[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

Do you guys have to redo alignment went going from staggered 22/21 summers to 21" 808M winter setup?

Or is my dealer bullshitting me.

I've been switching out square winter and staggered summer sets for years and never had an alignment issue.

[AwesomeM3]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

My winter wheel package arrived yesterday. Another big thank you to Awesome for the recommendation!

Congratulations, glad I could help! Plenty of time before the snow starts!

Originally Posted by -Vanguard-

Do you guys have to redo alignment went going from staggered 22/21 summers to 21" 808M winter setup?

Or is my dealer bullshitting me.

I think your dealer is BSing you. As far as I know, I've never needed an alignment after the winters were installed, and I get them installed by my dealer.

[cmyx6go]

Anyone else switch yet? I put on the winter shoes this morning. I probably could have waited a bit longer but forecasts started showing temps in the mid to low 40s overnight so I thought I'd get it done.

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Anyone else switch yet? I put on the winter shoes this morning. I probably could have waited a bit longer but forecasts started showing temps in the mid to low 40s overnight so I thought I'd get it done.

Ha, you are earlier than me (also in NYC but upstate on weekends). Checking the weather though. Will wait for it to warm up Sunday and Monday before heading out anywhere - lows around 40 upstate NY, but then jumping back up 10 degrees for the week so we should be fine for another week or so.

[iconoclast]

Just a head's up to anyone still in the market... the 22" rears are out of stock in most places. The only way to find them is through certain dealers or at Porsche. I mentioned on here back in the middle of summer that there would be limited supply and I hope those who need took advantage. I suspect the wheel/tire winter combos in smaller sizes will be sold out soon so if you haven't purchased or cannot find the 22" in stock then start exploring options before you do not have any.
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[Gamerguy]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Just a head's up to anyone still in the market... the 22" rears are out of stock in most places. The only way to find them is through certain dealers or at Porsche. I mentioned on here back in the middle of summer that there would be limited supply and I hope those who need took advantage. I suspect the wheel/tire winter combos in smaller sizes will be sold out soon so if you haven't purchased or cannot find the 22" in stock then start exploring options before you do not have any.
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Thanks for the good info. I'm picking up my MBB 5 end of this week or early next week. I absolutely was running into back order at a lot of places. Guess I'll try bmw tire center and see if any local dealerships have them before checking with Porsche…seems to be the 2 rear tires that's out now if your trying to run stock wheels and just swap tires.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

Just a head's up to anyone still in the market... the 22" rears are out of stock in most places. The only way to find them is through certain dealers or at Porsche. I mentioned on here back in the middle of summer that there would be limited supply and I hope those who need took advantage. I suspect the wheel/tire winter combos in smaller sizes will be sold out soon so if you haven't purchased or cannot find the 22" in stock then start exploring options before you do not have any.
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I’m not a happy camper with this new 21” winter tire size combined with supply chain nonsense. I’m seriously considering ordering 2 extra just in case I get a blow out with these stupid small sidewalls. .

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

Anyone else switch yet? I put on the winter shoes this morning. I probably could have waited a bit longer but forecasts started showing temps in the mid to low 40s overnight so I thought I'd get it done.

On tonight - temps dropping next week.

[botis1028]

Originally Posted by Chas8283

On tonight - temps dropping next week.

They look great!

With a lease I don't see the point in spending the extra 3k on a full set of wheels / tires even though I'd prefer the Alpin 5's.

I just ordered the scorpion winters for 1750 for the entire set up.

[Gamerguy]

Originally Posted by botis1028

They look great!

With a lease I don't see the point in spending the extra 3k on a full set of wheels / tires even though I'd prefer the Alpin 5's.

I just ordered the scorpion winters for 1750 for the entire set up.

Where did you find the tires? I'm assuming your talking about the staggered OEM set up and you just got the scorpions for a tire swap?

I'm struggling trying to find a set; that's why I'm asking thanks!

[botis1028]

Originally Posted by Gamerguy

Where did you find the tires? I'm assuming your talking about the staggered OEM set up and you just got the scorpions for a tire swap?

I'm struggling trying to find a set; that's why I'm asking thanks!

Tire rack has them!

[Gamerguy]

Originally Posted by botis1028

Tire rack has them!

Thanks I'll look again…it showed back order so I just figured they were out for the season. I'll just order and see what happens, fortunately it's not that cold yet in the DC area!

[-cj-]

I put on my Scorpions winters (on oem wheels) earlier this week. Definitely sacrifice some high speed performance, but man the traction on wet roads is amazing. Went through some deep puddles at highway (100-110kph) speeds and didn't even get the hydroplaning / resistance on the one side that entered the puddle. Dry performance isn't as great as the MP4S*'s but that's no surprise. Can't wait for snow & ice to properly try them…

[mswaz]

Originally Posted by Chas8283

On tonight - temps dropping next week.

Hows the ride on the Michelin snows so far?

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by mswaz

Hows the ride on the Michelin snows so far?

Really noticed no change except a little resonance. Not very loud so it’s not bothering me and only happens within a few mph of 50. Ride quality seems no different so I am very happy.

[schaeffs888]

Originally Posted by Chas8283

On tonight - temps dropping next week.

That looks awesome!!

You guy's go super early on the change - mid-late November here in the UK!

[schaeffs888]

Originally Posted by mswaz

Hows the ride on the Michelin snows so far?

Assuming you are also on the Alpin 5s - I found ride quality a bit better on them vs the OEM Pirelli Zero Summers that came with the car. That and the amazing grip below 7 degrees Celsius!

[Chas8283]

Originally Posted by schaeffs888

That looks awesome!!

You guy's go super early on the change - mid-late November here in the UK!

Monty Don’s Instagram feed tells me there’s frost in the UK. Better get those winters on! A job for the weekend.

[Alan l.]

With the recent weather change in NY i might have to swap mine sooner than I originally thought!

[AwesomeM3]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

With the recent weather change in NY i might have to swap mine sooner than I originally thought!

I'm waiting...I'm in NJ, similar weather to NY, but it will be in the 60s next week. It's been below 40 in the mornings, but the temps warm up quickly. I usually wait until mid-December; I've never swapped them out in November before.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

With the recent weather change in NY i might have to swap mine sooner than I originally thought!

I got my first freeze chime this morning

[Jaro75]

I used the Scorpion Winters on my OEM wheels last winter. While not the ideal size for snow tires the set up worked great. No issues at all driving in any winter conditions.

Unfortunately at the end of the season I noticed that I must have ran over a piece of metal and sliced one of the rear tires. It was still holding air but wasn't comfortable with using it again so I knew I needed to replace the tire. I searched for weeks for one rear tire (315/30/22) with no luck and finally called my dealer to bite the bullet and buy BMW's winter set up. I mentioned to the parts guy what had happened and that I was aggravated that I needed to buy a whole set of wheels/tires because I couldn't find one rear tire. He asked which tire it was and said he could get it for me in a couple days. I figured he "thought" he could get it and would strike out when he actually tried to place the order but I spoke with him yesterday and he said the tire came in and he had it waiting for me to go pick it up! I'm pretty psyched that I avoided spending the $4k+ on the winter set up but also a little shocked that the price of one Scorpion Winter went up to $605!

Oh well, going to grab it today and should be all set for the winter now.