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      02-17-2021, 05:28 AM   #67
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interesting...on the trim is a label "Heizungsbedienteil ohne Funktion" - "climate Control buttons without function"..:
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      02-17-2021, 05:38 AM   #68
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If the current gen of interior design across models is a valid reference point, then probably this will be the interior design for all next gen cars. Pretty much the exact same interior of the iX can be found in the i4, so I don't see why other non-M models would have a different one. From a supply chain, cost, and technology/development perspective, standardisation makes a lot of sense.

Having said that, if this is the direction BMW is following, it'll be very hard for me to choose BMW over Audi/Merc again. I personally like the interior of the eTron GT (screens + Phy controls) quite a lot more than what we're seeing coming from BMW.
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      02-17-2021, 06:20 AM   #69
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Here's to hoping this is nothing more than some engineering/testing mules.
No it's not engineer test vehicle but the industry trend is going all digital screens due cost cutting and easy to manufacture, this design will be on BMW upcoming EV. Soon no more signals and wiper stalks and you getting a yoke for steering wheel.
Analog and mechanical parts are cost more and difficult to produce if the sensors are bad it's much cheaper to replace.
Unfortunately you are probably right, I guess wishful thinking is all we have left for the direction things are going.
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      02-17-2021, 07:11 AM   #70
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It seems it was not that long ago that BMW was the leader, the brand others tried to copy now it's like BMW has become lazy and copies other manufacturers.
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      02-17-2021, 08:13 AM   #71
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It seems it was not that long ago that BMW was the leader, the brand others tried to copy now it's like BMW has become lazy and copies other manufacturers.
The entire car industry copies each other because every manufacturer follows trends. Why people are even surprised is surprising. Once BMW completely ditched analogue gauges, this was bound to happen. At least they're keeping the same layout where it's a screen for gauges and screen iDrive and didn't go "Tesla-Pad" in the center stack.
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      02-17-2021, 08:26 AM   #72
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Well! Let's just go back here, shall we?

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      02-17-2021, 08:34 AM   #73
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I just hope BMW doesn't get carried away with touch interface. I think they have the perfect balance of touch and "mechanical" interface in the G05. Buddy drove a Volvo that had the tesla like screen and it was a PIA to change the temp in the car. Especially since the volvo CPU would lag, freeze, glitch on occasion so doing something simple like turning up the heat and turning on seat heating would take longer. Also while driving, it would be more distracting.
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      02-17-2021, 08:36 AM   #74
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They are doing this just so in a few years they can have an X6 Homage CS with analog gauges , regular automatic, and halogen headlights that they will charge a premium for .
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      02-17-2021, 08:36 AM   #75
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I just hope BMW doesn't get carried away with touch interface. I think they have the perfect balance of touch and "mechanical" interface in the G05. Buddy drove a Volvo that had the tesla like screen and it was a PIA to change the temp in the car. Especially since the volvo CPU would lag, freeze, glitch on occasion so doing something simple like turning up the heat and turning on seat heating would take longer. Also while driving, it would be more distracting.
If the iX is any sign as for the future of BMW's infotainment, the HVAC controls will also be disappearing and be implemented into the screen. The 2er Active Tourer was also spied lacking any physical HVAC controls.
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If the iX is any sign as for the future of BMW's infotainment, the HVAC controls will also be disappearing and be implemented into the screen. The 2er Active Tourer was also spied lacking any physical HVAC controls.
Bad move, IMO.
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As someone who has had 10+ service visits and am now going through a manufacturer process due to a defective/lemon unit where the driver's dash cluster keeps cutting out without warning, this is a really iffy move imo. I get it - not every car has issues, but enough have shown problems with the dash cluster control communications setup that this should really be thought through again and suppliers thoroughly tested before going mass market. Just my 0.02.
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As someone who has had 10+ service visits and am now going through a manufacturer process due to a defective/lemon unit where the driver's dash cluster keeps cutting out without warning, this is a really iffy move imo. I get it - not every car has issues, but enough have shown problems with the dash cluster control communications setup that this should really be thought through again and suppliers thoroughly tested before going mass market. Just my 0.02.
I would agree with this, I have a different manufacturers product where my screen is having issues. Because of it I have lost most of the functionality (navigation, music, heated seats/wheel, etc, etc) and it is incredibly distracting with the screens flickering every 3 seconds.
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      02-17-2021, 10:35 AM   #79
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You can see the screens has adapted to the latest X7 prototypes as well.

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I will seriously never buy another BMW if they do with this design choice.

Mercedes or Porsche will 100% dominate.....

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About that Porsche....
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It's not surprising that most manufactures are moving towards Tesla-ish interiors. Funny I think Telsa's interiors are their weak points of their car design. The new S and X are nicer, but not a fan of the yoke steering wheel. That said, I don't mind the i4 interior photos posted above. I wish there were a few more buttons, especially the programable numbered keys - I'm a huge fan of those.
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Screens look fine. it still has a shifter. let's not freak out over silly things.

The new S interior is better in person
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Indeed, footsteps

Merc is already moving away from the continuous screen...

New S class interior
Touch screens are the worst trend in automotive lol, I'd love a mix of physical buttons and beautiful LCD displays, not pure touch, if I wanted to drive an iPad, I would, but I want my eyes on the road...
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Would the existing main dash UI update for previous gen models when this is released ?
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About that Porsche....
Looks great. Its integrated well into the dash. The BMW literally slapped 2 screens side by side on top of the dash like MB did with their current/last generation. There's good reason MB is getting away from that.
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Anyone know if this new dash thing is coming to the G80/82/87? I saw that the 3-series is doomed. Will they make M cars also look like a luxury lounge?
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For the first time ever..... I’m hating the future. It’s all plagues and screens.
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I think for me it depends on what the screens can do and how they look. The trend seems to be to make look them look like an oversized iPad is being propped up, rather than integrated, and I think that just ends up making it look cheap imho.It looks like an afterthought than central to the car
Now if we could customise (within reason) the screens and what they do/display, then I could be a fan. There are some things I never use, whereas somethings could be better placed - I can't see the fog lights in my seating position, nor tell which is front or back for example.
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