[mitch57]

What's the purpose of the blue battery symbol on the dash? Does anyone know what it means?

[eagle_bmw]

Originally Posted by mitch57

What's the purpose of the blue battery symbol on the dash? Does anyone know what it means?

This is the thread I was referring to in my previous response.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24689610

I may have missed it but I couldn't find it in the driver's manual.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by eagle_bmw

This is the thread I was referring to in my previous response.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24689610

I may have missed it but I couldn't find it in the driver's manual.

I just looked and can't find it either. How freaking stupid! Icons on the dash with no explanation in the owner's manual explaining what the hell they mean. Just plain stupid!

[barcelona]

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1606933

I've had this in my past 3 BMWs, it's not a new thing. The blue battery/line during coasting is showing energy recovery. For some reason I love seeing it come on.

BMW explains it better than I could in the driver's guide:

"During energy recovery, the kinetic energy of the vehicle is converted into electric energy during coasting. The vehicle battery is partially charged and the fuel consumption can be reduced"

(no $hit to the last part, it only works when your foot is off the gas and brake, I'd hope that my fuel consumption would be reduced just from that Maybe that's why I love seeing it come on )

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by barcelona

https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1606933

I've had this in my past 3 BMWs, it's not a new thing. The blue battery/line during coasting is showing energy recovery. For some reason I love seeing it come on.

BMW explains it better than I could in the driver's guide:

"During energy recovery, the kinetic energy of the vehicle is converted into electric energy during coasting. The vehicle battery is partially charged and the fuel consumption can be reduced"

(no $hit to the last part, it only works when your foot is off the gas and brake, I'd hope that my fuel consumption would be reduced just from that Maybe that's why I love seeing it come on )

I can't find any reference to it in my X7 manual. Perhaps you could point me to where the information your talking about is displayed in the X7 owner's manual? Below is the only information I could find relating to what your referencing. However, there is no reference in the manual regarding that battery icon.

"Energy recovery

During energy recovery, the kinetic energy of the vehicle is converted into electric energy during coasting. The vehicle battery is partially charged and fuel consumption can be reduced."

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by Xeno

Anyone else seen this message which popped up again this morning that I saw during a month of driving on the open road (May)?

Back to the original intent of this thread, has anyone solved this issue yet?

I'm now getting the identical error.

On a related note; maybe coincidence, but it also started after I've subscribed to Drive Recorder App; which uses the car's front/rear/side cameras like a dash-cam.

[James_G0540i]

OK, took my car to the dealer this morning, and this error message relates to low charge in the Battery.

The dealer Service Manager asked me if I was using the car for long period without the engine running, and of course the answer is "no".

He put it on a special high current charging unit they have for 1 hour, and all good - error message has vanished.

So if anyone gets this error message, it means your battery is drained and low, and just needs a charge.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

OK, took my car to the dealer this morning, and this error message relates to low charge in the Battery.

The dealer Service Manager asked me if I was using the car for long period without the engine running, and of course the answer is "no".

He put it on a special high current charging unit they have for 1 hour, and all good - error message has vanished.

So if anyone gets this error message, it means your battery is drained and low, and just needs a charge.

Do you leave your key in the car overnight? I get a similar but different message on my wife’s ‘14 650 when I forget the key in the vehicle.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by RVAGuy

Do you leave your key in the car overnight? I get a similar but different message on my wife’s ‘14 650 when I forget the key in the vehicle.

Nope, never leave them in the car.

[RVAGuy]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

Nope, never leave them in the car.

We don’t intentionally either. But when starting the car if I receive that message I now know to look for the second set of keys.

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

OK, took my car to the dealer this morning, and this error message relates to low charge in the Battery.

The dealer Service Manager asked me if I was using the car for long period without the engine running, and of course the answer is "no".

He put it on a special high current charging unit they have for 1 hour, and all good - error message has vanished.

So if anyone gets this error message, it means your battery is drained and low, and just needs a charge.

The challenge, of course, is to determine the cause which is discussed in earlier posts. Then in terms of a solution, whether BMW has liability such that they should replace the battery.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by Xeno

The challenge, of course, is to determine the cause which is discussed in earlier posts. Then in terms of a solution, whether BMW has liability such that they should replace the battery.

Yep, agree with that, I'd sure like to get to the root cause too.

The only thing that has changed for me in the last 4 weeks is the subscription to Driving Camera service about 2 weeks ago, which uses the onboard front/rear/side cameras as a dash-cam. In theory it shouldn't matter, as the camera systems should shutdown once I lock and walk-away, but I'm suspicious this might not be happening and therefore draining the battery.

[martinf79]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

Yep, agree with that, I'd sure like to get to the root cause too.

The only thing that has changed for me in the last 4 weeks is the subscription to Driving Camera service about 2 weeks ago, which uses the onboard front/rear/side cameras as a dash-cam. In theory it shouldn't matter, as the camera systems should shutdown once I lock and walk-away, but I'm suspicious this might not be happening and therefore draining the battery.

I had the same message come up a few times in the winter when I had my 335i. I had a short commute ... winter time ... cold battery... running everything to warm up (seat warmer, steering wheel, high heat/fan) + radio, etc. Doing this every day in really cold weather never gave the battery a chance to recharge. The X5 has even more technology running in it (Plus 10 minutes delayed shut off when the engine is turned off), so this is probably the case for most situations. Buy a smart charger for the battery and put it on every 2-3 weeks in the winter (if this is your situation), and you should be good. That said, I still have a very short commute, and have 2 celllink batteries hard wired that are also putting drain on the battery, and I haven't had any issues. Not sure if the 6 cylinder vs. v8 has anything to do w the alternator and rate of recharge?

[seattleguy]

Having the same issue with 2019 X5 - had it in once to check the power supply warning light, roadside said i only had 7 miles. Dealership was within range so I was able to go there without tow, light shutoff upon arrival. Dealership had it for 3 days, said nothing wrong, drove about 30 miles since and I have nothing connected to any outlets, no drive cam, and power supply warning light came on again. This time roadside said not sure can’t seem to get any reading and wanted to send a tow. Any advice?

[James_G0540i]

I had this same warning message almost every day, and I have solved this issue, but does come with some minor inconvenience with respect to one feature.

It is NOT battery related, contrary to what dealers tell you (I was going to call them something but will refrain). I have an an advanced Battery charger that does testing (voltage, CCA..etc), maintenance/trickle charge, reconditioning and normal charging - and my battery was fine when I was getting this message, it was >80% charge and my CCAs were up above 600A.

To solve, you need to disable the "lock on leaving" function, the car has an issue with this feature and does not fully shut down properly. This is the feature that uses proximity to detect that you are leaving the car, and locks automatically.
"Unlock on approach" is fine, and I have this enabled, however I just use the key fob to lock the car when I get out and walk away.

Since using this approach, I've haven't seen this message again. I'm on S/W release 11/2019.34 - and I'm quite happy with this release, but until I'm on a newer version and can verify/test it fixes this issue - I'll keep "lock on leaving" disabled.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

I had this same warning message almost every day, and I have solved this issue, but does come with some minor inconvenience with respect to one feature.

It is NOT battery related, contrary to what dealers tell you (I was going to call them something but will refrain). I have an an advanced Battery charger that does testing (voltage, CCA..etc), maintenance/trickle charge, reconditioning and normal charging - and my battery was fine when I was getting this message, it was >80% charge and my CCAs were up above 600A.

To solve, you need to disable the "lock on leaving" function, the car has an issue with this feature and does not fully shut down properly. This is the feature that uses proximity to detect that you are leaving the car, and locks automatically.
"Unlock on approach" is fine, and I have this enabled, however I just use the key fob to lock the car when I get out and walk away.

Since using this approach, I've haven't seen this message again. I'm on S/W release 11/2019.34 - and I'm quite happy with this release, but until I'm on a newer version and can verify/test it fixes this issue - I'll keep "lock on leaving" disabled.

This could be a software issue as well as a build and model year issue.

I have a 2020 X7 on software version 07/2019.59. I've had the car since mid November and have just over 6K miles on the car. I've yet to see any battery issue warnings and I have my vehicle set to lock when departing and have had it on that setting since I took delivery.

[mhfrye]

Originally Posted by Xeno

Anyone else seen this message which popped up again this morning that I saw during a month of driving on the open road (May)?

Also have a 2019 X5 M Sport 5.0i, and had this message around 6 months ago. It became gradually worse, to the point all electronics started failing with various error messages, and ultimately the car struggled to start in a parking lot. My dealer diagnosed it as my battery needed replacing. It was replaced along with a software upgrade, and I've had no problems since. I suspect the older iDrive software I was running taxed the battery until it failed. Crossing my fingers it doesn't fail again.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by mitch57

This could be a software issue as well as a build and model year issue.

I have a 2020 X7 on software version 07/2019.59. I've had the car since mid November and have just over 6K miles on the car. I've yet to see any battery issue warnings and I have my vehicle set to lock when departing and have had it on that setting since I took delivery.

Its interesting so you that, when I was on 07/2019/47 - I never saw that shutdown warning. So maybe something introduced with 11/2019/xx?

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by mhfrye

Also have a 2019 X5 M Sport 5.0i, and had this message around 6 months ago. It became gradually worse, to the point all electronics started failing with various error messages, and ultimately the car struggled to start in a parking lot. My dealer diagnosed it as my battery needed replacing. It was replaced along with a software upgrade, and I've had no problems since. I suspect the older iDrive software I was running taxed the battery until it failed. Crossing my fingers it doesn't fail again.

The battery draining to the point where is wont operate features and not start the car is a consequence of the bug, which I am convinced is software related. By the car not shutting down its electronic systems, the battery continues to drain - either overnight or when you've been parked.

By locking my car manually (ie. via the key fob when I get out), I haven't seen that warning message again when getting back in, and my battery has thanked me for it, because its sitting at a nice 70-80%.

What S/W version did they upgrade you to?

[mhfrye]

Originally Posted by James_G0530d

The battery draining to the point where is wont operate features and not start the car is a consequence of the bug, which I am convinced is software related. By the car not shutting down its electronic systems, the battery continues to drain - either overnight or when you've been parked.

By locking my car manually (ie. via the key fob when I get out), I haven't seen that warning message again when getting back in, and my battery has thanked me for it, because its sitting at a nice 70-80%.

What S/W version did they upgrade you to?

Yes. In my case I believe the continuous cycle of battery drain and recharge while driving ultimately damaged my battery's ability to hold a charge, requiring replacement. I too locked my car manually when parked with the key fob, but it still happened. I am now on the 11/2019 version of software...not sure of the exact number. It has worked fine since the upgrade, and new battery.

[babyghost]

Originally Posted by Xeno

Anyone else seen this message which popped up again this morning that I saw during a month of driving on the open road (May)?

Hi Xeno, was the problem solved? I'm getting the same notice after my battery died and recharged. I also lost my comfort access. Seems only getting it after the car was parked for a few hours.
Thanks

[Xeno]

Originally Posted by babyghost

Hi Xeno, was the problem solved? I'm getting the same notice after my battery died and recharged. I also lost my comfort access. Seems only getting it after the car was parked for a few hours.
Thanks

This issue is not resolved for me and my dealer always complains about my electronics.

The most recent episode was the last few days on a short trip where I had BV in parking mode and did not drive the car very many miles each day after reaching my hotel. I doubt the same will be true next month when most days I will be driving a few hundred miles each day.