[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by Marty in NY

I bought the tape for my wife's GTi as it had the same torsion squeak as being talked about here. Thing is, it only happened after I detailed her car and put wax on the metal portion of the body door frame area where the door closes to the body of the car. Tried all sorts of things to get rid of it including the tape but to no avail. I have removed the tape and used a spray detergent cleaner on the felt (or whatever its made out of) gasket that is at the top of the door frame. I'm not talking about the black rubber seal, rather what looks like a thin rubber seal with a felt like substance attached to it. When the door is closed, its this rubber seal with the felt substance that you see when standing outside the car. This is the first barrier to rain that the door has.
After several cleaning attempts, the noise is 80% gone but the 20% still bugs me. I hesitate putting Gummipflege or anything else on it as it did not come that way from the factory and it didn't squeak till I detailed it. Sorry, I don't have pix at this writing but here is a copy of the one already posted that I annotated to try and get some clarity as to where you are putting the Gummipflege.
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todd92, where exactly did you put the Gummipflege? Take a look at the pic I posted in this thread and tell us.

[todd92]

I answered that several posts ago. I put it on both the rubber and the felt, liberally. Noise went away.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by todd92

I answered that several posts ago. I put it on both the rubber and the felt, liberally. Noise went away.

Sorry, I see that post now, thanks.

[Frenetic]

Before buying something new, I wanted to see if using something I already had on hand would work. I applied Aerospace 303 on the door seals and all other contacts points and it's quiet now. Not sure how long it will last, but this stuff worked just the same.

I originally got this stuff to use on my Lexus' sunroof seal as it was known to dry and crack and eventually fail. Ever since, I typically apply this to all rubber seals, but just never got around to it on this car.

[Usher9387]

[FCX5]

Originally Posted by Frenetic

Before buying something new, I wanted to see if using something I already had on hand would work. I applied Aerospace 303 on the door seals and all other contacts points and it's quiet now. Not sure how long it will last, but this stuff worked just the same.

I originally got this stuff to use on my Lexus' sunroof seal as it was known to dry and crack and eventually fail. Ever since, I typically apply this to all rubber seals, but just never got around to it on this car.

Yup. I believe it is what is used on the seals of aircraft doors and such. From what I know, if you apply a spray, you need to repeat it every 2-3 months. 👍🏻

[gofast182]

Thank God someone posted about this. It drives me crazy when I drive my wife's car.

[X5_CC]

In case this helps anyone, I finally found the source of the buzz in the door that buzzes when listening to talk radio and someone with a deep voice is speaking.

The source is a tiny little trim piece inside the door pull that I assume covers a screw. I can't see it, only feel it with my fingertips. I'm planning to just put a piece of scotch tape on it, because just barely touching the piece stops the buzzing.

[rebekahb]

I don't know that mine is exactly a door squeak. It sounds like the whole interior frame of my car creaks and cracks when I'm driving. It's absolutely awful that a car of this price range would sound like it does. My X5 is garage kept & gets detailed once a month. I'm going to try and get a sound video next time I drive.

[Paul-in-MA]

Back in the 90's a Honda dealer gave me a tube of silicone to apply to the rubber gasket on a huge sunroof that was creaking. Worked fantastic. After some searching I see it is still available today. It's called Honda Shin-Etsu Grease 08798-9013. This video helped me locate the name of the product:

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by Paul-in-MA

Back in the 90's a Honda dealer gave me a tube of silicone to apply to the rubber gasket on a huge sunroof that was creaking. Worked fantastic. After some searching I see it is still available today. It's called Honda Shin-Etsu Grease 08798-9013. This video helped me locate the name of the product:

I had a then brand new 98 Accord Coupe V6 and same thing, dealer gave me a tube of that grease for the sunroof seal.
Worked like a charm.

[pragueX5]

Originally Posted by rebekahb

I don't know that mine is exactly a door squeak. It sounds like the whole interior frame of my car creaks and cracks when I'm driving. It's absolutely awful that a car of this price range would sound like it does. My X5 is garage kept & gets detailed once a month. I'm going to try and get a sound video next time I drive.

Originally Posted by rebekahb

I don't know that mine is exactly a door squeak. It sounds like the whole interior frame of my car creaks and cracks when I'm driving. It's absolutely awful that a car of this price range would sound like it does. My X5 is garage kept & gets detailed once a month. I'm going to try and get a sound video next time I drive.

exactly - detail every month. its actually all those chemicals and polishes and waxes that contaminate the rubber seals and then creating the squeaking) just a fact

[scottomfg]

Just wanted to thank the prior posters for this thread, wish I had seen it earlier but I guess it's been a while since anyone has had this issue. I first started getting a creaking issue on the drivers door right by my ear a couple months ago. The creak wasn't *too* bad, and since I wasn't aware of an easy solution it kept getting moved to the "I'll deal with that later" list.

For me, the technique of just pushing on various parts of the door until you reached a creaky part worked like a charm. Then I used masking tape to do a dry-run and pinpoint the exact part of the frame that needed to be covered. Got it on the first try. Creak was 100% gone, I was amazed at how completely a simple piece of tape silenced it. From total exasperation to silent bliss.

I ordered some of the Polyethylene Film Tape (https://amzn.to/36rE9xu) others have used and will replace the masking tape then. Easy peasy. Second time in a week I've been helped by this forum, thanks everyone for contributing.

(Don't know why photo is sideways, has proper orientation prior to uploading.)

[kjx]

Originally Posted by scottomfg

Just wanted to thank the prior posters for this thread, wish I had seen it earlier but I guess it's been a while since anyone has had this issue. I first started getting a creaking issue on the drivers door right by my ear a couple months ago. The creak wasn't *too* bad, and since I wasn't aware of an easy solution it kept getting moved to the "I'll deal with that later" list.

For me, the technique of just pushing on various parts of the door until you reached a creaky part worked like a charm. Then I used masking tape to do a dry-run and pinpoint the exact part of the frame that needed to be covered. Got it on the first try. Creak was 100% gone, I was amazed at how completely a simple piece of tape silenced it. From total exasperation to silent bliss.

I ordered some of the Polyethylene Film Tape (https://amzn.to/36rE9xu) others have used and will replace the masking tape then. Easy peasy. Second time in a week I've been helped by this forum, thanks everyone for contributing.

(Don't know why photo is sideways, has proper orientation prior to uploading.)

I have what seems to be what you're describing on my wife's X5 almost from a little after we got it. The dealer first replaced door seals. Then they replaced the door panel (some $3500 part) including speaker cover. Each time, the problem would go away for 2-3 months and then come back. It's back now and I hate hearing it in an otherwise silent car. Since parts take time to come, Ive done 4-5 visits now - once for the diagnosis and once for the fix. It seems to be primarily caused by body flex from a change in slope at very low speeds (garage to sloping driveway to flat road at 1-2 mph), and then later it progressively proceeds to become almost a rattle on bad roads.

Anyway to the real question - I can't make out where you applied tape in your photo. (On my phone at least). Do you have a pic where you can point out what was done?

[scottomfg]

Originally Posted by kjx

I have what seems to be what you're describing on my wife's X5 almost from a little after we got it. The dealer first replaced door seals. Then they replaced the door panel (some $3500 part) including speaker cover. Each time, the problem would go away for 2-3 months and then come back. It's back now and I hate hearing it in an otherwise silent car. Since parts take time to come, Ive done 4-5 visits now - once for the diagnosis and once for the fix. It seems to be primarily caused by body flex from a change in slope at very low speeds (garage to sloping driveway to flat road at 1-2 mph), and then later it progressively proceeds to become almost a rattle on bad roads.

Anyway to the real question - I can't make out where you applied tape in your photo. (On my phone at least). Do you have a pic where you can point out what was done?

Rotate the photo 90°, blue tape is top right of door opening. See center console in background for orientation.

And yes, creaks were when going over bumps or even low speed turning, anything flexing the chassis.

[kjx]

Originally Posted by scottomfg

Rotate the photo 90°, blue tape is top right of door opening. See center console in background for orientation.

And yes, creaks were when going over bumps or even low speed turning, anything flexing the chassis.

That looks too simple to be true. You're getting my hopes up. If it works, it also means BMW wasted several thousand dollars in parts, investigations and labor. Fingers crossed this is all I need. Thanks for sharing!

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by kjx

Anyway to the real question - I can't make out where you applied tape in your photo. (On my phone at least). Do you have a pic where you can point out what was done?

Each squeak may be in a different location and you may have more than one and on more than one door. Go around the entire car, pressing on the top of the door (window frame) and note where the squeaks are and those will be the places you would put the tape. You could also just run a contiguous piece of tape along the entire surface. Once the tape is applied and pressed firmly, to get any air bubbles out, it basically become transparent but as you clean/wax the car, the edge may show as that's where it will catch any wax. Still, pretty hard to notice unless you intentionally want to

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[skyline408]

I had the dreaded squeak - my fault really, as I used some sort of cleaner wax on the door jamb areas and it did not play nicely with the rubber seals.

Even with a good wiping of 90% alcohol didn't remedy it. I did the gummi phledge on all the rubber seals and it did nothing.

Finally, on another thread I read here ordered some 1" thick strips of PPF film and just applied it around where the blue tape is shown and it eliminated 95% of the squeak. I still here it on occasion, but it's probably just due to how stiff the chassis is on my F95.

[X5_CC]

If your window frames creak over bumps, you can spray a little silicone spray onto a towel and rub it into the felt strip that runs along the very top edge of the inside of the door, above the window. This completely silenced the door creaks for me.

[kjx]

Originally Posted by Marty in NY

Each squeak may be in a different location and you may have more than one and on more than one door. Go around the entire car, pressing on the top of the door (window frame) and note where the squeaks are and those will be the places you would put the tape. You could also just run a contiguous piece of tape along the entire surface. Once the tape is applied and pressed firmly, to get any air bubbles out, it basically become transparent but as you clean/wax the car, the edge may show as that's where it will catch any wax. Still, pretty hard to notice unless you intentionally want to

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I used masking tape like he did and omg it's gone. Completely silent. Crazy. I will tell my SA and the shop foreman when I go in for my next service. May get my detailer to PPF. This thread needs to be stickied.

[thenew3]

I did not have this problem in my E36 318is, E46 328i or my wife's F25 X3. But had it really bad in a E60 530i and now in my G07 X7.
The fix for me was to use gummypflange on the rubber seal around the doors and a couple of coats of real carnuba wax on the painted surface that these rubber door seals comes in contact with on the car. (Not synthetic wax, ceramic coating or anything else, just pure good old fashioned carnuba wax).
This will usually quiet it down for several months (sometimes as long as a year).

[MadSpirit]

Both BMW Gummipflege and Sonax work perfectly 👍
Same problem since E90 and now in G05 and G02.
First of all do not use silicone, it will make worse.
Put Gummipflege twice a year on all previously cleaned rubber seals.