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      11-08-2021, 02:46 PM   #529
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Is there a camber kit for this car so we can dial back in the negative camber that lowering the car causes? I was told the camber isn't adjustable up front only the rears are when I got my alignment done.

Needless to say after just one summer my front inside edges of my pirelli pzeros are bald. The rest of the tire still has tons of tread left. The rear tires are wearing evenly.

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Put me down for a set if you can make it happen.
Me too. Hearing this - after just one summer my front inside edges of my pirelli pzeros are bald - and knowing what those tires cost just put lowering waaaayyyy down (no pun intended) on my list.
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RGSport have you compared the MSS to the H&R spring set. Thoughts? compare/contrast?

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It was my concern too when I discuss it with MSS.
With them knowing the material and from my observation on the spring movement, it will last.
The rear suspension movement is just up and down, so no twisting to the spring that may and damage the neoprene.
Of course, MSS is looking for another solution that can be better.

The only downside on this fix.
You won't be able to adjust the height while they are assembled.
This way will damage the neoprene.
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The handling and ride balance on this car is so good, I don't think I could bring myself to tweak it.
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      11-20-2021, 05:39 AM   #534
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RGSport have you compared the MSS to the H&R spring set. Thoughts? compare/contrast?

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It was my concern too when I discuss it with MSS.
With them knowing the material and from my observation on the spring movement, it will last.
The rear suspension movement is just up and down, so no twisting to the spring that may and damage the neoprene.
Of course, MSS is looking for another solution that can be better.

The only downside on this fix.
You won't be able to adjust the height while they are assembled.
This way will damage the neoprene.
Yes, hands down on the MSS.
The H&R has less drop and a little bouncy.
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Is there a camber kit for this car so we can dial back in the negative camber that lowering the car causes? I was told the camber isn’t adjustable up front only the rears are when I got my alignment done.

Needless to say after just one summer my front inside edges of my pirelli pzeros are bald. The rest of the tire still has tons of tread left. The rear tires are wearing evenly.

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Is there a camber kit for this car so we can dial back in the negative camber that lowering the car causes? I was told the camber isn't adjustable up front only the rears are when I got my alignment done.

Needless to say after just one summer my front inside edges of my pirelli pzeros are bald. The rest of the tire still has tons of tread left. The rear tires are wearing evenly.

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Sounds like you want to reduce or dial out the increase in negative camber. It is a sportier position and improves handling but if you don't drive it hard you will get uneven wear.
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That’s what I meant. “Dial in” the camber back to factory specs. Or dial out the negative camber that lowering causes
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Small update

We've done some more miles in our development vehicle and been impressed with improved comfort.

Big difference is the vehicle doesn't dive like it did under harder braking.

Turn in has also been improved.

I've attached some 50/50 photos again.

Looking forward to testing on the track next week 🤪
The front looks just a little too low for my taste. Can this be adjusted? Well after completely reading the thread I guess I will wait until someone irons out the issues with this kit or come up with a better one. I was so ready to get this kit installed. The after stance looks awesome.
It is adjustable spring. You can dial up the height to your liking.

Btw, what issue are you waiting to be fixed?
There is no issue with this kit.
I was referring to the ride issues that people are having where the car feels unstable on bumps and some said there was more lean in the corners. I also thought someone said something about fault light issues but not sure. It looks great but I didn't want to change the handling character of the car and I can't tolerate fault lights in a car this expensive and I have OCD sometimes. Lol!
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I was referring to the ride issues that people are having where the car feels unstable on bumps and some said there was more lean in the corners. I also thought someone said something about fault light issues but not sure. It looks great but I didn't want to change the handling character of the car and I can't tolerate fault lights in a car this expensive and I have OCD sometimes. Lol!
I think you need to read the whole thread again.
Because for this application, I don't recall any issue.
When you mention "people", it would be great if you can share the specific post mentioning that.
Fault light issue, if you read carefully it is not because of the product itself. It is mainly because the installer's fault.
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I think you need to read the whole thread again.
Because for this application, I don't recall any issue.
When you mention "people", it would be great if you can share the specific post mentioning that.
Fault light issue, if you read carefully it is not because of the product itself. It is mainly because the installer's fault.
Well said, I have them installed on my '22 X5M Comp. It improved the ride ( in my opinion ) and no fault lights.

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I think you need to read the whole thread again.
Because for this application, I don't recall any issue.
When you mention "people", it would be great if you can share the specific post mentioning that.
Fault light issue, if you read carefully it is not because of the product itself. It is mainly because the installer's fault.
Well said, I have them installed on my '22 X5M Comp. It improved the ride ( in my opinion ) and no fault lights.
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I was referring to the ride issues that people are having where the car feels unstable on bumps and some said there was more lean in the corners. I also thought someone said something about fault light issues but not sure. It looks great but I didn't want to change the handling character of the car and I can't tolerate fault lights in a car this expensive and I have OCD sometimes. Lol!
I think you need to read the whole thread again.
Because for this application, I don't recall any issue.
When you mention "people", it would be great if you can share the specific post mentioning that.
Fault light issue, if you read carefully it is not because of the product itself. It is mainly because the installer's fault.
I apologize if I missed any new information, and I'm not trying to crap on the product. I can be very OCD about some things, especially when it comes to my cars. I was following x622 and Alan I's posts. I didn't see where X622 ever got a fix for his issue and also read a post or two about uneven wear in the front wheel. And maybe your right, maybe I didn't read enough before coming to a conclusion. To each his own, problems bother me but , I will make an effort to go back and read the entire thread because I would love to lower my ride if there are no associated problems.
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Hello guys

Does anyone knows what is the solution for this knocking noise. It happens when I turn left and right, also when I apply brakes.
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All these sounds coming from rear



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Yes, hands down on the MSS.
The H&R has less drop and a little bouncy.
Does this also apply to the X3M (H&R vs MSS)?
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I was referring to the ride issues that people are having where the car feels unstable on bumps and some said there was more lean in the corners. I also thought someone said something about fault light issues but not sure. It looks great but I didn't want to change the handling character of the car and I can't tolerate fault lights in a car this expensive and I have OCD sometimes. Lol!
I think you need to read the whole thread again.
Because for this application, I don't recall any issue.
When you mention "people", it would be great if you can share the specific post mentioning that.
Fault light issue, if you read carefully it is not because of the product itself. It is mainly because the installer's fault.
I apologize if I missed any new information, and I'm not trying to crap on the product. I can be very OCD about some things, especially when it comes to my cars. I was following x622 and Alan I's posts. I didn't see where X622 ever got a fix for his issue and also read a post or two about uneven wear in the front wheel. And maybe your right, maybe I didn't read enough before coming to a conclusion. To each his own, problems bother me but , I will make an effort to go back and read the entire thread because I would love to lower my ride if there are no associated problems.
Front camber can't be adjusted as far as I know once the car is lowered. It wears tires more. Just buy more tires when you burn them.
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Yes, hands down on the MSS.
The H&R has less drop and a little bouncy.
Does this also apply to the X3M (H&R vs MSS)?
Yes.
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Finally got around to installing these things right in time for our first real snow with the winter wheels as well. Hopefully they settle a bit more after our trip back. Thanks to Ben at RGsport and the good folks at MSS for after-sale support. A+

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Finally got around to installing these things right in time for our first real snow with the winter wheels as well. Hopefully they settle a bit more after our trip back. Thanks to Ben at RGsport and the good folks at MSS for after-sale support. A+

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Just went though all 25 pages and it looks like the permanent fix is to torque the sway bar bolt to 73ft lbs.

Wrap the neoprene sleeve over the rear adjuster and under the spring.

It looks like everyone is doing 0mm thread gap front and 10mm thread gap rear for the perfect rake and drop.

Now I just need to decide what size spacers to order from Ben.

12mm/15mm or just 15mm all around.

Does anyone have a pdf of the instructions from MSS? I notice some mentions that it doesn't come with it.
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Does anyone have a pdf of the instructions from MSS? I notice some mentions that it doesn't come with it.
https://mssautomotive.com/install-guide
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Just went though all 25 pages and it looks like the permanent fix is to torque the sway bar bolt to 73ft lbs.

Wrap the neoprene sleeve over the rear adjuster and under the spring.

It looks like everyone is doing 0mm thread gap front and 10mm thread gap rear for the perfect rake and drop.

Now I just need to decide what size spacers to order from Ben.

12mm/15mm or just 15mm all around.

Does anyone have a pdf of the instructions from MSS? I notice some mentions that it doesn't come with it.
Actually, the correct fix is put a shim on rear sway bar link where it is sandwiched to the lower arm.
The fix is not due to MSS suspension.
It is fix from BMW.
I have a few F95 X5M and F96 X6M that came in with the noise before I even install the MSS.
I believe BMW has released the service bulletin regarding the issue.
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