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      02-19-2019, 07:52 AM   #23
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Can someone confirm if there are there any modification for extra cooling for the oil and transmission fluid when you get the factory hitch?

A second question; does the backup camera show a good view of the trailer hitch ball?

Thanks,
Cannot confirm additional cooling. But can confirm there is a hitch ball view that you can toggle on, with a line overlay that shows how the steering wheel’s input will position the ball as you reverse.

View is top down and you can easily line the ball up with the hitch. I’ve done this a few times. Works very well - nailed the position both times and lowered the trailer straight on without repositioning.


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      02-19-2019, 09:18 AM   #24
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... than after delivery, bmw can replace oem hitch with stealthhitch option.
I'm afraid that change will be prohibitively expensive.

On top of getting the stealth hitch with an OEM wiring harness being in the 700-800$USD ballpark, the main point of getting a stealth hitch (and thus why they are more expensive than a normal one) is to NOT have the visible bumper cutout in the back of the vehicle. If yours comes with the OEM hitch, you would need to replace the cutout version of the bumper with a regular one to maintain the stealthiness.
If you don't buy a new bumper, given that they are not designed with the visible bumper cutout in mind, it may look awkward. If you don't care about that, then ignore this comment.

Plus, it may not be a given that it is easy to retrofit the kick to open sensor if you replace their hitch as this will possibly require more hardware, like the sensor itself, and likely programming to enable the feature. If they are willing to do this, it is going to be costly.

If the kick to open is that important to you, you'd be better off canceling your order and ordering another one or try to negotiate for them to retrofit the sensor to the side of the OEM hitch and do the required programming.

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      02-19-2019, 09:25 PM   #25
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Too late lol. Order is placed and my sales rep didn’t warn me. So aftermarket company can figure this out and bmw can’t?? Hmm... well.. than after delivery, bmw can replace oem hitch with stealthhitch option.

Keep it. Too much PITA to have to attached aftermarket and only factory hitch has towing capacity of 7200lbs. And I don't really use kick to open feature anyways.
From what they say here the Stealth Hitch has a 7800lb capacity.

https://stealthhitches.com/products/...5-2019-present

"The vehicle capacities with the BMW X5 tow hitch are:

7,800 pounds - gross trailer weight (GTW)
600 pounds - tongue weight (TW)

Stealth Hitches are designed to exceed vehicle capacities by a minimum of 50%. We list the vehicle capacities, not hitch capacities, to give our customers more meaningful data. Please confirm capacities with the vehicle owner's manual."
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      03-09-2019, 10:43 AM   #26
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2 - IDrive has two options for those who opted for the Tow hitch

b) There is a specific trailer setting for the side mirrors
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What does this do?
Bump on this question. What does this iDrive option do, for a "specific trailer setting for the side mirrors"?
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      09-06-2019, 03:06 PM   #27
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Does anyone have the part number for the hitch install kit for G05? All i come up with is the aftermarket products.

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      09-07-2019, 07:17 AM   #28
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This is BS if true as BMW says nowhere that adding the hitch removes any option or functionality (except it removes prewiring as it is fully wired)

1 - Adding the factory tow hitch seems to disable the option to use your foot to open the trunk
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This is bull crap. Nowhere it’s spelled out that kick sensor is disabled with hitch installed. I will give Bmw hard friggin time when I will get mine. I am wondering how big of a deal it’s to relocate basic sensor to be bit of to the side??
It is shown in multiple places. When you click on the tow option in the build tool it shows it in the details that kick to open will be removed.
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      09-07-2019, 10:24 AM   #30
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It is shown in multiple places. When you click on the tow option in the build tool it shows it in the details that kick to open will be removed.
Also just about every automaker does the same thing when adding a hitch. Not sure why its such a big deal, as it still opens with the push of a button. How quickly we get spoiled with auto everything!
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This is bull crap. Nowhere it's spelled out that kick sensor is disabled with hitch installed. I will give Bmw hard friggin time when I will get mine. I am wondering how big of a deal it's to relocate basic sensor to be bit of to the side??
It is shown in multiple places. When you click on the tow option in the build tool it shows it in the details that kick to open will be removed.
For the 2020 build configurator it does but for the MY2019 it didn't. Which is what that poster was referring to based on when he made the post (pre 2020 online configurator)
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      09-09-2019, 07:57 AM   #32
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I've just had the BMW OEM (WESTFALIA) removable hitch towbar system installed on my M-sport 30d, and its absolutely awesome. Its a clean installation; no cutouts on any horizontal / visible panels, and you cant even tell the car has a towbar when its not installed. The trailer connector swings upwards, so absolutely nothing visible.

Towing capacity is only around 6000lbs (2700Kgs); what I tow is no more than 1500-1600 Kgs (~3500Lbs) - so not an issue for me.

I know the retrofit (after factory) removable tow hitch is more expensive; cost me about $3k (Aussie dollars), but I'm willing to pay a little more to not have the cutout in the rear diffuser, or have the thing visible when I'm not towing - which is like 99% of the time.

I can post up some pics if anyone is interested....
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      09-09-2019, 09:33 AM   #33
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did anyone figure out if its possible to relocate sensor to keep the swing-the-leg-to-open-trunk functionality with the stock hitch ?

I peaked under the trunk and could not even figure out where the sensor is...
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      09-10-2019, 07:12 AM   #34
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Also just about every automaker does the same thing when adding a hitch. Not sure why its such a big deal, as it still opens with the push of a button. How quickly we get spoiled with auto everything!
I disagree. My 2017 GMC Yukon Denali has a factory hitch and includes kick to open. Same on our 2018 Escalade and it was also the same on my previous 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland. C'mon, if GM and Jeep can figure it out surely BMW can...

Ultimately I rarely used the kick to open though and do tow occasionally so I opted for the hitch and sacrificed the kick to open on my 2020 M50i build.
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I use a Kuat rack with the factory hitch, solid, doesn't wiggle or make noise, and I can open the top tail gate with it in the storage/upright position when not in use.
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      11-01-2019, 06:18 PM   #36
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I got the tow package on my M50i... even though I'll probab li y never use it. Comes with extra oil cooler I believe, and you never know what the future holds.

I would never use the kick feature anyway. Last car had it. It was never reliable, and I never bothered anyway.

My biggest disappointment is that the M performance carbon diffuser only works on cars without the hitch.

That's why I'll likely have it vinyl wrapped in carbon.
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      12-17-2019, 03:58 PM   #37
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Bump on this question. What does this iDrive option do, for a "specific trailer setting for the side mirrors"?
Did you ever get your question answered?
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      12-25-2019, 12:24 AM   #38
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      12-25-2019, 12:45 AM   #39
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For those looking to purchase the Tow hitch options, here are some observations I made on pickup

1 - Adding the factory tow hitch seems to disable the option to use your foot to open the trunk

2 - IDrive has two options for those who opted for the Tow hitch

a) There is specific Tow camera view, and has the same guide lines as backup
b) There is a specific trailer setting for the side mirrors

3 - If you opt for the M-Sport with trailer hitch, there's no concealment for the hitch. The bumper is just notched out for the hitch.
All these drawbacks are applicable to the US hitch. European electric foldable hitch doesn’t loose any features when choosing it. Only limitation I know is that on the 45e with 22” rims, the factory hitch is not supported.
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      12-26-2019, 02:20 PM   #40
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I installed the aftermarket Curt from etrailer.com. Took me about 2 hours and still retained the kick to open. I didn't look for the sensors when it was all apart. In all fairness it does hang down 2' and is visible but I don't care. I don't plan on any actual towing, just bike rack.
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      12-26-2019, 02:43 PM   #41
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This is bull crap. Nowhere it’s spelled out that kick sensor is disabled with hitch installed. I will give Bmw hard friggin time when I will get mine. I am wondering how big of a deal it’s to relocate basic sensor to be bit of to the side??
It is called out on the option description.

"The factory-installed trailer hitch will enable increased towing power to 7,200 lb; however, the "foot-kick" capability in Comfort Access will be removed. Important: When towing please ensure to always use appropriately rated equipment and trailer with appropriate braking. See dealer for details and carefully read Owner's Manual before towing. In some states, aftermarket trailer brakes are required."
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      12-26-2019, 02:51 PM   #42
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This is bull crap. Nowhere it’s spelled out that kick sensor is disabled with hitch installed. I will give Bmw hard friggin time when I will get mine. I am wondering how big of a deal it’s to relocate basic sensor to be bit of to the side??
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This from BMW Genius:
"The installation of the trailer hitch with a 7,200 pound towing limit as a standalone option cannot be ordered with Smart Trunk. The additional hardware blocks the ability to add this technology. We apologize for any disappointment this may cause."

StealthHitch have an after market hitch that doesn't block the sensor.
Just a thought here, is it possible that some regulatory screwball decided that the “kick to open” feature might damage the trunk lid by accidentally opening the trunk onto what ever is attached, ie bikes on a rack or something.


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I installed the aftermarket Curt from etrailer.com. Took me about 2 hours and still retained the kick to open. I didn't look for the sensors when it was all apart. In all fairness it does hang down 2' and is visible but I don't care. I don't plan on any actual towing, just bike rack.
A picture would be nice!
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      12-26-2019, 03:03 PM   #43
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Just a thought here, is it possible that some regulatory screwball decided that the “kick to open” feature might damage the trunk lid by accidentally opening the trunk onto what ever is attached, ie bikes on a rack or something.




A picture would be nice!
I suspect the hitch may interfere with the kick sensor.
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I suspect the hitch may interfere with the kick sensor.
While I would tend to agree, why then do aftermarket hitches of varying design not interfere as well?

It would be nice if we knew the exact location of the sensor. I don’t have my G05 yet so I can’t check, but maybe others could...hint, hint.

On a side note, I don’t care because I doubt I would use it much, if at all, but I really don’t care for the body color bezel. Probably my first mod will be painting that bezel black as it should have been.

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