[TurtleBoy]

Just got my X5 back from an oil change and also was able to talk them into updating iDrive to the latest version, I was on 11/2019.70 from the OTA update. I used the excuse of CarPlay dropping connections (which is a problem that recently started) but the tech said there were no updates available and the one connection fault they say was from the device.

Obviously I know there were updates available so I sent the version info to my SA as well as emailing the shop foreman. He responded back that they are only able to update iDrive when it is a warranty issue that will be solved and nothing is showing that is the case with my CarPlay problem. He then said he will do some more research as well as contact the TSE, which I gathered was a regional engineer, and if all else fails will update it as a good will gesture.

He got back to me in a little bit and said the TSE signed off on the upgrade being done as a warranty item which sort of surprised me.

So far I noticed a few things which I think are new but could have missed them before:

1. The Climate Rules now have an option for the heated steering wheel to be activated by temperature.

2. There is a new App called Automatic Window which allows you to set activation points and when you get to one of them the driver's window will open. I did set one for getting my mail from the mailbox but have not tested it yet. It will be interesting to see how accurate the activation point can get. When I'm on the right side of the road I don't want it to activate but when I cross to the left side I do as that is where the mailbox is. I will update once testing is complete.

3. This is probably expected but most ECUs are not available in BimmerCode. I would imagine it will take an update for them to be used.

4. The Settings under Mobile Devices no longer has the checkbox for CarPlay. It is now just Bluetooth, WiFi and Internet.

As far as my CarPlay issue goes, it did disconnect once on the way home from the dealer but when I got home I got a message on the Control Display that the connection for my iPhone needed to be redone. I deleted the device from iDrive and delete the X5 from the phone and reconnected it. Hopefully that actually did something and it works.

I will update if I find anything else as I use it.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Just got my X5 back from an oil change and also was able to talk them into updating iDrive to the latest version, I was on 11/2019.70 from the OTA update. I used the excuse of CarPlay dropping connections (which is a problem that recently started) but the tech said there were no updates available and the one connection fault they say was from the device.

Obviously I know there were updates available so I sent the version info to my SA as well as emailing the shop foreman. He responded back that they are only able to update iDrive when it is a warranty issue that will be solved and nothing is showing that is the case with my CarPlay problem. He then said he will do some more research as well as contact the TSE, which I gathered was a regional engineer, and if all else fails will update it as a good will gesture.

He got back to me in a little bit and said the TSE signed off on the upgrade being done as a warranty item which sort of surprised me.

So far I noticed a few things which I think are new but could have missed them before:

1. The Climate Rules now have an option for the heated steering wheel to be activated by temperature.

2. There is a new App called Automatic Window which allows you to set activation points and when you get to one of them the driver's window will open. I did set one for getting my mail from the mailbox but have not tested it yet. It will be interesting to see how accurate the activation point can get. When I'm on the right side of the road I don't want it to activate but when I cross to the left side I do as that is where the mailbox is. I will update once testing is complete.

3. This is probably expected but most ECUs are not available in BimmerCode. I would imagine it will take an update for them to be used.

4. The Settings under Mobile Devices no longer has the checkbox for CarPlay. It is now just Bluetooth, WiFi and Internet.

As far as my CarPlay issue goes, it did disconnect once on the way home from the dealer but when I got home I got a message on the Control Display that the connection for my iPhone needed to be redone. I deleted the device from iDrive and delete the X5 from the phone and reconnected it. Hopefully that actually did something and it works.

I will update if I find anything else as I use it.

So what version did they update you to?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by mitch57

So what version did they update you to?

The title of the thread - 07/2020.25 which was released Tuesday from what he told me. He didn't have it on his update devices yet so loaded one and had mine done by a tech.

[mitch57]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

The title of the thread - 07/2020.25 which was released Tuesday from what he told me. He didn't have it on his update devices yet so loaded one and had mine done by a tech.

Duhh! Sorry, I got lost in all the different threads and only read your comments.

I wonder if they had any problems while updating? I like the option to roll down the window when the car reaches a specific set point.

[smovva]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Just got my X5 back from an oil change and also was able to talk them into updating iDrive to the latest version, I was on 11/2019.70 from the OTA update. I used the excuse of CarPlay dropping connections (which is a problem that recently started) but the tech said there were no updates available and the one connection fault they say was from the device.

Obviously I know there were updates available so I sent the version info to my SA as well as emailing the shop foreman. He responded back that they are only able to update iDrive when it is a warranty issue that will be solved and nothing is showing that is the case with my CarPlay problem. He then said he will do some more research as well as contact the TSE, which I gathered was a regional engineer, and if all else fails will update it as a good will gesture.

He got back to me in a little bit and said the TSE signed off on the upgrade being done as a warranty item which sort of surprised me.

So far I noticed a few things which I think are new but could have missed them before:

1. The Climate Rules now have an option for the heated steering wheel to be activated by temperature.

2. There is a new App called Automatic Window which allows you to set activation points and when you get to one of them the driver's window will open. I did set one for getting my mail from the mailbox but have not tested it yet. It will be interesting to see how accurate the activation point can get. When I'm on the right side of the road I don't want it to activate but when I cross to the left side I do as that is where the mailbox is. I will update once testing is complete.

3. This is probably expected but most ECUs are not available in BimmerCode. I would imagine it will take an update for them to be used.

4. The Settings under Mobile Devices no longer has the checkbox for CarPlay. It is now just Bluetooth, WiFi and Internet.

As far as my CarPlay issue goes, it did disconnect once on the way home from the dealer but when I got home I got a message on the Control Display that the connection for my iPhone needed to be redone. I deleted the device from iDrive and delete the X5 from the phone and reconnected it. Hopefully that actually did something and it works.

I will update if I find anything else as I use it.

Confused re: #4: are you saying no more Apple CarPlay? Any hints in the UI re: Android Auto?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by smovva

Confused re: #4: are you saying no more Apple CarPlay? Any hints in the UI re: Android Auto?

No, CarPlay still works but there is no longer a checkbox for it (used to say something like CarPlay and Bluetooh, don't remember exactly) on the settings screen. When you pair the phone it still asks whether you want to connect through iDrive or use CarPlay.

I didn't see anything about Android Auto but that could be because I have an iPhone. Perhaps when connecting an android phone it would ask iDrive or Android Auto.

[adamjs83]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Just got my X5 back from an oil change and also was able to talk them into updating iDrive to the latest version, I was on 11/2019.70 from the OTA update. I used the excuse of CarPlay dropping connections (which is a problem that recently started) but the tech said there were no updates available and the one connection fault they say was from the device.

Obviously I know there were updates available so I sent the version info to my SA as well as emailing the shop foreman. He responded back that they are only able to update iDrive when it is a warranty issue that will be solved and nothing is showing that is the case with my CarPlay problem. He then said he will do some more research as well as contact the TSE, which I gathered was a regional engineer, and if all else fails will update it as a good will gesture.

He got back to me in a little bit and said the TSE signed off on the upgrade being done as a warranty item which sort of surprised me.

So far I noticed a few things which I think are new but could have missed them before:

1. The Climate Rules now have an option for the heated steering wheel to be activated by temperature.

2. There is a new App called Automatic Window which allows you to set activation points and when you get to one of them the driver's window will open. I did set one for getting my mail from the mailbox but have not tested it yet. It will be interesting to see how accurate the activation point can get. When I'm on the right side of the road I don't want it to activate but when I cross to the left side I do as that is where the mailbox is. I will update once testing is complete.

3. This is probably expected but most ECUs are not available in BimmerCode. I would imagine it will take an update for them to be used.

4. The Settings under Mobile Devices no longer has the checkbox for CarPlay. It is now just Bluetooth, WiFi and Internet.

As far as my CarPlay issue goes, it did disconnect once on the way home from the dealer but when I got home I got a message on the Control Display that the connection for my iPhone needed to be redone. I deleted the device from iDrive and delete the X5 from the phone and reconnected it. Hopefully that actually did something and it works.

I will update if I find anything else as I use it.

No news maps?

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Just got my X5 back from an oil change and also was able to talk them into updating iDrive to the latest version, I was on 11/2019.70 from the OTA update. I used the excuse of CarPlay dropping connections (which is a problem that recently started) but the tech said there were no updates available and the one connection fault they say was from the device.

Obviously I know there were updates available so I sent the version info to my SA as well as emailing the shop foreman. He responded back that they are only able to update iDrive when it is a warranty issue that will be solved and nothing is showing that is the case with my CarPlay problem. He then said he will do some more research as well as contact the TSE, which I gathered was a regional engineer, and if all else fails will update it as a good will gesture.

He got back to me in a little bit and said the TSE signed off on the upgrade being done as a warranty item which sort of surprised me.

So far I noticed a few things which I think are new but could have missed them before:

1. The Climate Rules now have an option for the heated steering wheel to be activated by temperature.

2. There is a new App called Automatic Window which allows you to set activation points and when you get to one of them the driver's window will open. I did set one for getting my mail from the mailbox but have not tested it yet. It will be interesting to see how accurate the activation point can get. When I'm on the right side of the road I don't want it to activate but when I cross to the left side I do as that is where the mailbox is. I will update once testing is complete.

3. This is probably expected but most ECUs are not available in BimmerCode. I would imagine it will take an update for them to be used.

4. The Settings under Mobile Devices no longer has the checkbox for CarPlay. It is now just Bluetooth, WiFi and Internet.

As far as my CarPlay issue goes, it did disconnect once on the way home from the dealer but when I got home I got a message on the Control Display that the connection for my iPhone needed to be redone. I deleted the device from iDrive and delete the X5 from the phone and reconnected it. Hopefully that actually did something and it works.

I will update if I find anything else as I use it.

Kinda BS they give a hard time to give you new software that is available for your car,especially when under warranty. It no money out of their pocket

[eagle_bmw]

@TurtleBoy, any chance of the software release notes being available in iDrive to share?

[babyghost]

Please if you can find out if you got android auto? Maybe borrow someone's phone? It will be great news for android users if it's already supported.

[Heavyd]

Why don't they just always update to the latest version? So they will normally only perform an update if you have problems?

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by themnmd

Kinda BS they give a hard time to give you new software that is available for your car,especially when under warranty. It no money out of their pocket

Actually it is money out of their pocket if it is not covered by warranty since the can only charge BMWNA if it is warranty/authorized work.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by adamjs83

No news maps?

I don't use CarPlay Maps so wouldn't know if anything changed, sorry about that.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by eagle_bmw

@TurtleBoy, any chance of the software release notes being available in iDrive to share?

I will check and report back if I find any.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by babyghost

Please if you can find out if you got android auto? Maybe borrow someone's phone? It will be great news for android users if it's already supported.

I will see what I can do to find an Android.

[ifr]

I like the sound of this. Hopefully offers the same in the HUD with CP:

"The highlights of the Android AutoTM at BMW are the seamless and wireless integration and the intelligent adoption of turn-by-turn guidance from Google MapsTM in the instrument cluster and in the Head-Up Display."

[adamjs83]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

I don't use CarPlay Maps so wouldn't know if anything changed, sorry about that.

I was referring to this.

[James_G0540i]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Actually it is money out of their pocket if it is not covered by warranty since the can only charge BMWNA if it is warranty/authorized work.

The G05 model was only released in 2018, so all our cars should still be under warranty.

Imagine if Microsoft charged for every software patch they released for Windows 10?

If BMW want to treat their cars as "Platforms", then the cost of support for their car is surely covered under the "free" servicing agreements?

I have 4-years/80,000km "free servicing" on my car - so I expect the latest software releases after each service, especially considering how the car's features and safety systems are linked to software.

[Bigtime78]

I wonder if this update has the fix for the false A/C condenser freeze up issue on the N63 models?

Also. If BMW just did the frigging updates quickly OTA then the whole “tricking the dealer” thing we all have to do, would be moot.

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Actually it is money out of their pocket if it is not covered by warranty since the can only charge BMWNA if it is warranty/authorized work.

If your car is within the 3 year free service period, shouldn't a software upgrade be part of the deal?

[edofloat]

Originally Posted by themnmd

If your car is within the 3 year free service period, shouldn't a software upgrade be part of the deal?

The items that require service are listed in your manuals that show intervals for oil changes etc. Don't think there is any mention of regular servicing of software in my manuals here in the USA.

[ifr]

Originally Posted by themnmd

If your car is within the 3 year free service period, shouldn't a software upgrade be part of the deal?

Remote Software Upgrade (RSU) is part of a ConnectedDrive subscription.

Ad-hoc dealer upgrades that tie up engineers are not, hence it needs a warrantable reason to perform an out-of-band software upgrade at the dealer.

There is an argument that BMW are not delivering with the RSU as often as they originally stated, but this doesn't automatically imply a right to a dealer software upgrade. I'd say you are more likely entitled to compensation/refund for the lack of RSU.