[Darkfleet]

they should've used the entire screen

[domino_z]

That is a disaster

Who was like yep, looks perfect, put it in production

Reminds me of the dash you get on an unlock car in need for speed 20 years ago where you know the game designers spent all of 15 minutes creating it

Meanwhile Audi's like hold my beer

[AP]

And whilst looking at that you run into the back of the car ahead which has just stopped.

No this is too much detail in the wrong place, an ergonomic disaster.

If you you look at hardware in general (not just cars) and look at the difference between consumer and professional versions you will see that professional is geared up for function alone, it is there to get its particular job done. The approach to consumer hardware is different where it seems to have lots of flashing lights, bling, fiddly controls and a wow factor to appeal to people who don't know.
This dashboard to me seems to be like that to me.

[advantage20]

Now this would look even cooler, with thicker color bands and 3D first person view GPS (8 Series Concept). Constant over the air updates will probably evolve towards this design.

[AP]

Just my opinion but that looks absolutely hideous.

[ILM_X5]

Originally Posted by ScottMZ3

Also keep in mind that the entire iDrive 7.0 OS can be upgraded to new releases over the air for free from BMW. I believe I remember the trainer saying 3 years are covered for major updates and 10 years for security related fixes to the OS.

Not sure about the duration supported for OTA updates, but BMW NA provides the following:

"...Over-the-Air (OTA) updates for map data up to 4 times annually are also included"

For those who are unsatisfied with the launch layout and who actually have standing as an affected or potentially impacted consumer, reach out to BMW and voice your concerns. That seems like a much more constructive use of your time than complaining on here.

My .02

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by Racer20

My S4 has full color, full width google maps in the driver's display if I want it. It's far more configurable with better styling and better graphics. This looks gimmicky, over styled, and last-gen. Pretty disappointing. BMW is falling behind in more and more ways to Audi.

That's pretty much the ONLY thing Audi has over BMW...

[2001S15]

Note how the screen image doesn't even bleed to the edge of the enclosure... instead it seems to have its own unique shape that doesn't even match the shape of the enclosure with an ugly misshapen black section around it.



Compare this to the Audi Virtual Cockpit where the screen image bleeds all the way to the edge of the plastic enclosure. In practice this likely means Audi has screen pixels that are obscured by the enclosure - a little bit more $$ spent to make the interior look better. :-/

[roxxor]

Originally Posted by 2001S15

Note how the screen image doesn't even bleed to the edge of the enclosure... instead it seems to have its own unique shape that doesn't even match the shape of the enclosure with an ugly misshapen black section around it.

Compare this to the Audi Virtual Cockpit where the screen image bleeds all the way to the edge of the plastic enclosure. In practice this likely means Audi has screen pixels that are obscured by the enclosure - a little bit more $$ spent to make the interior look better. :-/

Don't know how I missed this until reading your post, and now I can't unsee it...

[fbuzila]

Originally Posted by roxxor

Don't know how I missed this until reading your post, and now I can't unsee it...

that was the very first thing I noticed and disliked

[Racer20]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

That's pretty much the ONLY thing Audi has over BMW...

Interior quality kills BMW, ride/handling (for non-M cars), engines/trans are about equal, styling is subjective, but I prefer recent Audi's.

BMW's brakes are superior, and M cars are much better sports cars than any Audi, but now that BMW is ditching manuals, I don't see any reason to get, say, an M340i or 540i over and S4 or A6.

[M3GymNut]

Originally Posted by Racer20

Interior quality kills BMW, ride/handling (for non-M cars), engines/trans are about equal, styling is subjective, but I prefer recent Audi's.

BMW's brakes are superior, and M cars are much better sports cars than any Audi, but now that BMW is ditching manuals, I don't see any reason to get, say, an M340i or 540i over and S4 or A6.

Interesting point. You wouldn't recommend any performance sports vehicle from audi?

[JRobUSC]

Originally Posted by 2001S15

Note how the screen image doesn't even bleed to the edge of the enclosure... instead it seems to have its own unique shape that doesn't even match the shape of the enclosure with an ugly misshapen black section around it.



Compare this to the Audi Virtual Cockpit where the screen image bleeds all the way to the edge of the plastic enclosure. In practice this likely means Audi has screen pixels that are obscured by the enclosure - a little bit more $$ spent to make the interior look better. :-/

Now draw some arrows towards the plain, cheap looking gas and temp gauges off to the left and ride side of the screen in the Audi.

I've used the Audi Virtual Cockpit. Does it look cool? Sure. It's designed to "wow" people, to impress them on a 20 minute test drive. In reality, having that giant, bright map spinning around in front of your face while you're driving is a distraction at best, and downright disorienting at worst. BMW could've easily mimicked the Audi system, but chose not to. BMW's implementation is less flashy, but much cleaner.

Anyway, if you like the "gee whiz wow" factor of the Audi system, good for you. Get yours soon though, so you have a year or so with it, because no later than the end of 2020, the Google Maps overlay won't work anymore on any 2018 and older Audi's.

[Doc5513]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

Now draw some arrows towards the plain, cheap looking gas and temp gauges off to the left and ride side of the screen in the Audi.

I've used the Audi Virtual Cockpit. Does it look cool? Sure. It's designed to "wow" people, to impress them on a 20 minute test drive. In reality, having that giant, bright map spinning around in front of your face while you're driving is a distraction at best, and downright disorienting at worst. BMW could've easily mimicked the Audi system, but chose not to. BMW's implementation is less flashy, but much cleaner.

Anyway, if you like the "gee whiz wow" factor of the Audi system, good for you. Get yours soon though, so you have a year or so with it, because no later than the end of 2020, the Google Maps overlay won't work anymore on any 2018 and older Audi's.

I was going to point that out too as I just compared the Audi Q5 and Q7 in recent test drives and the salesman confirmed google maps going away. We have had several Audi sedans in the last, and I do love the Quattro. But outside of arguments for or against the virtual cockpit the X5 is just an overall better vehicle. The Q7 is subpar. The Q8 interior looks like it’s heading in the right direction..but that exterior es no bueno.

[530iDriver]

Originally Posted by Doc5513

I was going to point that out too as I just compared the Audi Q5 and Q7 in recent test drives and the salesman confirmed google maps going away. We have had several Audi sedans in the last, and I do love the Quattro. But outside of arguments for or against the virtual cockpit the X5 is just an overall better vehicle. The Q7 is subpar. The Q8 interior looks like it's heading in the right direction..but that exterior es no bueno.

Some people complaint about the Audi virtual cockpit be too bright at night...

https://www.audi-sport.net/xf/thread...htness.320710/

[///M-pressed]

The digital cluster in my Golf looks better than that. Bit of a disappointment.

[JayPichardo]

Here is part 2 answering some of your questions

[mnx5er]

Thanks for the video Jay. I love this thread and the passionate arguments both ways. BMW owners are great and I’m guessing this debate will go on for a long time.

[Racer20]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

Interesting point. You wouldn't recommend any performance sports vehicle from audi?

I haven't driven any of the RS series cars. But for me, a sports car has to be happy on the racetrack. M cars are. Read reviews of any RS model and it's clear that they weren't developed with that as a top priority. I'm sure they are brilliant up to 8/10's, but for my weekend toy, I want a car that's good to 10/10.

[Racer20]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

Now draw some arrows towards the plain, cheap looking gas and temp gauges off to the left and ride side of the screen in the Audi.

I've used the Audi Virtual Cockpit. Does it look cool? Sure. It's designed to "wow" people, to impress them on a 20 minute test drive. In reality, having that giant, bright map spinning around in front of your face while you're driving is a distraction at best, and downright disorienting at worst. BMW could've easily mimicked the Audi system, but chose not to. BMW's implementation is less flashy, but much cleaner.

Anyway, if you like the "gee whiz wow" factor of the Audi system, good for you. Get yours soon though, so you have a year or so with it, because no later than the end of 2020, the Google Maps overlay won't work anymore on any 2018 and older Audi's.

So hit "view" and get a more standardized set up with the speedo/tach front and center. The Audi implementation gives you plenty of options for configuration.

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by NH_F36

Here is part 2 answering some of your questions

(snip)

Man, Jay, I really appreciate you posting these vids and answering questions. So helpful. I don't know if you can arrange delivery on the other coast, but I'll definitely keep you in mind for my next Bimmer. (next few months?)

[hinckley]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

Man, Jay, I really appreciate you posting these vids and answering questions. So helpful. I don't know if you can arrange delivery on the other coast, but I'll definitely keep you in mind for my next Bimmer. (next few months?)

^^ This. But I'm not so far away!