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      10-25-2020, 04:22 AM   #1
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OEM tire lottery

Is it still a crapshoot as to what tire you get from the factory?

I'm no expert, so are Hankook tires any good? I always thought of them as a "lesser" brand and thought it incredibly odd to see them on a model like the X5 vs a Pirelli or something like that.
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Disagree 100% Hankook is a Korean brand, which are all quite decent.

Unless you are chasing down hundredths of seconds on a racetrack..... there really isn't a huge difference between American brands, European brands, and even Korean brands.

It's the CHINESE brands you have to avoid. And, be careful,.because they don't all have "Chinese" sounding names.

Why? Tires are tires, right? Nope. Here's a few reasons why Chinese tires should be avoided:

1) China has ZERO regulation on manufacturing processes for Chinese brands.

2) China uses "whatever" is cheapest to make their products.

3) You could buy 4 identical tires, and they could be made from 4 completely different rubber compounds. One will be soft like pencil erasers.... the others will be made from the same material they make bulldozer tracks from.

4) All those chinese brand tires on ebay? Are from companies that have already closed up shop, and re-opened under a different brand name. You can't return them. There is no warrantee (even if they say there is.... they lie).... and you can't sue them when they fail and kill your family..... because the company doesn't exist.

Now.... I may get some "China makes plenty of good things.... stop being so racist" comments here..... and yes, there are plenty of good things made in China...

.... IF THEY ARE CONTRACTED TO MAKE THEM by a non-Chinese company. (Apple, Samsung, etc). At least then, the company has oversight, quality control, and accountability. In that case, yes.... Chinese products are fine.

If it's a Chinese company, with a Chinese brand name (or no name at all)..... Don't do it. Especially not wheels, tires, brakes, or anything that your family depends on for safety.

Hankook? Makes very decent tires. I bought a set for my wife's Hyundai Tucson, that my entire family commutes in daily.
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Disagree 100% Hankook is a Korean brand, which are all quite decent.

Unless you are chasing down hundredths of seconds on a racetrack..... there really isn't a huge difference between American brands, European brands, and even Korean brands.

It's the CHINESE brands you have to avoid. And, be careful,.because they don't all have "Chinese" sounding names.

Why? Tires are tires, right? Nope. Here's a few reasons why Chinese tires should be avoided:

1) China has ZERO regulation on manufacturing processes for Chinese brands.

2) China uses "whatever" is cheapest to make their products.

3) You could buy 4 identical tires, and they could be made from 4 completely different rubber compounds. One will be soft like pencil erasers.... the others will be made from the same material they make bulldozer tracks from.

4) All those chinese brand tires on ebay? Are from companies that have already closed up shop, and re-opened under a different brand name. You can't return them. There is no warrantee (even if they say there is.... they lie).... and you can't sue them when they fail and kill your family..... because the company doesn't exist.

Now.... I may get some "China makes plenty of good things.... stop being so racist" comments here..... and yes, there are plenty of good things made in China...

.... IF THEY ARE CONTRACTED TO MAKE THEM by a non-Chinese company. (Apple, Samsung, etc). At least then, the company has oversight, quality control, and accountability. In that case, yes.... Chinese products are fine.

If it's a Chinese company, with a Chinese brand name (or no name at all)..... Don't do it. Especially not wheels, tires, brakes, or anything that your family depends on for safety.

Hankook? Makes very decent tires. I bought a set for my wife's Hyundai Tucson, that my entire family commutes in daily.
Agree, Kumho is not that bad either (also Korean company).

I didn't know X5s came with Hankook also? I thought it was either Pirelli or Bridgestone.
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      12-09-2020, 01:01 AM   #4
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OEM tires will have the five-pointed star on them which means they were customized to BMW specs. You can sometimes buy the same brand and model tire, but one may have the star on it, and the other may not. Visually, other than the star, you may not be able to discern any differences, but internally, there probably are.
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My M50i came with Hankook. No issues with them thus far.
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Disagree 100% Hankook is a Korean brand, which are all quite decent.

Unless you are chasing down hundredths of seconds on a racetrack..... there really isn't a huge difference between American brands, European brands, and even Korean brands.

It's the CHINESE brands you have to avoid. And, be careful,.because they don't all have "Chinese" sounding names.

Why? Tires are tires, right? Nope. Here's a few reasons why Chinese tires should be avoided:

1) China has ZERO regulation on manufacturing processes for Chinese brands.

2) China uses "whatever" is cheapest to make their products.

3) You could buy 4 identical tires, and they could be made from 4 completely different rubber compounds. One will be soft like pencil erasers.... the others will be made from the same material they make bulldozer tracks from.

4) All those chinese brand tires on ebay? Are from companies that have already closed up shop, and re-opened under a different brand name. You can't return them. There is no warrantee (even if they say there is.... they lie).... and you can't sue them when they fail and kill your family..... because the company doesn't exist.

Now.... I may get some "China makes plenty of good things.... stop being so racist" comments here..... and yes, there are plenty of good things made in China...

.... IF THEY ARE CONTRACTED TO MAKE THEM by a non-Chinese company. (Apple, Samsung, etc). At least then, the company has oversight, quality control, and accountability. In that case, yes.... Chinese products are fine.

If it's a Chinese company, with a Chinese brand name (or no name at all)..... Don't do it. Especially not wheels, tires, brakes, or anything that your family depends on for safety.

Hankook? Makes very decent tires. I bought a set for my wife's Hyundai Tucson, that my entire family commutes in daily.
Agree, Kumho is not that bad either (also Korean company).

I didn't know X5s came with Hankook also? I thought it was either Pirelli or Bridgestone.
I believe current X5/X6 OEM tire brands are: Michelin, Pirelli, Continental and Hankook. (I honestly didn't know about the latter until reading this thread!)

They may still be doing Goodyear as well. (I know my last X5 (F15) came with Goodyear.)
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      12-12-2020, 11:27 PM   #7
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FWIW, my car was just delivered with Continentals. Nothing more to report as I drove it straight to the detailer from the detailer and all I remember is seeing Continental on the side.
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If it's a Chinese company, with a Chinese brand name (or no name at all)..... Don't do it. Especially not wheels, tires, brakes, or anything that your family depends on for safety.
Take a look at the windshield glass, it's manufactured by Fuyao, a well known Chinese company. Granted, they have setup shop in US
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Bridgestone Alenza on my 45e with 20" wheels. Week 49 build.
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+1 re: 20" Bridgestone Alenza xDr40i. Week 49 build.
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Hankook Ventus S1 evo3 summer performance tires on my 2021 45e staggered 21" wheels, week 50 build
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Hankook Ventus S1 evo3 summer performance tires on my 2021 45e staggered 21" wheels, week 50 build
Wow, I didn't think BMW would go outside the large well known tire brands on vehicles built in the US. But I guess as always, its all about keeping the shareholders purses filled up.
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Would gladly take Hankook performance tires vs. Pirelli, Conti, or Bridgestone. They are well known for their racing tires and produce excellent products. Only brands I would swap them out for is Michelin or Nokian depending on the application.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/hank...ng-at-le-mans/

https://www.rubbernews.com/automotiv...a-4a4ec8a5fa4a

http://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/...ml?idxno=17035

https://www.moderntiredealer.com/art...-formula-drift

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Would gladly take Hankook performance tires vs. Pirelli, Conti, or Bridgestone. They are well known for their racing tires and produce excellent products. Only brands I would swap them out for is Michelin or Nokian depending on the application.
my staggered 21" Hankooks will be available soon once my replacements come in. PM if interested.

i, too, prefer Michelin or Nokian but unfortunately they don't have my tires sizes
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Pirelli p-zero's 19" summer version on a 45e
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Disagree 100% Hankook is a Korean brand, which are all quite decent.

Unless you are chasing down hundredths of seconds on a racetrack..... there really isn't a huge difference between American brands, European brands, and even Korean brands.

It's the CHINESE brands you have to avoid. And, be careful,.because they don't all have "Chinese" sounding names.

Why? Tires are tires, right? Nope. Here's a few reasons why Chinese tires should be avoided:

1) China has ZERO regulation on manufacturing processes for Chinese brands.

2) China uses "whatever" is cheapest to make their products.

3) You could buy 4 identical tires, and they could be made from 4 completely different rubber compounds. One will be soft like pencil erasers.... the others will be made from the same material they make bulldozer tracks from.

4) All those chinese brand tires on ebay? Are from companies that have already closed up shop, and re-opened under a different brand name. You can't return them. There is no warrantee (even if they say there is.... they lie).... and you can't sue them when they fail and kill your family..... because the company doesn't exist.

Now.... I may get some "China makes plenty of good things.... stop being so racist" comments here..... and yes, there are plenty of good things made in China...

.... IF THEY ARE CONTRACTED TO MAKE THEM by a non-Chinese company. (Apple, Samsung, etc). At least then, the company has oversight, quality control, and accountability. In that case, yes.... Chinese products are fine.

If it's a Chinese company, with a Chinese brand name (or no name at all)..... Don't do it. Especially not wheels, tires, brakes, or anything that your family depends on for safety.

Hankook? Makes very decent tires. I bought a set for my wife's Hyundai Tucson, that my entire family commutes in daily.
Sir, 100% agree with you.
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The Hankooks I have on my Toyota were made in the Hankook factory in Tennessee
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The Hankooks I have on my Toyota were made in the Hankook factory in Tennessee
Ah damn, in that case maybe I don’t trust them after all.
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Ah damn, in that case maybe I don’t trust them after all.
I was surprised how well they are built and how they handle. My Corolla S isn't built for speed but more so for handling. It has a custom lowered suspension and makes high speed drifting around curves in the rain look easy. Hankook handles guuuuuuuud lol
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I was surprised how well they are built and how they handle. My Corolla S isn't built for speed but more so for handling. It has a custom lowered suspension and makes high speed drifting around curves in the rain look easy. Hankook handles guuuuuuuud lol
I was kidding, I'm sure they're great!
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tires and brakes are the last places i want to save money, its actually a place i want to spend it.
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