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They're either a dealer that got burned or they have too many people coming in for test drives. Friend of mine works at Lamborghini and many people with no real means or ability or desire to buy want to test drive. They offer him cash so they can post photos on "the gram" and he respectfully declines. It is insane that people would do this let alone pay to do it as well.
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Depends on your relationship. My dealer won’t hand out M car keys to most people never mind as a loan car when their car is in for service. But I always get my pick because myself and the family are long standing customers.
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I get all of that but you can walk into Porsche dealer and pretty much test drive any car except the super rare ones.... GT2 etc.... I am sure I can test the super rare one if I was dead serious on buying one..
Before buying my Mclaren 570s, I test drove a brand new Huracan, 570s and and a used Ferrari they had.... I did drive in with my 911 though.
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Not everyone can and not every dealer will even if they can. The dealers typically have a vetting process and profile prospects. Especially if you're a walk-in and request a GT2 and haven't spoken with anyone and it isn't readily available. Making an appointment establishing rapport then requesting is completely different.
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Exactly; of course it also varies from person to person, prospect to prospect. If I was a sales person I wouldn't go for a joyride with every goober who comes in of the street claiming they want to buy a car. If the Sales Manager wants to do it go for it but something tells me there are far more people who want to test drive cars rather than buy. Especially in this day and age where every doofus thinks they're a car reviewer or "lives for the gram" or anything in-between.
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Hey Iconoclast - so how'd this work out for you? Loving the M50i or trading it in? Also, what suspension setup did you get?
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My next car will be X5M or X6M. I really want to buy a new GT4 but it looks like it is almost impossible to get it new. Love that car... one day
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Nice! I'm thinking of going the same route and was wondering about the "integral active steering" in the DHP ... overall 50i seems like it has plenty of HP & handling for an SUV and I like the idea of rear steering ...
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I have it and I enjoy it. It feels like the Diet Coke derivative of the X5M. For what we use it for it does plenty and at no point do I ever say "it needs more power" however a side me still says go for the X5M/C if and when the opportunity presents itself but I am not actively seeking the purchase of one and do not need to.
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Coming from a 40i, planning to switch to an M50i with DHP. I want the cushy ride of the non-M car but with power relatively close to the M. Since this is my family cruiser, I don't need laser sharp handling of the M, so the M50i is more than enough for me. I do plan on getting into a G80 M3 for my daily non-family driving.
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If I wanted an M car, I'd buy an M car — likely an M2 or M3 competition (or really, a 911). I wanted a big, luxurious SUV that's reasonably fun to drive, to daily on public streets.
I've never enjoyed the ride of the X5M — too compromised/harsh for an expensive daily driven family SUV. And I don't see the point in tracking it. So... what is its purpose aside from flexing??
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^^ Its for people that have families/kids that needs the space but also want similar power and driving dynamics to a M car. Not everyone has space or need for multiple cars either so as an all in one package nothing really beats the X5M in this category/price point . Then there is also the way it looks too... An M50i is also an excellent choice but that will drive like a fast X5. It isn't going to drive like a very fast M car.
That being said its not perfect. If BMW would stop cost cutting and just add a good air suspension on the X5M like what every other super suv has it would pretty much make it perfect to me.
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* has 73 or ~100 more horsepower, it's got the same torque from what appears to be the same engine, albeit w/ possibly additional coolers * has the same suspension as M50i w/dhp (M sport pro) * has the same differential (m sport) * has additional bracing * has 6 piston fronts vs 4 piston fronts It's been months since test drives of each, but they didn't really feel that different (I wasn't driving them at the limit and probably never would) ... if I'm missing something I'd love to know! That said, sure 70 or 100 hp ain't nothing, but on top of 500+ it might be that for me ... I'm cross shopping them all over again and, given I like the IAS, I'm thinking the 50i might be the way to go ... though maybe the 2022 models will add something new (ynguldyn mentions "F95/F96/G05/G06: Shadowline headlights in April.")
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I can't say for sure without driven a M50 with DHP (i had one on order originally) but its possible that the M50i in Sport mode would feel similar to the X5M in comfort. Once the X5M is set to Sport or Sport+ its a different animal and really only usable on the smoothest of roads. Also i think you will need the DHP on the M50 to get the torque vectoring rear diff. Is that stated anywhere that its the same as the M? My F80 M3 was my first M car and one thing i've learned after owning it for 2 years and listening to all the arguments online about how a M340i is just as good or what not is that with M cars its really about the sum of all its parts that gives you that "M car feel". My brother in law had a 340i that I got to drive often and jumping into and out of that between my M3 was a big difference just pulling out of the driveway. Every thing little thing from the M seats, steering wheel, shifter, taught suspension, sound just makes it feel more special which also applies to the X5M. Make no mistake I am in no way putting down the M50i. I tell my friends all the time that its the better bang for the buck and its the right car for most people. I originally had a 95K M50i on order before going with the X5M. Going full M is for that special kind of person that wants that 10/10ths of what a M suv/sav can offer. I explained why i went with the full M in my build thread and it came down to if I was going to modify the M50 with aftermarket parts like i usually do I might as well start off with the M since it basically wipes the price difference away. That was the plan at least..... until i decided to mod the X5M as well lol Alan
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