the cable is not part of the EVSE...IOW, you bring your own cable in order to be able to charge your vehicle...that makes the cord harder to steal if it's locked to the vehicle.

The EVSEs sold in the USA tend to all have a tethered cable, but if you're at a public charging station, like maybe at work, where you might need to share the connection, leaving it unlocked so someone else could start a charge when yours was done is nice without having to unlock it for them. It also has it's issues if you're paying for it...in theory, someone might be able to disconnect it, plug it into theirs, and the charges wouldn't stop on your account. I don't think that's a common thing, and may not work with all units, but is a consideration, too.

[krypttic]

Costco has JuiceBox 40 Amp with NEMA for $530 right now: https://www.costco.com/juicebox-40-a...100574926.html

[krypttic]

My fuse panel is as far away from where I park my car as possible. I'm getting quotes to install a NEMA-50 plug near the garage, but it's ridiculously expensive. I may be charing this thing with the included Level 1 charger for the foreseeable future...

[jad03060]

Copper wire is expensive these days. Just the parts on a long run will add up, but if you want the leads concealed, it adds a lot more in labor costs.

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by krypttic

Costco has JuiceBox 40 Amp with NEMA for $530 right now: https://www.costco.com/juicebox-40-a...100574926.html

I think once per season, they have a $50 off $500.

[KT_OH]

Originally Posted by krypttic

My fuse panel is as far away from where I park my car as possible. I'm getting quotes to install a NEMA-50 plug near the garage, but it's ridiculously expensive. I may be charing this thing with the included Level 1 charger for the foreseeable future...

I just had mine installed. It was $2,200 in total - the wire alone was ~$1,000. Same as your situation the panel to the garage was a 100 ft run and 2/3 of that was through a finished basement.

[MikeX521]

I'm debating between the BMW Wallbox and Chargepoint Home Flex.
Any reasons why you choosing another manufacturing over the BMW wallbox for your needs?

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by MikeX521

I'm debating between the BMW Wallbox and Chargepoint Home Flex.
Any reasons why you choosing another manufacturing over the BMW wallbox for your needs?

Because these companies produce EVSE's as a main business. They are likely more reliable, cheaper, and more robust. For a PHEV, fancy EVSE's are kind of a waste.

[walketed]

Originally Posted by MikeX521

I'm debating between the BMW Wallbox and Chargepoint Home Flex.
Any reasons why you choosing another manufacturing over the BMW wallbox for your needs?

Don't over analyze as I did. Is not that important, they charge and offer some characteristics, but you will be fine with either one. I ended up buying an Emporia..

[rsalt333]

BTW, i got the bmw wall charger. the electrician said there were NO instructions in the box. he set it up and I plugged in my new X5 and ...nada! I searched the internet and found the correct (i hope) rocker switch settings. we tried it and it worked. so caveat emptor if you go bmw.

[walketed]

Originally Posted by rsalt333

BTW, i got the bmw wall charger. the electrician said there were NO instructions in the box. he set it up and I plugged in my new X5 and ...nada! I searched the internet and found the correct (i hope) rocker switch settings. we tried it and it worked. so caveat emptor if you go bmw.

Yeap, that's how BMW works... Yet we are all here buying their products. hahaha!

[jad03060]

The first thing to check is if your electric utility offers any specials when you install a particular one. Other than that, any EVSE will charge your vehicle. Some offer features you might want, but they also have more that can fail. I'd like it to have a UL listing, and my preference is to get one that is hard wired in place...every extra connection is another potential source of a problem.

[krypttic]

Anyone tried one of these instead of running a brand new wire all the way back to the fuse panel? https://getneocharge.com/pages/smart-splitter

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by krypttic

Anyone tried one of these instead of running a brand new wire all the way back to the fuse panel? https://getneocharge.com/pages/smart-splitter

I do have one of this, but different brand
https://splitvolt.com/?absrc=Google&...BoCx7kQAvD_BwE

I choose splitvolt manly because the input and output plug can be different. In my case, I need the splitter to plug into 14-30 (dryer output). The split into 14-30 for dryer and 14-50 for EVSE. Neo doesn't have such an option. Other than this, I do think this is a great option for EVSE if you have dryer in garage

Another important note, dryer circuit only allow 24A sustained draw, so you must have 1)a 24A EVSE or lower. or 2)EVSE with user selectable max current. Set to 24A in this case.

[krypttic]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

I do have one of this, but different brand
https://splitvolt.com/?absrc=Google&...BoCx7kQAvD_BwE

I choose splitvolt manly because the input and output plug can be different. In my case, I need the splitter to plug into 14-30 (dryer output). The split into 14-30 for dryer and 14-50 for EVSE. Neo doesn't have such an option. Other than this, I do think this is a great option for EVSE if you have dryer in garage

Another important note, dryer circuit only allow 24A sustained draw, so you must have 1)a 24A EVSE or lower. or 2)EVSE with user selectable max current. Set to 24A in this case.

You can set the BMW to 24A, right? Also, if my dryer is not in my garage (but MUCH closer to it than my fuse panel), can I run an extension cord to the splitter and the other end to my charger?

[eelnoraa]

Originally Posted by krypttic

You can set the BMW to 24A, right? Also, if my dryer is not in my garage (but MUCH closer to it than my fuse panel), can I run an extension cord to the splitter and the other end to my charger?

Regardless of the car, if you plug in EVSE with larger capability of the circuit, it is a code violation. Relying on the car's setting is accident waiting to happen, or happened in one of my close experience.

If you dryer is close to panel, I would say it maybe cheaper just to run 50A circuit. The expansive part is the distance/wire. If 50A plug can be next to panel it is cheap, maybe cheaper than this splitter.

As for extension cord, as far as I know, you should not run extension cord for L2 EVSE. But it is your call. I personally won't do it.

[krypttic]

Originally Posted by eelnoraa

Regardless of the car, if you plug in EVSE with larger capability of the circuit, it is a code violation. Relying on the car's setting is accident waiting to happen, or happened in one of my close experience.

If you dryer is close to panel, I would say it maybe cheaper just to run 50A circuit. The expansive part is the distance/wire. If 50A plug can be next to panel it is cheap, maybe cheaper than this splitter.

As for extension cord, as far as I know, you should not run extension cord for L2 EVSE. But it is your call. I personally won't do it.

My panel is about 150 feet away from where I park the car. Running a new 50A line is going to cost thousands. My dryer is in a laundry room that is attached to the garage.

I figure if I get a JuiceBox, I can set the current limit to 24A. If I do the same in the car, there is redundancy. If for some reason both of those fail, I figure I'll just trip the 30A breaker. Or, instead of using the JuiceBox or BMW charger, I can just purchase a charger that only pulls 24A, like this one: https://splitvolt.com/products/cgb-nema-10-30-24-amp

Depending on how long the JuiceBox power cable is, I may be able to reach the dryer plug. Otherwise, they sell these: https://splitvolt.com/products/egb-n...40775381385356

[Shaysam71]

We have the 50e and use the Autel charger. Great looking charger 25 foot cord and the software is pretty easy to use. You can change your charge current from 48 v down to what you need. I know like charge point you have to call. For the money well worth it. Those that have the Grizzle what do you use for software?

https://autelenergy.us/pages/residential

[KT_OH]

Originally Posted by Shaysam71

We have the 50e and use the Autel charger. Great looking charger 25 foot cord and the software is pretty easy to use. You can change your charge current from 48 v down to what you need. I know like charge point you have to call. For the money well worth it. Those that have the Grizzle what do you use for software?

https://autelenergy.us/pages/residential

I have the Grizzle E. I just use the BMW app to set charging times to the extent I want to set times. Hopefully less things to go wrong in the future since it does have any software/WiFi, etc. I generally just plug it in and have it set for immediate charge.

Energy costs are already low and we have supplier choice. I could get off peak rates with my local utility, but have to take their pricing to do that. Lots of choices for other suppliers here and their rates more that offset benefit of off peak charging. Our transmission and generation cost was $0.055 / kwh. That went up in June, but still fairly reasonable.

[ORD_Flyer]

Hey All -

Recently got my BMW Wallbox Gen 3 installed and interestingly could not connect to Wi-Fi to do a firmware update. My electrician reached out to Wallbox who subsequently directed him to BMW who stated that currently, there is no way to connect to Wi-Fi and that it will work fine. My 50e is still on order so I’ll confirm upon receipt.

But wondering if anyone had thoughts on never being able to do a firmware update. My settings are already set to 40 amps and it’s in my garage so no concerns with other cars “stealing” my electricity. Any other potential issues with no firmware updates? It’s my first hybrid vehicle.

[jad03060]

I haven't looked at the user's manual for the BMW EVSE, but it should work just fine as a 'dumb' EVSE. The smarts may help you set some automations and calculate some statistics, but those aren't required to feed your X5 power.

[dyzfnctional]

do you folks charge to 100% all the time or 80%? Been reading around some say ok to 100% and others say otherwise...