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      07-14-2020, 01:34 PM   #67
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To be honest, I wouldnt put it in charge battery as it will charge also when adding a bit of ICE power on the flat bits. Only a continuous descent could be done in save battery mode.

In any case, light to moderate braking is the generator, only harder braking are the discs, so you will be charging quite a bit on a downhill stretch in any operating mode, and in the uphill stretches, the battery will assist in case needed so no need for sport mode per se.
Good information. I'd need to experiment. Take the scenario where the battery was almost fully depleted at the summit and I began a 31 mile steep stretch down the mountain pulling a trailer. If the 45e were just in hybrid mode and I were lightly to moderately braking the whole way down the mountain pass for 1/2 hour, I wonder how much charge I'd put on the battery?
If you put in sport you don't have to brake your self. In sport it regenerates more so more "engine braking on the dynamo". Maybe this will be enough to keep steady speed with your trailer pushing you down.

I think that 32 miles should give you a reasonable charge 30-40% ?

And I really doubt if will empty the battery going up.
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      07-15-2020, 01:24 AM   #68
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I pull a 5000lbs caravan with my 45e.
I drive the combination always in SPORT INDIVIDUAL mode (suspension and steering in comfort) so the battery is for back up and other electric stuff like AC.
Half an hour steep hills like 10% with 50mph bring you up to an altitude of 13.000ft that is quite high for such a short ride. I did not do that.
I did some hills like 7% a few minutes up and than down again. With a speed of 60mph and about 300hp in lower gears it seems that there is no electric consumption on the wheels. I never had to use full power in the right gear.
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      07-16-2020, 05:21 PM   #69
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Tows great. Anyone who says different has never done it.
How big is that Airstream? Weight and length? Looking to get one to tow with the X5.
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      07-19-2020, 02:01 PM   #70
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I pull a 5000lbs caravan with my 45e.
Did you order the factory hitch, bringing the towing capacity up to 7200 lbs?

Is the factory hitch a ball? Or is it a 2" receiver? I want a 2" receiver so I can plug in my own hitch ball with the weight distribution and anti-sway bars.

Can I factory order a 2" receiver?
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      07-19-2020, 02:17 PM   #71
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I pull a 5000lbs caravan with my 45e.
Did you order the factory hitch, bringing the towing capacity up to 7200 lbs?

Is the factory hitch a ball? Or is it a 2" receiver? I want a 2" receiver so I can plug in my own hitch ball with the weight distribution and anti-sway bars.

Can I factory order a 2" receiver?
You are in Canada so your factory hitch is a 2" receiver and loss of foot-swing hatch opening functionality. @Herr is in Europe so his factory hitch is a ball not a receiver, but he gets to swing his foot to open the hatch.
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      07-22-2020, 07:13 PM   #72
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Another towing-related question... The 45e has a 24 kWh battery. My travel trailer's lead acid battery has a total capacity of maybe 1kWh. So if I'm in a campsite, the X5 is parked and turned off, and my trailer is plugged into the 45e at the hitch, will the 45e provide 12VDC to my trailer? It's important that it can provide the 12VDC supply without the vehicle being turned on.

If it can, that would mean I would never have to bring my Yamaha generator camping anymore. The 45e would provide an abundance of power to my trailer. And I could recharge the 45e's battery by running the engine and going for a drive. It would be perfect.

Also, is the 12V cigaratte lighter connector in the console powered when the vehicle is off?

A related question... Does the 45e have an option for a 120VAC outlet? If so, what amperage?
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      07-23-2020, 08:24 AM   #73
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As far as I know the high voltage 24kWh battery is not directly connected to the 12V battery.
So connecting to the 12V hitch connection will only drain the normal 12V battery (but probably the car will shut of the hitch connection). Same with a directly connected continuous running dashcam, this will drain your 12V battery an you will get messages like “check control, energy management. Start engine, more energy consumption during shut down.......”

There is no 120VAC outlet
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As far as I know the high voltage 24kWh battery is not directly connected to the 12V battery.
So connecting to the 12V hitch connection will only drain the normal 12V battery (but probably the car will shut of the hitch connection). Same with a directly connected continuous running dashcam, this will drain your 12V battery an you will get messages like "check control, energy management. Start engine, more energy consumption during shut down......."

There is no 120VAC outlet
Even worse. If you happen to drain the 12v battery to a too low power level you won't be able to start the car and drive off even with a fully charged HV battery.
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Even worse. If you happen to drain the 12v battery to a too low power level you won't be able to start the car and drive off even with a fully charged HV battery.
So disappointing. Enough power to run my trailer for weeks and I have no access to it? Come on engineers, you can do better than that.
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      07-31-2020, 04:34 PM   #76
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I do not recommend towing a boat this big with your X5. I only had to move it a few hundred yards from the ramp to the mechanic shop, and even that far was a harrowing experience.
I just bought a boat precisely this big and heavy (a Grady White Freedom 275) and you've definitively answered my question about whether I need to buy a different tow vehicle.
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Here is the caravan that we tow with the X5 - a 26 foot Bailey Unicorn twin axle. Tows very well behind the X5. Since we have had a fair few Land Rover Discovery models prior to the X5, which had much more weight upfront to give really good stable towing, the X5 is definitely on a par with those. More grunt from the diesel engine helps with acceleration and also the mpg is better whilst towing (better areodynamics, lower overall weight of the combined unit) - a good win-win situation for us.

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Note that this pic is from late last year, when I had the caravan serviced, hence all the others in the background! What with COVID-19 shutting down all the camp sites, not had any time away with it this year yet to get better pics! And we have had unbelievably good weather these last 3 months which is all the more grating but hoping that at some point we'll get away for a break in the caravan.

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Can anyone on this thread help me out with a trailer brake controller issue for the G05. In NA this is mandatory for a travel trailer (caravan). I found another thread showing a connnector under the dash, but not resolved. Thanks
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Can anyone on this thread help me out with a trailer brake controller issue for the G05. In NA this is mandatory for a travel trailer (caravan). I found another thread showing a connnector under the dash, but not resolved. Thanks
I recommend the Curt Echo bluetooth brake controller. Hook it up to the 7 pin, pair, connect the trailer.

I have over 1,500 miles towing with this. Takes a little to dial in, but every brake controller has its quirks. I use an old cell phone to pair so I can use my current phone for everything else.

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Anybody towing with X5MC yet?
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Anybody towing with X5MC yet?
Might want to post your question in the X5/6M subforum - https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=705
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I just bought a boat precisely this big and heavy (a Grady White Freedom 275) and you've definitively answered my question about whether I need to buy a different tow vehicle.
It actually doesn't look too disproportionate; it's a shame it can't handle the trailer weight and tongue weight.

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I'll add my picture too but from an F85.

From my post about towing. I wonder if the new generation has the same limitations.

https://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1745256
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To anyone towing a travel trailer in the USA. Did you / should you use a weight distribution hitch for a travel trailer that weighs in at about 6500lb? I have the air suspension on a G05 M50i with the factory installed trailer hitch.
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Caravan Fridge - anderson plug & dual batteries

Hi everyone. Just wondering if those with vans can tell me how they run their fridge while hooked up to their G05 x5 when car isn't running. Up until now I've always had dedicated battery available with a dual battery setup.
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Here's my G05 pulling my Waverunners. More often than not I pull them with my truck ('19 RAM 1500 Limited), but sometimes the G05 is easier. Brought them home from my storage space today to winterize them for the season. A sad day indeed.
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In which European countries you can tow 130 km/h?
In France max 130km/h, Belgium max 120km/h. Both maximum combination weight 3500kg, this is a bit of a problem with the 45e
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In which European countries you can tow 130 km/h?
In France max 130km/h, Belgium max 120km/h. Both maximum combination weight 3500kg, this is a bit of a problem with the 45e

In Norway only 80km/h on trailers with brakes, if no brakes like jetski etc only 60km/h.
During 2021 some trailers like caravans will be allowed 100km/h if they have annual checks, suspension and tires for speed...

tongue weight is recommended to 75kg, but X5 can have 140kg which is high in Norway.
My previous Tesla X100d could only have 90kg.
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Towed my new Airstream 600 miles. It's about 3800lbs dry and the X5 did great. I'm using a Blue Ox WD hitch to level out the load.
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