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10-12-2018, 07:32 AM | #46 |
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Brilliant write up and photos
Really like almost all the new stuff with the G05....... but, Only two concerns I have now over the G05 is with the bundling of the options into packs (no doubt due to WLTP testing) meaning I have to have options I don't want to get some stuff I do want , comfort access being included in the 'comfort pack' being the major issue for me, because of the theft problem via comfort access in the UK. Could be the deal breaker for me in not buying a G05, unless that photo of the key fob means it may be possible to switch off comfort access via the fob? Only other issue for me is I've just noticed that even the non-MSport models now have staggered tyre sizes, so no all-season tyre option, which again for me, could be a deal breaker
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10-12-2018, 07:42 AM | #47 |
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There are two non-staggered wheel and tire options for non-M Sport models, at least in the US FWIW. Neither the 19" nor 20" wheel options have staggered wheels/tires.
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The average American male is 5'10", meaning I'm between 4" and 5" taller than average. I do respectfully point out that if you believe 5'10" is "rather tall", it's only average. 50% of American men will be shorter than that, and 50% taller. The guy in the video you reference is indeed shorter than average, and the 2nd row seat works great for him. As one of the tall guys, when I drive some manufacturers, I find I have to slide the driver's seat full back to the stops, but with BMW's, I usually find the driver's seat has the capability to go even further than needed, and I slide it back up some. That's the case in my 3-series, which fits me more than fine, and I slide the seat up. Someone can still sit behind me in my 330i, but obviously it's very cramped. The 3-series certainly isn't designed for a full time family car for a tall family of 4 or more. It's my personal daily driver, not the family car. I wouldn't expect a compact car to be a tall family road trip car, but looking for a car with that as a goal, full-size sedans and SUV's are the ones that *may* provide that. Hence looking at the 6er GT, 7-series, X5, and X7. The 6er GT and 7-series provide that room and more, but not finding that in the X5. Remember, for that picture, I said I put the front seat in a position for me to *reasonably* drive. Not optimal. If I were driving the car alone, with nobody in the back seat, I'd slide the seat back even further, for more driving comfort, which would make that 2nd row even more cramped. That picture is NOT with the front seat fully slid back. But a reasonable driving position for me, personally. Take my legs out of that 2nd row picture, and you still have the same physical space there, regardless of who the passenger is. Perhaps I'll go back and take another picture of what the 2nd row looks like empty with the front seat when it really is in the full back position. The G05 2nd row legroom isn't terrible by any means. I'm sure it'll suit lots of families just fine that are of average height, or those that have small children riding in the 2nd row. Just not what I'm looking for, for a tall family, to take very comfortable road trips. I personally don't like to recline my seats, and even often find myself raising seats after driving after someone else, even skinny people. (with the rear door in the way, I had to angle the camera a bit to take that picture, which may be why you're thinking recline) Now... the 2nd row G05 seats are a little reclined, as you'll see, (actually a little more than I find optimal, but they're just fine) but they don't adjust. And wow... that would have to be one fat person to push their body "at least 4-6 inches forward or more" when they're seated! So, you're right--objectively, the X5 2nd row works for many people, and not for others. Seems my family's in the 2nd group. Good discussion! Last edited by Wild Blue; 10-12-2018 at 10:01 AM.. |
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This is the best comparison with the F15 and G05 X5 thus far. I've had both the F15 Msport and a F85 X5M within the last 3-4 years and its still the best looking suv in its class.
With that said this G05 is a massive upgrade from the inside and the outside except for the buck tooth grill on the new car. Visually the G05 looks sportier and more modern all around. Interior wise its light years ahead of the F15 and that was also light years ahead of the E70. If bmw made that front grill 30-40% smaller it would have been the perfect update to the F15. Blacking out the grill and painting the middle section of the grill will help but not sure if it will be enough. A all black grill that big will just look like there is a gaping hole in the front of the car. Maybe doing it in dark chrome shadow color would be the best option with the middle painted body color so it can visually still have two separate grills instead of one ginormous one. Alan
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Hopefully this is present in the G05 digital key as well? |
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10-12-2018, 09:39 AM | #53 |
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Yes. The G05 key does the same thing, confirmed during dealer training.
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Since when I look at your picture and the picture of the Carwow review, I notice that the middle pilars position is like 8 inches more to the front in your picture (compared to the back of the front seat) than that of the Carwow driver. His seat is directly next (or even a bit in front of the middle pilar) and that drivers less than 3 inches smaller? Anyhow, very detailed review, good comparison with the previous model and some good things to know! thanks! |
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10-12-2018, 10:22 AM | #57 |
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Is this a Middle East thing? My fully specced USA F15 doesn't have it.
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My few comments:
1. LOL at the commenters in other parts of the forum criticizing Mercedes and others for having a "discotheque" atmosphere lighting inside...the X5 looks like a rolling night club. 2. Seats look fantastic. 3. Rear end bump-out seems too low in my opinion...previous gen bump-out was more mid-waistline. This almost looks droopy (to me) like bell bottom pants. 4. The grill has moved from being "part of the front-end design" to being THE front end design. Everything else is just window dressing. In pictures the front end doesn't translate well in my view, maybe it'll be better in person. |
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The YouTube reviews of the US spec 40i do show the "Gentleman's Control" button on the driver's door. This screen grab was taken from the MotorWeek review. This car has the Luxury Seating Package (you can see the top portion of the seat is independently adjustable), so maybe it comes as part of that package. See below:
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Thank you for the incredible write up and pictures. Very helpful! Can't wait to get mine. I have to say I AM a fan of the big grill. I wasn't sure how I felt when the G05 was first revealed, but now I think the grill and other redesigns make the car look more athletic. But to each his/her own.
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Thanks for all the great stuff here. Very informative! Can anyone tell me if the US gets the display key and if the hitch is ordered, is it like the electronic one shown in these pics? I understand it to be just a receiver for a common hitch, but who knows. Thank you
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The US trailer hitch is not the electronic one shown...you are correct, its the standard receiver that can be hidden behind a removable trim panel in the bumper (from the photo I have seen).
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Below pic showing an exposed hitch receiver from the configurator. |
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