10-27-2021, 01:42 PM | #1 |
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No M package- Deal breaker?
Obviously very subjective, but I am super particular about my cars. I swore I wouldn't get a car without the M package but in this market, it's hard to be picky.
I found what I think is a good deal on an X5 50i. 2019 with 2.5 years left on warranty (sold Feb 2020). Checks all the boxes (carplay, LED, HUD, Live cockpit pro, Comfort seats, 20" wheels, sub 20k miles, etc), except no M package and vented seats (I can deal with that). Before I do it, is my understanding is correct- it's a purely cosmetic package (different bumper, side skirts, steering wheel and painted rear bumper)? Nothing functional? The best deal I can find for a 2019+ with the TTv8 and M package is $7500 more and it has 6k more miles on it. Thanks in advance!
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10-27-2021, 02:38 PM | #3 |
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So the adaptive is what lets you adjust via magnetic shocks (I've had this in several other cars from different manufacturers) and it can instantly get soft/stiff.
How good is the regular suspension? Is it super soft?
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10-27-2021, 03:22 PM | #5 |
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So I think I solved my own problem by saying yolo and going for this one.
https://www.fckerbeckmaserati.com/us...JU2C55KLN49897 I says it has "S2VF Adaptive M Chassis" so I assume that's the adaptive suspension? S2NH M Sport Brake - was there a brake upgrade option?
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I'm a recent "convertee" to both 22"s and the Red M Sport brake calipers which comes with the M Sport package (in Australia)...
To answer your question, no M Sport package would definitely be a deal breaker! |
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10-27-2021, 03:31 PM | #8 |
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I have MSport in both my x3 and my new x6, and yes for me is a must.
Some info on bmw adaptive suspension
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Is "S2VF Adaptive M Chassis" the adaptive suspension or something else?
I think I found a winner.
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Thanks for convincing me to spend another $10k everyone
I'm excited.
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The decoder has an "s" in front of everything it seems like:
Upholstery Leather Merino black S337 M Sports Package S710 M Leather Steering Wheel S715 M Aerodynamics Package S402 Panorama Glass Roof S420 Sun Protection Glazing S423 Floor Mats Velours S441 Smoker Package S456 Comfort Seat With Memory S4A2 Glass Application Crafted Clarity S4FL Travel & Comfort Rail System S4HA Seat Heating, Front And Rear S4HB Heat Comfort Package, Front S4KM Trims Aluminium Mesh Effect Dark S4NB Autom. Climate Control With 4-Zone Ctrl S4T8 Outside Mirror With Auto Dip S4UR Ambient Interior Light S610 Head-Up Display S645 BMW US Radio S655 Satellite Tuner S65A Preparation External CD Drive S688 Harman/Kardon Surround Sound System S6AC Intelligent Emergency Call S6AE Teleservices S6AK Connected Drive Services S6C4 Connected Package Professional S6CP Preparation Apple CarPlay S6NW Telephony With Wireless Charging S6U3 BMW Live Operating Area Professional (is this an upgrade?) S6U8 BMW Gesture Control S6WD WLAN Hotspot S552 Adaptive LED Headlight S5A1 LED Fog Lights S5AC High-Beam Assistant S5AL Active Protection S5AP Decoding Anti-Glare High-Beam Assistant S5AU Driving Assistant Professional S5AV Active Guard S5DN Parking Assistance System Plus S212 Equipment, Brake Syst. Country-Specihc S258 Tyres With Runiat Properties S2NH M Sport Brake S2TB Sport Automatic Gearbox S2VB Tyre Pressure Display S2VF Adaptive M Chassis S302 Alarm System S319 Integrated Universal Remote Control S322 Comfort Access S3DZ Omission Of Additional Lettering, Outer S3MC Indiv.roofrailing,Mirror-Fin.Shadow Line S823 Hot-Climate Version S842 Cold-Climate Version S845 Acoustic Fasten Seat Belt Reminder S853 Language Version, English S8KL Oil Service Interval 15,000 Km/12 Months S8R9 Refrigerant R1234yf S8SL Trailer Coupling Preparation S8SM Car Ident. Number Visible From Outside S8TN Daytime Driv.lights Adjus.via Light Menu S760 High Gloss Shadow Line S775 Headlining Anthracite S1CB CO2 Equipment S1MA M Sports Exhaust System S1TD 20" Light-Al.whl. Star Spoke 740M Em.op. S992 Control Of Number-Plate Attachment S9AA Outer Skin Protection SA090 90 Ah AGM Battery Bold is the stuff I cared about. Only option I would have really liked was ventilated seats
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That's really high in my opinion although the car market is crazy now. I think you can order a brand new for around that price plus you get brand new 2022.
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I built one to this spec and it was 94k iirc. I looked and called all over. The only ones cheaper than this had at least an accident on the carfax or some sketchy dealer with markups or something. Used car market is crazy out there and it’s going to get worse. |
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Only difference between the standard xLine electronic damper and 2VF Adaptive M Sport which included on M Sport packages is the software damping rates. The shocks, struts (air struts for 45e) passive roll bars on all identical across xLine and M Sport sDrive and xDrive 40i models.
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Standard, Adaptive M and Adaptive M Pro uses traditional steel springs and shocks whereas air suspension uses air spring struts.
Two-Axle Air Suspension The optional self-levelling two-axle air suspension maximizes ride comfort. The suspension's air supply is controlled individually for each wheel using an electrically driven compressor with pressure reservoir, enabling it to balance out an unevenly loaded vehicle. Since the air suspension works in tandem with the Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) system, the vehicle load registered by its sensors can be factored into braking calculations. Above 86 mph and in Sport mode, the suspension is automatically lowered by about 0.8 inches; in off-road terrain, it can be raised by up to around 1.6 inches. For loading it can be lowered by around 1.6 inches at the touch of a button. Overall, this means that ride height can be varied by up to approximately 3.2 inches. Adaptive M Suspension (included in M Sport Package) Adaptive M Suspension (2VF) is now included with M Sport Package for all models. This suspension enhances the standard suspension by providing variable suspension and damping characteristics which can be adjusted through the driving experience control switch. Dynamic Handling Package - Adaptive M Suspension Professional The X5 is even more agile to drive with the Adaptive M Suspension Professional, which complements Integral Active Steering with anti-roll stabilization to reduce body roll in bends, enabling both more dynamic and more flatter cornering. The roll stabilization system employs electric swivel motors to enable remarkably swift and precise compensation of body roll under dynamic cornering. This increases agility and directional stability when turning into corners and helps optimize traction when accelerating out. The system has the additional effect of increasing straight-line driving comfort by actively countering the vibrations triggered by bumps on one side of the road.
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