BMW X5
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-12-2018, 06:16 AM   #45
Wild Blue
Brigadier General
Wild Blue's Avatar
United_States
3677
Rep
3,479
Posts

Drives: 2021 X7 M50i, 2004 330i w/ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Alaska

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokiiiz View Post
Nice review indeed...thanks!!

Seems I'll head from Dubai to Abu Dhabi soon to see it in real.

Not sure since they are launching the new model in Abu Dhabi motors whether they have acquired the authority approval to include/activate the connected drive (like in dubai) or still not working?
I'm still angry as bought my car x6 Msport 18 from Abu Dhabi and still not able to get the ConnectedDrive activated due to authorities approvals in there as claimed by the dealer there
Hey! That's the first I've heard of the Connected Drive issue there. The Khalidiya and Umm al Nar showrooms have a G05 on display. I'd be surprised if none of the Dubai dealers don't have it as well.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 07:32 AM   #46
GeeRam
Major
GeeRam's Avatar
United Kingdom
195
Rep
1,317
Posts

Drives: X5 40d SE
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Berkshire,UK

iTrader: (0)

Brilliant write up and photos

Really like almost all the new stuff with the G05....... but,

Only two concerns I have now over the G05 is with the bundling of the options into packs (no doubt due to WLTP testing) meaning I have to have options I don't want to get some stuff I do want , comfort access being included in the 'comfort pack' being the major issue for me, because of the theft problem via comfort access in the UK.
Could be the deal breaker for me in not buying a G05, unless that photo of the key fob means it may be possible to switch off comfort access via the fob?

Only other issue for me is I've just noticed that even the non-MSport models now have staggered tyre sizes, so no all-season tyre option, which again for me, could be a deal breaker
__________________
2017 X5 4.0dSE ~ Atlas Cedar:Ind.Amaro Brown Merino&Piano Blk, Sport Auto, DHP, Comfort seats, Cold weather pack, HK audio, Electric towbar, Sun protection glass.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 07:42 AM   #47
ILM_X5
Second Lieutenant
ILM_X5's Avatar
207
Rep
294
Posts

Drives: 2024 X5 M60i
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Surf City, NC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
Only other issue for me is I've just noticed that even the non-MSport models now have staggered tyre sizes, so no all-season tyre option, which again for me, could be a deal breaker
There are two non-staggered wheel and tire options for non-M Sport models, at least in the US FWIW. Neither the 19" nor 20" wheel options have staggered wheels/tires.
__________________
'13 Raptor (sold); '14 Raptor (sold); '15 A6 Quattro (sold); '19 X5 xDrive 40i (sold); '20 4Runner TRD Pro (sold), '22 MDX A-Spec (sold); '22 MDX A-Spec (sold); '24 X5 M60i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 08:02 AM   #48
Wild Blue
Brigadier General
Wild Blue's Avatar
United_States
3677
Rep
3,479
Posts

Drives: 2021 X7 M50i, 2004 330i w/ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Alaska

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefcake View Post
Ok, I struggle with this legroom thing.

I do no want to disrespect you in any way; but the way you present the legroom is a bit misleading.

so you say that you are 6'3 (which is about 190cm), that's already in the tallest 10% (if already that) of the people.
Next to that, (again no disrespect!), you look a bit on the heavy side, meaning that your back will push you forward at least 4-6 inches from the back of the seat (10-15 cm) if not more.
Because of the belly (again I stress on the 'no disrespect'!, just objective observations to put things in perspective), you will not be able to sit completely straight either, leading to some extra inches that you cover.

combine that with the same for the correct position for the drivers seat and yes it comes to a picture like the one you took.

Putting this in the correct perspective, the carwow review from one of the previous posts gave a better view on the legroom.

Attachment 1915871

This guy is 5'8" (179,5cm), so no super tall, but add like 2 inches and you have already a rather tall person.

the driver is over 6' he says...

Look at the legroom he still has left??

So, I wonder if it's not the combination of the above that leads you to no having enough legroom?
Nope. Reasonable discussion you raise, and no misrepresentation of anything, just reality. Nothing personal about it, and no intention here to portray the 2nd row seat any more or less than what it actually, objectively, is. I'm between 6'2" and 6'3". Tall guy, overweight, but not super obese fat.

The average American male is 5'10", meaning I'm between 4" and 5" taller than average. I do respectfully point out that if you believe 5'10" is "rather tall", it's only average. 50% of American men will be shorter than that, and 50% taller. The guy in the video you reference is indeed shorter than average, and the 2nd row seat works great for him. As one of the tall guys, when I drive some manufacturers, I find I have to slide the driver's seat full back to the stops, but with BMW's, I usually find the driver's seat has the capability to go even further than needed, and I slide it back up some.

That's the case in my 3-series, which fits me more than fine, and I slide the seat up. Someone can still sit behind me in my 330i, but obviously it's very cramped. The 3-series certainly isn't designed for a full time family car for a tall family of 4 or more. It's my personal daily driver, not the family car. I wouldn't expect a compact car to be a tall family road trip car, but looking for a car with that as a goal, full-size sedans and SUV's are the ones that *may* provide that. Hence looking at the 6er GT, 7-series, X5, and X7. The 6er GT and 7-series provide that room and more, but not finding that in the X5.

Remember, for that picture, I said I put the front seat in a position for me to *reasonably* drive. Not optimal. If I were driving the car alone, with nobody in the back seat, I'd slide the seat back even further, for more driving comfort, which would make that 2nd row even more cramped. That picture is NOT with the front seat fully slid back. But a reasonable driving position for me, personally. Take my legs out of that 2nd row picture, and you still have the same physical space there, regardless of who the passenger is. Perhaps I'll go back and take another picture of what the 2nd row looks like empty with the front seat when it really is in the full back position.

The G05 2nd row legroom isn't terrible by any means. I'm sure it'll suit lots of families just fine that are of average height, or those that have small children riding in the 2nd row. Just not what I'm looking for, for a tall family, to take very comfortable road trips.

I personally don't like to recline my seats, and even often find myself raising seats after driving after someone else, even skinny people. (with the rear door in the way, I had to angle the camera a bit to take that picture, which may be why you're thinking recline) Now... the 2nd row G05 seats are a little reclined, as you'll see, (actually a little more than I find optimal, but they're just fine) but they don't adjust. And wow... that would have to be one fat person to push their body "at least 4-6 inches forward or more" when they're seated!

So, you're right--objectively, the X5 2nd row works for many people, and not for others. Seems my family's in the 2nd group. Good discussion!

Last edited by Wild Blue; 10-12-2018 at 10:01 AM..
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 08:49 AM   #49
mbhammer
Hammer
United_States
203
Rep
202
Posts

Drives: 2014 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Midwest USA

iTrader: (0)

To my eye, those 22" wheels make even MSport brakes look disproportionately tiny.
__________________
2019 BMW X5 40i
2014 MB E63 AMG
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 08:53 AM   #50
Alan l.
Major General
Alan l.'s Avatar
5343
Rep
8,774
Posts

Drives: 2020 F95 X5M Competition
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: United States

iTrader: (9)

This is the best comparison with the F15 and G05 X5 thus far. I've had both the F15 Msport and a F85 X5M within the last 3-4 years and its still the best looking suv in its class.

With that said this G05 is a massive upgrade from the inside and the outside except for the buck tooth grill on the new car. Visually the G05 looks sportier and more modern all around. Interior wise its light years ahead of the F15 and that was also light years ahead of the E70. If bmw made that front grill 30-40% smaller it would have been the perfect update to the F15. Blacking out the grill and painting the middle section of the grill will help but not sure if it will be enough. A all black grill that big will just look like there is a gaping hole in the front of the car. Maybe doing it in dark chrome shadow color would be the best option with the middle painted body color so it can visually still have two separate grills instead of one ginormous one.

Alan
__________________
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 09:00 AM   #51
SCA
Brigadier General
SCA's Avatar
United_States
563
Rep
3,742
Posts

Drives: Multiple BMWs
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: 🇺🇸

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan l. View Post
If bmw made that front grill 30-40% smaller it would have been the perfect update to the F15. Blacking out the grill and painting the middle section of the grill will help but not sure if it will be enough. A all black grill that big will just look like there is a gaping hole in the front of the car.

Alan
+1
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 09:35 AM   #52
Beefcake
Second Lieutenant
Belgium
188
Rep
236
Posts

Drives: X5 45e (2021) / 428i (2014)
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by GeeRam View Post
comfort access being included in the 'comfort pack' being the major issue for me, because of the theft problem via comfort access in the UK.
Could be the deal breaker for me in not buying a G05, unless that photo of the key fob means it may be possible to switch off comfort access via the fob?
On the new 3-series, the digital key has a motion sensor that notices when it lies flat. Then the comfort access signal stops sending. This is BMW's answer to the Comfort Access thefts.

Hopefully this is present in the G05 digital key as well?
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 09:39 AM   #53
ScottMZ3
Captain
United_States
439
Rep
790
Posts

Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1, 2019 X5 40i
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Roseville, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefcake View Post
On the new 3-series, the digital key has a motion sensor that notices when it lies flat. Then the comfort access signal stops sending. This is BMW's answer to the Comfort Access thefts.

Hopefully this is present in the G05 digital key as well?
Yes. The G05 key does the same thing, confirmed during dealer training.
__________________
- Scott
Current Cars: 2019 X5 xDrive40i M-Sport, 2018 Camaro ZL1
Past BMWs: '16 528i, '00 M-Coupe, '14 X1 sDrive28i, '00 740iL, '02 325i, '99 M-Coupe, '00 323Ci, '79 323i, '83 320i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 09:47 AM   #54
Beefcake
Second Lieutenant
Belgium
188
Rep
236
Posts

Drives: X5 45e (2021) / 428i (2014)
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Belgium

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wild Blue View Post

Remember, for that picture, I said I put the front seat in a position for me to *reasonably* drive. Not optimal. If I were driving the car alone, with nobody in the back seat, I'd slide the seat back even further, for more driving comfort, which would make that 2nd row even more cramped. That picture is NOT with the front seat fully slid back. But a reasonable driving position for me, personally. Take my legs out of that 2nd row picture, and you still have the same physical space there, regardless of who the passenger is. Perhaps I'll go back and take another picture of what the 2nd row looks like empty with the front seat when it really is in the full back position.

I personally don't like to recline my seats, and even often find myself raising seats after driving after someone else, even skinny people. (with the rear door in the way, I had to angle the camera a bit to take that picture, which may be why you're thinking recline)
ok, I'll have experience it myself.

Since when I look at your picture and the picture of the Carwow review, I notice that the middle pilars position is like 8 inches more to the front in your picture (compared to the back of the front seat) than that of the Carwow driver.
His seat is directly next (or even a bit in front of the middle pilar) and that drivers less than 3 inches smaller?

Anyhow, very detailed review, good comparison with the previous model and some good things to know!

thanks!
Appreciate 1
Wild Blue3676.50
      10-12-2018, 09:50 AM   #55
SoCali E36
BMW Client Advisor
SoCali E36's Avatar
United_States
999
Rep
3,526
Posts

Drives: X5 40e/e36 M3 Sedan
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Where the road takes me...

iTrader: (10)

I have to say, the f15 DOES NOT look dated next to the new X5.
__________________
Appreciate 1
      10-12-2018, 10:06 AM   #56
Wild Blue
Brigadier General
Wild Blue's Avatar
United_States
3677
Rep
3,479
Posts

Drives: 2021 X7 M50i, 2004 330i w/ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Alaska

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan l. View Post
This is the best comparison with the F15 and G05 X5 thus far. I've had both the F15 Msport and a F85 X5M within the last 3-4 years and its still the best looking suv in its class.

With that said this G05 is a massive upgrade from the inside and the outside except for the buck tooth grill on the new car. Visually the G05 looks sportier and more modern all around. Interior wise its light years ahead of the F15 and that was also light years ahead of the E70. If bmw made that front grill 30-40% smaller it would have been the perfect update to the F15. Blacking out the grill and painting the middle section of the grill will help but not sure if it will be enough. A all black grill that big will just look like there is a gaping hole in the front of the car. Maybe doing it in dark chrome shadow color would be the best option with the middle painted body color so it can visually still have two separate grills instead of one ginormous one.

Alan
Alan, you bring up a good point. Look carefully at the middle of the grills on the F15 vs the G05. Like most BMW's to date, the F15 has two separate grills, with a thin strip of body-colored material in between. The G05 grills have grown so large, they smush up against each other, so there is no body colored material in between them, and it's one continuous piece of chrome.

Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 10:22 AM   #57
ted99
Lieutenant
United_States
242
Rep
535
Posts

Drives: former i3>330e, 528i>X5>530e
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JRobUSC View Post
Pretty sure that button with the pic of the seat and the "2" on it is a "gentleman's control", so the person in the drivers seat can move the passenger seat (driver presses that button, and the seat controls on the drivers seat move the passenger seat instead).
Is this a Middle East thing? My fully specced USA F15 doesn't have it.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 10:24 AM   #58
roxxor
Major
roxxor's Avatar
1120
Rep
1,124
Posts

Drives: 2024 iX50
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Florida

iTrader: (7)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ted99 View Post
Is this a Middle East thing? My fully specced USA F15 doesn't have it.
Apparently it's one of those "most regions besides the US" things, as I've seen pictures/retrofits of it on the 5 and 7 from Middle East/Asia regions.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 10:39 AM   #59
desertfox73
Banned
676
Rep
1,020
Posts

Drives: 2018 F83 / 2018 F85
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Nashville, Tennessee

iTrader: (0)

My few comments:

1. LOL at the commenters in other parts of the forum criticizing Mercedes and others for having a "discotheque" atmosphere lighting inside...the X5 looks like a rolling night club.

2. Seats look fantastic.

3. Rear end bump-out seems too low in my opinion...previous gen bump-out was more mid-waistline. This almost looks droopy (to me) like bell bottom pants.

4. The grill has moved from being "part of the front-end design" to being THE front end design. Everything else is just window dressing. In pictures the front end doesn't translate well in my view, maybe it'll be better in person.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 11:27 AM   #60
Falafel Combo
Banned
United_States
3767
Rep
6,673
Posts

Drives: X5 xDrive50i
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New England

iTrader: (3)

Is there a reason we need to make gear shifters that look like pimp sticks? Who knows where that thing has been! Eww ...







Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 11:49 AM   #61
ScottMZ3
Captain
United_States
439
Rep
790
Posts

Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1, 2019 X5 40i
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Roseville, CA

iTrader: (0)

The YouTube reviews of the US spec 40i do show the "Gentleman's Control" button on the driver's door. This screen grab was taken from the MotorWeek review. This car has the Luxury Seating Package (you can see the top portion of the seat is independently adjustable), so maybe it comes as part of that package. See below:
Attached Images
 
__________________
- Scott
Current Cars: 2019 X5 xDrive40i M-Sport, 2018 Camaro ZL1
Past BMWs: '16 528i, '00 M-Coupe, '14 X1 sDrive28i, '00 740iL, '02 325i, '99 M-Coupe, '00 323Ci, '79 323i, '83 320i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 12:35 PM   #62
mrickard
Private
12
Rep
51
Posts

Drives: 2019 BMW X5
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (0)

Thank you for the incredible write up and pictures. Very helpful! Can't wait to get mine. I have to say I AM a fan of the big grill. I wasn't sure how I felt when the G05 was first revealed, but now I think the grill and other redesigns make the car look more athletic. But to each his/her own.
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 12:43 PM   #63
woodrowx5
Private
112
Rep
68
Posts

Drives: '19 X5 40 on order week 43
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Flow rida

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for all the great stuff here. Very informative! Can anyone tell me if the US gets the display key and if the hitch is ordered, is it like the electronic one shown in these pics? I understand it to be just a receiver for a common hitch, but who knows. Thank you
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 12:51 PM   #64
ScottMZ3
Captain
United_States
439
Rep
790
Posts

Drives: 2018 Camaro ZL1, 2019 X5 40i
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Roseville, CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodrowx5 View Post
Thanks for all the great stuff here. Very informative! Can anyone tell me if the US gets the display key and if the hitch is ordered, is it like the electronic one shown in these pics? I understand it to be just a receiver for a common hitch, but who knows. Thank you
No Display Key for the US X5.

The US trailer hitch is not the electronic one shown...you are correct, its the standard receiver that can be hidden behind a removable trim panel in the bumper (from the photo I have seen).
__________________
- Scott
Current Cars: 2019 X5 xDrive40i M-Sport, 2018 Camaro ZL1
Past BMWs: '16 528i, '00 M-Coupe, '14 X1 sDrive28i, '00 740iL, '02 325i, '99 M-Coupe, '00 323Ci, '79 323i, '83 320i
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 01:43 PM   #65
woodrowx5
Private
112
Rep
68
Posts

Drives: '19 X5 40 on order week 43
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Flow rida

iTrader: (0)

Thanks Scott, looking forward to pics of your M-Sport when she arrives!
Appreciate 0
      10-12-2018, 01:59 PM   #66
CntryClub007
Major
CntryClub007's Avatar
490
Rep
1,067
Posts

Drives: 2016 340i | 2015 X5-50i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (8)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottMZ3 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by woodrowx5 View Post
Thanks for all the great stuff here. Very informative! Can anyone tell me if the US gets the display key and if the hitch is ordered, is it like the electronic one shown in these pics? I understand it to be just a receiver for a common hitch, but who knows. Thank you
No Display Key for the US X5.

The US trailer hitch is not the electronic one shown...you are correct, its the standard receiver that can be hidden behind a removable trim panel in the bumper (from the photo I have seen).
To confirm - the US hitch does in fact have a trim cover? Would be awesome if that is the case for ours arriving in December. I haven't found a picture of it anywhere.

Below pic showing an exposed hitch receiver from the configurator.
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:04 AM.




xbimmers
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST