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The key card is great as well, but this is a nice alternative. And to confirm it works even if phone is shut off, needs no power - NFC. |
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08-20-2020, 10:46 AM | #24 |
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I always take my phone out of my pocket anyway - about 75% it falls out of my pocket if I don't - so my habit is to take the phone out and place it on the charging mat. This feature will allow me to ditch the FOB and have one less thing to carry in my pockets. I like it!
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Have anyone experienced the Apple CarKey yet with 2021 models? How is it in real world use?
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Waiting for the same thing, even more for the Apple Watch experiences since I didn’t find any videos on how to start the car with a watch. They can’t expect you to take if off and put it in the charger. First cars with the feature should be arriving soon.
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"The BMW Digital Key and Apple's implementation under iOS and watchOS for the wallet app correspond to specification 2.0 of the Car Connectivity Consortium (CCC) and therefore follow established industry standards instead of using their own. With this specification, NFC with almost direct contact with the vehicle is required to establish a connection to the car, be it on the driver's door or to start the engine in the smartphone compartment. Users of an Apple Watch can still lock and unlock the vehicle comparatively easily via NFC by holding their watch on the door handle of the driver's door, but to start the engine the watch has to be stored in the smartphone holder like the smartphone. Therefore, the use of an Apple Watch for the digital key is currently not advisable, as the smartwatch has to be removed each time the engine is started and then put on again later."Still, there are many other benefits of Apple CarKey that will be handy. I am looking forward to using it. Review and video is here in German: https://www.computerbase.de/2020-08/...y-iphone-test/ |
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Some more context below:
Current specification is Digital Key 2.0 developed by Car Connectivity Consortium (CCC). The next generation of Digital Key, the Release 3.0 specification, is under development. It will leverage Bluetooth Low Energy and Ultra Wideband wireless connectivity together to achieve precise positioning of smartphone. It'll support passive, location-aware keyless access, providing vehicle owners with more convenience and new features. With Release 3.0, the need to take the smartphone out of your pocket and hold it to the vehicle will no longer be necessary. The current generation iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro (Max) are already equipped with the specially developed U1 chip. BMW has announced that the next generation of the Digital Key will be developed with ultra broadband technology (UWB). 2021 X5 is currently using CCC 2.0 standards. The questions are:
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09-05-2020, 02:24 PM | #31 |
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Seriously? Could you please elaborate on your source or findings? I'll be quite pissed if this the case!
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What an irony! Apple is an American company and their tech isn't available on their home turfs.
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I believe it needs new hardware. BMW announcement was very specific on which build it'll be available (late 2020).
I think it'll finally allow us to be truly without physical keys (one less thing to carry around), although the current physical key-fob have some cool features that will be hard to replicate. |
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The reasons why this is not being made available are stated, and it's not hardware AFAIA. BMW have stated that they are considering retrofit to earlier models which wouldn't be a consideration if there was a hard block. Yes, it can be coded at the car. BMW have made a retrofit coding bundle available for pre MY21, so it can be done using esys only with no FDL coding. They won't make available until the Samsung incompatibility issue is addressed one way or another. To enable Smart Access 1.5 at the car add SMAC to FA (HO-WORT), calculate FP and check the 'Aftermarket fitment' section. It should list SMAC_Activation_Smart_Access_1.5'. Then VO code HU_MGU and BDC 7083. It won't work unless you have DK1.5 on your Apple device, but is backwards compatible with the BMW NFC card, and you will be able to see the new menu etc. |
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You'll need 07/2020.x or later, but 4865 is the correct code to activate the necessary coding in the 2 ECU's.
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Yes I want to know what the plans are for Android as well. I have it working perfectly on my 2020 M50i with a Galaxy S10+ Hate to see it screwed around with.
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Today Apple announced Watch version 6. The changes are exciting. Sharing it from 9to5mac.com:
"Apple Watch 6 includes the U1 chip and Ultra Wideband antennas for features such as CarKeys. The U1 chip uses positioning tech known as an Ultra Wideband (UWB) radio that provides precise location and spatial awareness, so a U1-equipped device can detect its exact position relative to other devices in the same room. The new Car keys feature will also benefit from the new U1 chip found on iPhone 11 and now in Apple Watch Series 6. With Car Key, drivers can replace physical keys with their iPhone or Apple Watch using NFC. However, thanks to the U1 chip, you won't even have to take your iPhone out of your pocket or raise your wrist to unlock the doors or start the car." Ball is in your court now BMW. Apple delivered what was needed.
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Coding is there for SmartAccess 2.0. Whether or not the latest i-step code supports it yet is a different matter. Shows intent at least on BMW's part. |
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I just have no clue why S20 was skipped from working on protocol 1.0 |
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I thought there was some BMW server side changes needed to get this working? |
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