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      11-04-2020, 07:16 AM   #1
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Which version of Esys is everyone using for coding

I have both 3.27.01 (32 bit) and 3.34.00 (64 bit) installed on my machine. I'm using Esys-X to code and I seem to prefer 3.27.01, but something about not using the latest possible version nags at me. It seems Esys-X plays nicers with 3.27.01 than it does 3.34.00. For example, you can edit the NCD file directly from the coding tab on 3.27.01. On 3.34.00 it gives me an error so I have to go the FDL editor and edit it that way. Not a huge deal, just 2 added clicks that I otherwise don't have to do on 3.27.01. Curious what everyone elses thoughts were on this.
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I use 3.35.3 and previously 3.34.0.

Are you sure you have configured esysx correctly with the 3.34.0 64-bit version? I don't experience an issue editing fdl directly from Coding.
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I belive so - here's my setup and the error I get when I try to "Edit FDL" straight from the CODING tab.
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I belive so - here's my setup and the error I get when I try to "Edit FDL" straight from the CODING tab.
Have you got more than 1 version of esys installed- install path looks... 'custom'?

I have the option, 'Edit NCD', not 'Edit FDL'

That's not the normal behaviour of 3.34 with esysx so its something environmental in your setup.
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Have you got more than 1 version of esys installed- install path looks... 'custom'?

I have the option, 'Edit NCD', not 'Edit FDL'

That's not the normal behaviour of 3.34 with esysx so its something environmental in your setup.
I miss typed ... for 3.34.0 it's "Edit NCD". For 3.27.1 it's "Edit FDL".

I do have a custom path b/c I have both 3.27.1 installed and 3.34.0 installed. Surely that can't be the issue.
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I miss typed ... for 3.34.0 it's "Edit NCD". For 3.27.1 it's "Edit FDL".

I do have a custom path b/c I have both 3.27.1 installed and 3.34.0 installed. Surely that can't be the issue.
I've had co-existance work and had it fail. A lot can depend on order of install and registration of launchers.

I'd take everything off including launcher pro if you have it, then reinstall esys. Maybe go for 3.35.3 while you are at it.

Then install esysx, configure and save the 64bit esys path. See what happens.

Only other issues ive had with esys has related to java versions. I don't have any JRE installed.

I'm not an expert in getting this stuff working, but I do know yours is broken

and don't cal me shirley
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I've had co-existance work and had it fail. A lot can depend on order of install and registration of launchers.

I'd take everything off including launcher pro if you have it, then reinstall esys. Maybe go for 3.35.3 while you are at it.

Then install esysx, configure and save the 64bit esys path. See what happens.

Only other issues ive had with esys has related to java versions. I don't have any JRE installed.

I'm not an expert in getting this stuff working, but I do know yours is broken

and don't cal me shirley
Thanks - I'll do that. Do you happen to have a link to 3.35.3?
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I've had co-existance work and had it fail. A lot can depend on order of install and registration of launchers.

I'd take everything off including launcher pro if you have it, then reinstall esys. Maybe go for 3.35.3 while you are at it.

Then install esysx, configure and save the 64bit esys path. See what happens.

Only other issues ive had with esys has related to java versions. I don't have any JRE installed.

I'm not an expert in getting this stuff working, but I do know yours is broken

and don't cal me shirley
Thanks - I'll do that. Do you happen to have a link to 3.35.3?
Hi VTENGR,

I can upload it and share. Please check your Esysx version, support for 3.35 was added on 20/09/2020 update.
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Hi VTENGR,

I can upload it and share. Please check your Esysx version, support for 3.35 was added on 20/09/2020 update.
Thanks!

EsysX64 Version 2.3.1.5 installed 10/10/2020.
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Thanks!

EsysX64 Version 2.3.1.5 installed 10/10/2020.
I have sent you a PM with the link.
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I've had co-existance work and had it fail. A lot can depend on order of install and registration of launchers.

I'd take everything off including launcher pro if you have it, then reinstall esys. Maybe go for 3.35.3 while you are at it.

Then install esysx, configure and save the 64bit esys path. See what happens.

Only other issues ive had with esys has related to java versions. I don't have any JRE installed.

I'm not an expert in getting this stuff working, but I do know yours is broken

and don't cal me shirley
Just tried the steps you suggested and updated to Esys 3.35.3 and still get the same runtime error on Esys-X when trying to EDIT NCD straight from the CODING tab.
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Just tried the steps you suggested and updated to Esys 3.35.3 and still get the same runtime error on Esys-X when trying to EDIT NCD straight from the CODING tab.
Tricky one.

What happens if you just start esys, no esysx? Does Edit NCD still result in a crash or does it open the editor albeit with trimmed codes?

Assumption you are using W10 2004 or 20H2
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Tricky one.

What happens if you just start esys, no esysx? Does Edit NCD still result in a crash or does it open the editor albeit with trimmed codes?

Assumption you are using W10 2004 or 20H2
I get the same runtime error. "Java.lang.NullPointerException at ...." followed by a lot of text that I'm not qualified to interpret

Windows 10 Pro 2004

Edit - Added error details if that helps anyone.
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Not esysx then, it's your OS environment. Do you have Java installed?
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Not esysx then, it's your OS environment. Do you have Java installed?
I didn't but I just installed it - Version 8 build 271 and still get the same error.
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Not esysx then, it's your OS environment. Do you have Java installed?
I didn't but I just installed it - Version 8 build 271 and still get the same error.
I don't have Java (jre) independently installed on my system.

There seems to be quite a few reports of this error with esys versions newer than 3.27.1. No solutions just the workaround to use 3.27 or use fdl editor.

What I do know is that a new build of w10 2004 or later with esys 3.34.0/3.35.3 works without issue. Just wonder if there is some issue with legacy software registration such as launcher pro / esysx versions.
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Strange - I reached out to Esy-X to see if they could shed some light on it. Maybe I need to go through my registry and remove everything pertaining to esys and esys-X and start from scratch.
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There's a JRE folder thats installed with esys. Sometimes independant installs of JRE can cause conflicts.

What happens if you start e-sys.bat instead of exe? Sets a few paths inlcuding some java ones.
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There's a JRE folder thats installed with esys. Sometimes independant installs of JRE can cause conflicts.

What happens if you start e-sys.bat instead of exe? Sets a few paths inlcuding some java ones.
Program just boots like normal - same error.
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If you have access to a virtual environment Id install a clean build of W10 and just esys 3.35.3 just for your own sanity. Confirm it works.

If you want to try uninstalling esys, just make sure the folder is completely removed in EC-apps. Also uninstall esysx, Java, and reinstall esys. then just try esys.

After that it's going to need a deep-dive with log analysis which is probably not worth it. Almaretto and shawnsheridan don't seem to have identified a solution in the posts Ive seen so might be easier to rebuild, or stick with the constraints.
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If you have access to a virtual environment Id install a clean build of W10 and just esys 3.35.3 just for your own sanity. Confirm it works.

If you want to try uninstalling esys, just make sure the folder is completely removed in EC-apps. Also uninstall esysx, Java, and reinstall esys. then just try esys.

After that it's going to need a deep-dive with log analysis which is probably not worth it. Almaretto and shawnsheridan don't seem to have identified a solution in the posts Ive seen so might be easier to rebuild, or stick with the constraints.
Is there a drawback to just using 3.27.1?
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One other point - I dont use cheats, ever. So thats not activated in esysx for me and wont hook into esys, if that has a potential impact.
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