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      08-27-2005, 06:09 PM   #1
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E90 wins again! vs. Lexus IS350, G35, Acura TL, Cadillac CTS, Audi 3.2 (scans inside)

I just got the latest issue of Car and Driver, and inside they had what they called "Just try to beat the 3-series tests". In the comparison they compared the (in order from last place to first place) Sabb 9-3 Aero, Volvo S-60R, Cadillac CTS, Audi 3.2 Quattro, Acura TL, Infiniti G35, Lexus IS350, and with first place BMW 330i ! Even with 300 hp the lexus was no mach for the bimmer. I was verry inpressed with how it did in the comparison, but I wasn't suprised at all.

P.S. as for my 325i i just called the dealer and they told me that my car should be ready to be picked up on mon!!!!! I can't beleave how fast it got here, I only ordered it July 25th!!!

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      08-27-2005, 06:33 PM   #2
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Yeah my dad told me he just got his in the mail (I got him a subscription for Father's Day )
I'll have to have him bring it when he comes over tomorrow.
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      08-27-2005, 07:27 PM   #4
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car and driver always use the 3 series as a benchmark for sports sedans, so obviously it is going to win the tests no problem.

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      08-27-2005, 07:37 PM   #5
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They hated the sabb," it is built in Trollhattan sweden, by real trolls"(just thought that that was funny) it had pleanty of thrust once the turbo got spinning, "humpy-lumpy"power delivery, brakes sucked "equivelent to a garbage truck" sloppy shifter, pplenty of body roll and and structure flex.

The S-60 "R is for risky" "risky for being 47K" has an on off swich for a throttle, lifeless stering,priced for a pentagon spreed sheet. Beautyfull leather interior.

Caddy CTS- great improvment in handling, boring exaust note, basicly a generation behind its compitation.

Audi A4- they continusly kept bitching about no manual serene expressway cruser, too much body roll, same Audi interior, pretty much the same as the old one, Audi used to be one of the class
leaders.

TL- high reving v6, great back seat, jittery ride, steering gets squirmy when you floor it, used to be an accord in a suit .

G35- makes fast car noises, attacks corners, aging gracefully downn the rankings.

IS350, 300 ponies , again no stick , no way to unplug stability controll , back seat well.....sucks, most enntertaning lexus yet, beautyful interior.

330i- did not have a chance to complain about i-drive ( didn't have it in the teat car) Its a BMW (what badge whores), cold interiod design,??????, fizzing electronics (all sorts of lights started coming up wile they were testing.)abs, airbag malfunction, and a few others. Great handling. They just overall loved the car.
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C&D is ridiculous with their love for the 3-series. I think once or twice the perennial winners didn't get first and they themselves admitted to being shocked that a car outdid a BMW in their opinions.



but I can't ever remember them not scoring a 3-series at the very top, hehehehe
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why do you think it's rediculus??

you bought a 3 series also, so I'd imagine that you agreed with them that the BMW was the best.

it really says something about the product, when the most expensive option on the market outsells the cheaper options.
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why do you think it's rediculus??

you bought a 3 series also, so I'd imagine that you agreed with them that the BMW was the best.

it really says something about the product, when the most expensive option on the market outsells the cheaper options.

You make it sound like I'm degrading them by saying that! Why would I buy a 330i and be on these forums if I disagreed with C&D's opinions about the 3? It is ridiculous, yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a BAD thing

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      08-28-2005, 09:26 AM   #9
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Threads like this bring a tear to my eye, because they make me so proud of my little baby! LOL
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I'm just as proud of my 'baby' as is the next 330i owner, but:

Lexus IS350 zero to 60 in 5.1 ??? Man, I know 300 ponies is a lot but, Jee-Heezus, that is pretty quick. How in God's name did they manage that with an auto no less?

Seems sad to say that even if BMW comes out with a 335 model, it is going to have to have one significant jump in performance over the 330 to keep up with that thing!
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I'm just as proud of my 'baby' as is the next 330i owner, but:

Lexus IS350 zero to 60 in 5.1 ??? Man, I know 300 ponies is a lot but, Jee-Heezus, that is pretty quick. How in God's name did they manage that with an auto no less?

Seems sad to say that even if BMW comes out with a 335 model, it is going to have to have one significant jump in performance over the 330 to keep up with that thing!
Good grief that's fast. So what did they clock the 330 at 0-60?
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Good grief that's fast. So what did they clock the 330 at 0-60?
They clocked the 330 at 6.0 flat, zero to 60 mph. It was also ranked the best handling car.

Here are the complete set of results:
8th place Saab 9-3 Aero Manual
7th place Volvo S60R AWD Manual
6th place Cadillac CTS Manual
5th place Audi A4 3.2 Quattro Auto
4th place Acura TL Manual
3rd place Infiniti G35 Manual
2nd Place Lexus IS350 Auto
1st Place BMW 330i Sport Manual no active steering

>>>> Acura Audi BMW Cadillac Infiniti Lexus Saab Volvo
0-60: 5.9 7.5 6.0 6.9 5.9 5.1 6.4 6.4
1/4 mile: 14.6 15.7 14.8 15.2 14.6 13.7 15.1 14.6
@MPH: 97 91 97 93 98 104 97 98
Skidpad: .91 .83 .89 .83 .85 .85 .81 .85

Lane change:62.5 60.0 61.7 62.1 60.0 58.7 60.6 61.8

Ride: 7 6 9 8 8 7 5 5
Handling: 7 7 10 8 9 9 5 6
Steering: 4 4 4 3 4 4 3 3

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wow, 0-60 in 5.1, and 13.7 @ 104 in the 1/4 mile.... thats pretty impressive... im suprised it only got a 7 in the ride comfort tho, that's usually one of the better aspects of lexus cars.
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wow, 0-60 in 5.1, and 13.7 @ 104 in the 1/4 mile.... thats pretty impressive... im suprised it only got a 7 in the ride comfort tho, that's usually one of the better aspects of lexus cars.
True.
Obviously, they're going straight for the jugular with this car.

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5.1 and 13.7!?

CMON BMW, letting the Japs up you!?
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5.1 and 13.7!?

CMON BMW, letting the Japs up you!?
Edmunds got 0-60 in 6.1 seconds with the IS350.
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Any chance of some scans? Thanks
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      08-28-2005, 08:19 PM   #18
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Hey Nikki, What's up with the pic of the Acura in you sig? I like the part about being a brighter star but change the pic, you own a BMW now. Yeah I know.
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Ok this may be a dumb question... but why did they not include the c class into this test? just wondering...
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Ok this may be a dumb question... but why did they not include the c class into this test? just wondering...
because thy couldn't get a hold of one with the companys new v6, but if they could of, im wiling to bet that it would have placed 3rd.Because its no BMW, and its power is nowhere near what the is350 can do.
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No way.........every magazine I've read....has the 3 series always finishing #1.

I must have done the right thing by buying a 330i.

Yeah...
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is350 0-60 in 5.1? i call
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