[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by BMWFantastic85

Is there a 150K / 300K income limit? I would guess mass majority of buyers earn more than 150K / 300K.

Last I saw, a SUV needed 3-row seating to qualify for tax benefits under the Inflation Reduction Act. Did I miss something? People here seem to be dismissing this very-relevant requirement.

[Alan l.]

Originally Posted by bmwauug

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I dig the new tailights. Not an improvement over the current but different.

I really hate how the black portion of the bumper (mouth) bleeds into the black grills. It would look 10000x better if they visually kept it separated with paint in between the grill and mouth.

Alan

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by TacoTuesdays

Is the 3rd row making a comeback!? I know it’s laughably small, but I need it to toss a small kid into for sports etc.

Not here it isn’t. All versions listed as having 5 seats.

[T_U_D]

Did anyone notice this via the press release? The availability of 40 individual paint colors at SOP.

[TacoTuesdays]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Not here it isn’t. All versions listed as having 5 seats.

so I guess euro model only for op 3rd row? Bummer

[nZtiZia]

has anyone mentioned it already? the G05 LCI M Sport takes some body design cues from the current F95 ///M

or are these only on the M60i that’s pictured? meaning the 40i and 50e M Sport will look different?

[patt1289]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Not realistic at all. For example, for the 45e the current WLTP range is 54 miles and it is only 31 for the US.

I Live in Mid US and we get 42-46 Miles out of a full charge. The only day we got less (38) was when it was 4 degrees outside. I only run 5 to 7 MPH over the speed limit and rarely punch it in electric mode. It is my wifes daily drive and her work round trip is only 11 miles, so the battery only gets depleted on Sunday on our COSTCO run. I have had a few runs of 50 plus range at 55-60 mph. WLTP is the range under very controlled conditions on a rolling road at an average speed of 46 kph or about 28 mph. You're right WLTP is mostly fantasy, but not too far off if you drive like the test.

[Jason]

M-Sport X5 and X6

[P1]

Given the other atrocities BMW has come up with lately, it's refreshing to see they didn't ruin the X5.

That being said, I'm glad I ordered a '23 and was able to take advantage of the $7,500 credit. The 50e is going be an expensive puppy.

[ASAP]

Looks great to me... 40 extra hp on the 6 is huge... puts it on par w an x3 m40i now.

I wish they kept the 8 preset buttons and a real shifter but otherwise solid update.

[jphcbpa]

Originally Posted by Gadgetluva

Last year I had guessed that the 50e would be a $10-12k increase over the 45e, mostly due to the loss of the 7500 tax credit. Turns out the difference is over $14k. Glad I got my 2023.

Yep, rethinking waiting on picking up a good used 50e in a year or two. Hoping Bowers is a US option.

[Alan l.]

funny how the M60 has a bigger M badge on the grill than my X5M

[MaxechosM3]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

It is not expected too meet either of the new battery requirements so it wouldn't be eligible for the credit.

That’s odd the current one qualifies for the whole rebate. Are you sure?

[W///]

Originally Posted by Jason

M-Sport X5 and X6

Looking fantastic! I'd be happy with these as a DD

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by MaxechosM3

That’s odd the current one qualifies for the whole rebate. Are you sure?

it’s about timing. March is when a decision will be made about the battery requirements, so the current pre-LCI model qualifies AT LEAST until March. the LCI 50e won’t even start production until April, which is after the March decision so it doesn’t even qualify just based on timing.

he said it’s “expected” not to meet the new battery requirements, so we won’t know the real answer until then

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by MaxechosM3

That’s odd the current one qualifies for the whole rebate. Are you sure?

Forget the battery. Not having a 3rd row excludes all SUVs from the IRA tax benefits.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Influence

Looks like the most important option from a driving/handling perspective - the Dynamic Handling Package with the active anti-roll bars is gone for the LCI. No mention of it, just the adaptive dampers and dual-axle air suspension.

Shame as this is what makes these SUVs really drive like a BMW should. I wonder if it will still be available on the X5M LCI.

Maybe it’s now a better handling suv.

Isn’t it crazy how a nice feature that makes the car handle more accurately is discontinued…

On a safety aspect- handling and steering are important.

[MaxechosM3]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Forget the battery. Not having a 3rd row excludes all SUVs from the IRA tax benefits.

Ohh I forgot that. Yea looks like it’s not worth it then.

[Gadgetluva]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Forget the battery. Not having a 3rd row excludes all SUVs from the IRA tax benefits.

Not true anymore - the IRS updated guidelines to allow more vehicles to classify for the $80,000 MSRP, which is why now all Tesla Model Ys qualify for the full rebate until March when the Treasury Dept. releases battery guidance per the IRA (purportedly). Previously, many two-row SUVs only qualified for the $50,000 sedan credit.

If you look at the IRS website, you’ll see that the X5 45e fully qualifies currently until March, and that vehicle has no 3rd row.

[quad_drive]

Looking at the new taillights photos, where is the backup light? Is it just that tiny 1 inch square?
I already think the current backup lights are freakishly dim and dangerous.
It better have a super powerful bulb in it.

[quad_drive]

Originally Posted by Gadgetluva

Not true anymore - the IRS updated guidelines to allow more vehicles to classify for the $80,000 MSRP, which is why now all Tesla Model Ys qualify for the full rebate until March when the Treasury Dept. releases battery guidance per the IRA (purportedly). Previously, many two-row SUVs only qualified for the $50,000 sedan credit.

If you look at the IRS website, you’ll see that the X5 45e fully qualifies currently until March, and that vehicle has no 3rd row.

Is it expected the Tesla Model Y will lose the tax credit based on the battery origin requirements come March as well?

[TacoTuesdays]

Originally Posted by Quadruple VANOS

Forget the battery. Not having a 3rd row excludes all SUVs from the IRA tax benefits.

Has it been confirmed anywhere US spec doesn’t have 3rd row?