[notanaudi]

Installed now issues

[Dwillbimmer]

Anyone else seeing issues with the MPG calculation after the update? My average and instantaneous calculated MPG has gone way up driving the same routes I’ve been driving every day. I filled my tank a couple of days after getting the update, and reset the trip computer like I usually do. Now, I’m showing a 3-4 MPG increase in the average driving around town, which doesn’t seem to make sense. Even if the software update did some engine optimization, it seems unlikely that it would make that much difference.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by Dwillbimmer

Anyone else seeing issues with the MPG calculation after the update? My average and instantaneous calculated MPG has gone way up driving the same routes I’ve been driving every day. I filled my tank a couple of days after getting the update, and reset the trip computer like I usually do. Now, I’m showing a 3-4 MPG increase in the average driving around town, which doesn’t seem to make sense. Even if the software update did some engine optimization, it seems unlikely that it would make that much difference.

As an aside, you don't need to reset the trip data when you fill up, there is a data bucket for that. It will reset when you fill up.

[jad03060]

The mpg logic gets reset when you get a software update. It will learn your routine and adjust, but it will take maybe a few weeks. Then, it should settle in to what you'd been seeing previously.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by jad03060

You might want to see what map baseline and region versions are on the vehicle. The region gets updated OTA, but the baseline does not.

Just got a pic sent to me from the dealer with the Map version. Any idea about its region from looking at this pic? The car has lived its life in Texas which you can see in the pic but does this pic also show the baseline? (not sure what that is)
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[jad03060]

Your road map baseline is the 2020-3 version, and the latest regional map is 2020-4. It sounds like you're not getting the OTA map updates, as the Texas portion, I'm pretty sure must have been updated since 2020! Generally, there's a quarterly update, and right now, for my region, I'm on 2022-2.

The baseline map doesn't get updated, only the regional ones. Since that date, they're rearranged the regions a bit. You might want to go onto the BMWUSA website, log in to your garage, and select your home region...it MIGHT trigger an update. If that doesn't happen in the following week (assuming you drive the thing), you might want to talk to the service center. You could also try clicking on UPDATE on the nav screen. I think you might need to hit the options button next to the controller when on the map page.

[TurtleBoy]

As jad03060 said, that vehicle has not been receiving the regional updates by OTA. I would ask the dealer to update the base map and then hopefully future OTA's will be applied to your region.

[Xeno]

My 2022 X5 loaner yesterday had 3/2022.4x.
I did not keep it long but noticed at least what seemed to be improvements in assisted driving. Then again, my point of reference is a 2099 X5 with 11/2021.4x.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

Mine shows on the recall tool. I wonder if the dealer is really programming it or rather just installing the latest iDrive update that contains the fix.

https://bmw-recall-tool.netlify.app/...73AK0XN7K53637

I brought my car in today to get the SIB for my vehicle that has never received an OTA update and I asked about the Recall for the sunroof reprogramming. The dealer rep happened to be there (I didn't meet him) and my service advisor and the shop steward both told him about my car never receiving an OTA update. He said if the VIN doesn't show any updates or recalls, then there is nothing else they can do. He told the dealer to not touch the car. Nice.
Seems like the guy doesn't even realize that the SIB specifically applies to cars like mine that don't receive the updates. The service personnel said that BMWNA a couple of years ago just started refusing to reimburse dealers for software updates.

I'm going to call BMWNA next week. Though I doubt they will be of much help.

I'm almost at the point where I'll just get rid of the car and be done with BMW. I really love the car but it's just not worth the aggravation.
It's not like I'm asking for something to be done outside of warranty.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

I brought my car in today to get the SIB for my vehicle that has never received an OTA update and I asked about the Recall for the sunroof reprogramming. The dealer rep happened to be there (I didn't meet him) and my service advisor and the shop steward both told him about my car never receiving an OTA update. He said if the VIN doesn't show any updates or recalls, then there is nothing else they can do. He told the dealer to not touch the car. Nice.
Seems like the guy doesn't even realize that the SIB specifically applies to cars like mine that don't receive the updates. The service personnel said that BMWNA a couple of years ago just started refusing to reimburse dealers for software updates.

I'm going to call BMWNA next week. Though I doubt they will be of much help.

I'm almost at the point where I'll just get rid of the car and be done with BMW. I really love the car but it's just not worth the aggravation.
It's not like I'm asking for something to be done outside of warranty.

That is not acceptable. The SIB specifically covers situations like yours and they must install the latest iDrive version. BMWNA will reimburse them for doing so.

I would imagine after contact BMW you will be getting a call from the dealer to set up the appointment as well as an apology.

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

I'm almost at the point where I'll just get rid of the car and be done with BMW. I really love the car but it's just not worth the aggravation.It's not like I'm asking for something to be done outside of warranty.

Sorry to read you're still experiencing this issue. I just had mine done to the most recent update available all under warranty. It sounds like you are having issues with your dealer and not so much BMW in general. I don't understand why they won't just do it, if not for the simple fact of getting a customer off their back but more important for the fact that it is not functioning as designed or intended so it should be completed.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

I brought my car in today to get the SIB for my vehicle that has never received an OTA update and I asked about the Recall for the sunroof reprogramming. The dealer rep happened to be there (I didn't meet him) and my service advisor and the shop steward both told him about my car never receiving an OTA update. He said if the VIN doesn't show any updates or recalls, then there is nothing else they can do. He told the dealer to not touch the car. Nice.
Seems like the guy doesn't even realize that the SIB specifically applies to cars like mine that don't receive the updates. The service personnel said that BMWNA a couple of years ago just started refusing to reimburse dealers for software updates.

I'm going to call BMWNA next week. Though I doubt they will be of much help.

I'm almost at the point where I'll just get rid of the car and be done with BMW. I really love the car but it's just not worth the aggravation.
It's not like I'm asking for something to be done outside of warranty.

Huh? Really? But you never actually saw the dealer rep yourself, right? Hmmm, very suspicious. Here is a screenshot of the version my dealer just installed the other day.....go for it.

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[BobsM3Coupe]

Thanks guys. I think the dealer is afraid to just do it because if they brick a module, then it's on them. I would try another dealer but the same dealer rep covers them also.
What gets me is the rep looked into my cars combo of options, etc. and he said there haven't been any updates sent OTA for my VIN. That's why the car never received any. Sounds like bs.
I'll call BMWNA tomorrow.

[jad03060]

Some things are upgrades to system wide software, some a patches to specific modules, so may not be applicable to every vehicle. The last version that BMW touted as being applicable to all versions was 7/21. While never ones may make mods to things, so far, they have not touted them as being 'required', or system-wide.

When I had mine in for service, they updated it to the 7/21 version, but not the latest that was available to them. I was a little miffed, but in the process, they did say they found some faults that had prevented it from updating, and it should get the next general one pushed out...I'm waiting to see.

[TurtleBoy]

The SIB specifically states that the dealer should update the effected vehicles to the latest I-level. All iDrive7 versions are compatible with all vehicles that run it.



https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...04533-9999.pdf

[BobsM3Coupe]

It's funny, I got a 2021 M440i x drive as a loaner. I noticed it had 03/2021 s/w. I checked off to search for a new update. After like 10 minutes, don't you know it found 7/2021 update. So I checked off to download it. Which it proceeded to do. After about an hour, it was ready for installation.
I imagine that is how it is supposed to operate.

[Marty in NY]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

It's funny, I got a 2021 M440i x drive as a loaner. I noticed it had 03/2021 s/w. I checked off to search for a new update. After like 10 minutes, don't you know it found 7/2021 update. So I checked off to download it. Which it proceeded to do. After about an hour, it was ready for installation.
I imagine that is how it is supposed to operate.

You gonna charge the dealer $200 for the update

[JimVR4]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Thanks guys. I think the dealer is afraid to just do it because if they brick a module, then it's on them. I would try another dealer but the same dealer rep covers them also.
What gets me is the rep looked into my cars combo of options, etc. and he said there haven't been any updates sent OTA for my VIN. That's why the car never received any. Sounds like bs.
I'll call BMWNA tomorrow.

Sorry to hear about this ongoing situation. It seems this rep is standing in the way of dealer obligations. I'm guessing he gets some kind of kickbacks for doing so. Definitely call BMWNA and force the issue.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by Marty in NY

You gonna charge the dealer $200 for the update

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by JimVR4

Sorry to hear about this ongoing situation. It seems this rep is standing in the way of dealer obligations. I'm guessing he gets some kind of kickbacks for doing so. Definitely call BMWNA and force the issue.

Oh, I will be calling BMWNA next week. Yes, the dealer rep supposedly checked into any OTA software updates that my VIN should have received, and he claims none were applicable to my car. I have to believe he is lying and he also told the dealer to not do any software work on my car. So of course if the dealer isn't going to get paid, no work will be done.
I have the dealer reps first name. Don't you just love it when people are afraid to give the last name? But it sounds like the same dealer rep covers the two dealers nearby, no doubt some other dealers, but they are at least 100 miles away.
So BMW should know who it is.

[TurtleBoy]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Oh, I will be calling BMWNA next week. Yes, the dealer rep supposedly checked into any OTA software updates that my VIN should have received, and he claims none were applicable to my car. I have to believe he is lying and he also told the dealer to not do any software work on my car. So of course if the dealer isn't going to get paid, no work will be done.
I have the dealer reps first name. Don't you just love it when people are afraid to give the last name? But it sounds like the same dealer rep covers the two dealers nearby, no doubt some other dealers, but they are at least 100 miles away.
So BMW should know who it is.

All that he, actually probably the receptionist, likely did was run a key check and it didn't show any outstanding issues requiring an update. That is perfectly normal since it will only show it if there is a recall or some other SIB for the vehicle that requires work.

In the case of not getting the OTAs that will not show up since it is up to the owner to request it. Once that is done then the dealer should following the SIB.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by TurtleBoy

All that he, actually probably the receptionist, likely did was run a key check and it didn't show any outstanding issues requiring an update. That is perfectly normal since it will only show it if there is a recall or some other SIB for the vehicle that requires work.

In the case of not getting the OTAs that will not show up since it is up to the owner to request it. Once that is done then the dealer should following the SIB.

The service advisor did run a key fob check and he showed me where it said no recalls. I also mentioned about the upcoming recall (22V-267) for the FZD module update for the sunroof closing without the key fob nearby.
I mentioned that it was probably to soon and BMW didn't have all of the VIN's involved in the recall included yet. I was hoping if the SIB 09 03 21 didn't get done (obviously not), that hopefully the recall update would update the car. But no luck.