[iTomH]

I did the same thing a couple of months before my 45e was delivered. It was very helpful but much of it basically incomprehensible until you actually have the car. Bear in mind that the generic manual will discuss features your car may not have.

My dealer offered me as much time as I needed with a "genius" to get familiar with the controls, many of which were very different from any car I've ever owned. Allow a couple of hours and actually use the controls, rather than simply watching him show you. I literally was unable to back the car out of the parking space before the training session.

Originally Posted by Guy Fleegman

Another suggestion: Deactivate gesture control and voice control until you have a feel for how everything works. It can be distracting and confusing when the radio comes on because you moved your hand the wrong way. Once you know how to do everything you can activate the features you want according to your preferences.

Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that there's no replacement for "hands on" training. I loaded my 50e with almost all of the options so there's a bunch of things to learn. This forum has been very helpful and I still have a few months of waiting so I figured doing some reading and staying up with the forum would help.

[sigmabody]

On a related note, I don't know that there's much value in Adaptive anyway (irrespective of the fact that it only works with the built-in Nav, which most people presumably won't use), at least in the US. There aren't any methods to set zones where you would want to preserve power for EV operation (aside from the politically motivated and non-configurable eZone areas, which are utterly stupid), and you need to enable battery hold anyway if you want enough power to precondition (for example). In terms of UX, there are like 5+ obvious "duh" fixes or enhancements which BMW could do to make the battery control software far more functional, rather than whatever they were trying to do with Adaptive.

[BMPHIL]

I get better mpg using adaptive than comfort about 3mpg (UK).

[bbari]

Originally Posted by BMPHIL

I get better mpg using adaptive than comfort about 3mpg (UK).

Any idea what do you get when using ICE only?

[BMPHIL]

Originally Posted by bbari

Any idea what do you get when using ICE only?

No idea, I have a 40i

[Don Cannelloni]

I personally haven't seen a massive difference using Adaptive mode and having a destination in the Sat Nav. If I am in the mood to play the "range game" I generally find that a combination of Hybrid and Hybrid Eco Pro works quite well for everything but very short journeys. The Hybrid for downhill stretches where you can gain some regen and Eco Pro the rest of the time.
Have to give a shout out to Sport mode as well for those times when you want to use that very cool petrol engine (which will be even better in the 50e)

[jad03060]

As I see it, the advantage of Adaptive mode is the ability to look ahead, and be in the better mode of operation versus reacting to a change in load.

[Guy Fleegman]

Originally Posted by bbari

Any idea what do you get when using ICE only?

There really is no such thing as "ICE only" on the 45e. If you mean driving when the battery charge indicator displays "---" I get around 28mpg @ 70-80 mph speeds on the highway, depending on terrain. Other owners have reported similar results on this forum.

[bbari]

Originally Posted by Guy Fleegman

There really is no such thing as "ICE only" on the 45e. If you mean driving when the battery charge indicator displays "---" I get around 28mpg @ 70-80 mph speeds on the highway, depending on terrain. Other owners have reported similar results on this forum.

Thank you.
Yes, I meant when the battery is 0% and the vehicle is using the combustion engine.

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by bbari

Thank you.
Yes, I meant when the battery is 0% and the vehicle is using the combustion engine.

The issue is that even when the indicated EV miles are zero...you'll still get some EV boost during acceleration, and if there's enough deceleration or downhill, the indicated range will potentially increase. IOW, potentially only if the battery is severely cold-soaked, and then, only for maybe a mile or two, you'll always have some EV power to help you along.

[bbari]

Originally Posted by jad03060

The issue is that even when the indicated EV miles are zero...you'll still get some EV boost during acceleration, and if there's enough deceleration or downhill, the indicated range will potentially increase. IOW, potentially only if the battery is severely cold-soaked, and then, only for maybe a mile or two, you'll always have some EV power to help you along.

That's not really an issue .
I was just trying to work out how thirsty the petrol engine is.

[jad03060]

The point is, you'll never be able to only be using the ICE...it will always have some augmentation with the EV part of the hybrid system.

In a 2000-mile trip in the summer with temperatures around 90F, little chance to recharge, I got about 28-mpg. I know you'll probably have to convert units, but for a nearly 3-ton vehicle, running 70-80 mph down the roadway (limited access, so few stops), I was pretty impressed.

[bbari]

Originally Posted by jad03060

The point is, you'll never be able to only be using the ICE...it will always have some augmentation with the EV part of the hybrid system.

In a 2000-mile trip in the summer with temperatures around 90F, little chance to recharge, I got about 28-mpg. I know you'll probably have to convert units, but for a nearly 3-ton vehicle, running 70-80 mph down the roadway (limited access, so few stops), I was pretty impressed.

That's impressive alrite. That's exactly what i was looking for. Fuel economy in a hybrid mode which you will get if you start with a 0 charge.
What sort of figure would it be in you driving around city in a traffic doing 30mph?

[jad03060]

Stop and go, without being able to run in full EV mode, will be poor. The EPA city mileage for the 45e is 16-mpg. A steady 30-mph even with just the ICE primarily providing propulsion with any vehicle should be quite efficient. It's the stopping and starting that gets messy, the extra 800# of battery doesn't help, but regeneration recoups some of it. Most of my trips are local, starting and stopping on surface streets with a max of 40-mph and are done almost entirely on the battery. I last filled the tank in October 2022, and it's still at about 1/2.

[vtbobm]

How's it going with the new ride? I can't wait, picking mine up tomorrow (4/29/23).

Anyone know if the Weathertech floor mats for the 2024/23 X5 will fit the '24 50e?

[mopaman]

Originally Posted by jad03060

The point is, you'll never be able to only be using the ICE...it will always have some augmentation with the EV part of the hybrid system.

In a 2000-mile trip in the summer with temperatures around 90F, little chance to recharge, I got about 28-mpg. I know you'll probably have to convert units, but for a nearly 3-ton vehicle, running 70-80 mph down the roadway (limited access, so few stops), I was pretty impressed.

I get about the same about 28 mpg starting off with a full battery on a 6 hr drive and driving conservatively. But if starting from zero battery and going up to or above 85 mph. It takes a big hit. As low as 20-22 mpg.

[jad03060]

FWIW, the drag goes up in a non-linear fashion...disregarding other factors, say you're going 60mph. The drag would be a factor of 60^2, or 3600. Going 85, 85^2 or 7225, or over twice as high as at 60. On a 2200 mile trip with little chance to recharge, I averaged about 28mpg running with the cruise often set about 73. I'm sure it would go down if I drove faster. Others here have indicated similar results, and at slower speeds, some have seen over 30mpg.

[Bhuvi]

Originally Posted by fan25

You can either press Hybrid twice or press it once and choose in iDrive.

That’s weird it shouldn’t be. Unless you immediately speeded up to 110kmh and maintained above that speed for your whole trip. Or, check if you accidentally hit the battery control button below camera button. That will help you maintain battery at certain level.

45e don’t have it. Not sure 50e will have it but I highly doubt it, as it’s still a PHEV not a EV.

You can see it on the right side of your cluster panel. While in hybrid mode, there’s a blue portion, which indicate you are driving in EV. Whenever it’s gone and turned grey, you are driving in ICE.
You can also choose Sport Individual and configure everything to comfort, which make it the same as hybrid but you get m sport dial with traditional rpm dial. That you can see easily when the rpm is zero (ev) and when it’s is not (ice).

I can confirm the eco pro button is not there. There’s sport , electric and hybrid. Those are your 3 options. I will try double tapping the hybrid and see what it does. Does double tapping the electric and sport also do something. Does double tapping these buttons do something in non electric/hybrid models ?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by jad03060

The issue is that even when the indicated EV miles are zero...you'll still get some EV boost during acceleration, and if there's enough deceleration or downhill, the indicated range will potentially increase. IOW, potentially only if the battery is severely cold-soaked, and then, only for maybe a mile or two, you'll always have some EV power to help you along.

to clarify, you mean eAssist. eBoost occurs with higher power demands (top end of the power meter) which requires the HV battery to have a bit more energy at the ready. that’s not possible when reading ZERO or - - - on the cluster

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by E91toG05

Adaptive is at its most useful/smart when using the BMw navigation system. However, if you mostly use CarPlay or Android Auto for nav, the adaptive predictive abilities will not be utilized.

this usefulness you’re referring to can also be utilized in Hybrid and Hybrid Eco Pro modes when using the BMW Navi. for some reason, many thought it only worked on Adaptive. that’s not true

[jkramerXXX7]

Originally Posted by vtbobm

How's it going with the new ride? I can't wait, picking mine up tomorrow (4/29/23).

Anyone know if the Weathertech floor mats for the 2024/23 X5 will fit the '24 50e?

Not sure about the floor mats but the Weathertech Cargo mat for the 45e fits perfectly in my 50e. I would imagine the floor mats fit similarly.

[velopod]

Originally Posted by jkramerXXX7

Not sure about the floor mats but the Weathertech Cargo mat for the 45e fits perfectly in my 50e. I would imagine the floor mats fit similarly.

Highly recommend checking out Tuxmats instead. Much nice than the Weathertechs in my opinion (and slightly cheaper).