[Russ103]

Originally Posted by viperdoc

I am close to ordering one. At first I was concerned about depreciation but I looked at the comparable numbers of the 2018 x5 hybrid vs the gas 35i and they were almost exactly the same.

Have you considered coming over to the dark side of the M50i? It's a lot more fun in this side

[jad03060]

With the instant torque of the electric motor and the combined power of the ICE and electric, the 45e is no slouch in that it feels faster than it is. Now, maybe if I was towing a big trailer with a family and luggage, more power might be useful, but doing that usually means you aren't trying to be the fastest one on the road, either. In the meantime, that V8 would be more expensive to buy, more expensive to maintain (if you keep it out of warranty), and much more expensive to feed fuel to.

It all depends on what you want, and what your priorities are. For me, the 45e hit a sweet spot. Now, give it a few years, I might change my mind, but I doubt it.

[BMWHippo]

Originally Posted by nZtiZia

while i don't experience that extreme where i live and considering the few minor technical glitches i've encountered, i'm heavily invested in my 45e with absolutely no regrets!

Wow! what color is that beauty?

[nZtiZia]

Originally Posted by BMWHippo

Wow! what color is that beauty?

that's XPEL stealth paint protection film over OEM arctic grey

[viperdoc]

Originally Posted by Russ103

Have you considered coming over to the dark side of the M50i? It's a lot more fun in this side

Haha! Yes I did actually. I test drove one here locally. It is beast for sure. A bit too much for me (both financially and fuel economy wise). It also begs to be driven fast, and for me, it's not a good idea

I really love the idea of the hybrid, but with my two commutes (52 miles round trip 4 days a week and 160 miles round trip 2 days per week) I will be driving about 25K miles per year with 90% being highway. The engine of the 40i is getting me about 27mpg on the highway currently. This is actually the first time I have calculated out the numbers....I don't think the hybrid would end up being very efficient for me right now. As soon as I leave the Air Force and move closer to my job, the hybrid would be perfect

[BC_01]

To any X5 45e owners, what does the icon with an e on the car and mileage mean in live cockpit professional? Thank you in advance!

[jad03060]

It's like your odometer, but for miles driven in electric mode.

[viperdoc]

Thanks for all the info everyone. It's been very helpful. One last question for all the 45E owners. On longer trips when the battery ultimately says it is depleted, how does the car feel to drive? Is acceleration that much slower? Or is there always a little bit of electric juice in the battery to help you with acceleration? I don't really care as much about miles per gallon on longer trips as long as it is around the EPA estimate of 22 or so. Frankly I just don't want it to feel like a slug when the battery is depleted. I'm not out to win any drag races but I do want to still feel like a BMW

[Fennario]

Noticable difference when battery is depleted in Eco mode. Sport mode rectifies the issue at the expense of MPG.

[viperdoc]

Originally Posted by Fennario

Noticable difference when battery is depleted in Eco mode. Sport mode rectifies the issue at the expense of MPG.

If you stay in hybrid or adaptive mode is there much of a difference?

[MOTOP]

The question that i have is why do you guys buy 45e in the first place?

-Not enough money (like buying M50i instead of M despite some voices worrying about firmness of M50i) ?
BTW, it’s me...i’m going with M50i.
-Gas price (you already spent $80k), so what’s the yearly diff between big-ass engine consumption and that one?
-If money is not the issue, because of its “hybridness” and eco-friendliness?

Something else?

[Fennario]

No carpool lane restrictions in California until 2025 (can drive in carpool lanes solo).

Subsidies for purchase of both vehicle and charging infrastructure.

EV torque in conjunction with ICE is close to V8

Smooth/silent operation when desired. Driving around in EV mode is very relaxing.

$4.50/gal in San Francisco adds up. 45e gets over 3x the milage when driving in the city - particularly with all of the hills, stop/go, etc.

[MOTOP]

Originally Posted by Fennario

No carpool lane restrictions in California until 2025 (can drive in carpool lanes solo).

Subsidies for purchase of both vehicle and charging infrastructure.
EV torque in conjunction with ICE is close to V8
Smooth/silent operation when desired. Driving around in EV mode is very relaxing.

$4.50/gal in San Francisco adds up. 45e gets over 3x the milage when driving in the city - particularly with all of the hills, stop/go, etc.

Really don’t want to get into politics about CA...:-)
Musk barely escaped it in his Tesla !

[viperdoc]

Well the 45E is cheaper than the 40i after tax incentives. Has standard air suspension. And while I don't live in a city, my gas bill will be cut in half if I buy one. And acceleration is just as good if not better than the 40i. My question is why wouldn't you buy one? (If the other choice is a 40i And you had a place to charge it every night). I saw one member has put more than 2000 miles on his car and has never filled it up with gas

[evodz]

Originally Posted by fe03h20

The question that i have is why do you guys buy 45e in the first place?

-Not enough money (like buying M50i instead of M despite some voices worrying about firmness of M50i) ?
BTW, it’s me...i’m going with M50i.
-Gas price (you already spent $80k), so what’s the yearly diff between big-ass engine consumption and that one?
-If money is not the issue, because of its “hybridness” and eco-friendliness?

Something else?

For me, its the tax rebates, already got solar, and with my commute and errands, I expect to get once every 3 months or so. If this car didn't exist, I would get X5M Comp because what's a 'M'50i 😂

[MOTOP]

I got it. It’s the money. Ultimately.
I’m in the same boat. Nothing new.

It takes coal and gas to move the electrons. Plus a bit more regen efficiency and less torque. LOL

[viperdoc]

When I can afford this, I won't be so worried about gas money LOL

[jad03060]

Originally Posted by fe03h20

I got it. It’s the money. Ultimately.
I’m in the same boat. Nothing new.

It takes coal and gas to move the electrons. Plus a bit more regen efficiency and less torque. LOL

The 45e has more power and torque for most of its normal driving than in a 40i. When the battery indication shows zero miles, that does not mean that there's not a bit to augment the power during acceleration, just that it won't shut off the ICE and run solely on electrons.

Torque on BMW engines is available at fairly low RPMs, but the electric motor produces maximum torque at zero, augmenting the ICE when necessary.

If you're worried about getting to zero on the batteries, you CAN set the controls to maintain some higher level of battery charge, so are then certain you'll always have max EV boost...unless, you're on the track. During any cruise, there's probably at least 200Hp available to charge the batteries that isn't needed to maintain speed. And, there's almost always some EV power to help back up the ICE.

Running around town in EV mode is quiet, smooth, and unless you always need to be the first one across the intersection, has plenty of power.

While I don't begrudge anyone driving what they want (as long as it's not belching noxious chemicals including soot and smoke), I am, so far, more than satisfied with my PHEV. Yes, I could have afforded an M, but saw no good reason to do it...one reason why I could afford it is being a bit practical so I can spend it on other things, like flying, traveling, neat other toys I can use more often, etc. If it floats your boat, fine. They make different models because not everyone's needs and desires are the same. Diversity is good, just keep in mind, not everyone likes the same things and we'll all get along better!

[Fennario]

Time is the most valuable commodity of them all... Doesn't really matter how much hp/torque the car next to me has when they are stuck in bumper-to-bumper and I am flying past in the HOV lane with an EV sticker on the 45e.

[viperdoc]

Originally Posted by Fennario

Time is the most valuable commodity of them all... Doesn't really matter how much hp/torque the car next to me has when they are stuck in bumper-to-bumper and I am flying past in the HOV lane with an EV sticker on the 45e.

Absolutely. Hitting 46 next month. Time (and health) clock starting to tick...

[jad03060]

Each of the X5 models sold in the USA can easily vastly exceed the legal speed limits, and likely do that while climbing up a mountain pass. IN most driving situations, any of the X5's sold can easily keep up.

Yes, the thrill of acceleration is worth something...more to some than others. Live with it. Some love the sound of the engine...personally, once in awhile, it is neat, but I'd rather it be quiet! Higher noise levels are a known stress inducer. Try a cross-country flight with and without noise cancelling headphones, and you'll find you arrive much more relaxed with them than without. For a short stretch, it's neat. On a long ride, quiet is more important.

[OzzieJeff]

Originally Posted by fe03h20

The question that i have is why do you guys buy 45e in the first place?

-Not enough money (like buying M50i instead of M despite some voices worrying about firmness of M50i) ?
BTW, it’s me...i’m going with M50i.
-Gas price (you already spent $80k), so what’s the yearly diff between big-ass engine consumption and that one?
-If money is not the issue, because of its “hybridness” and eco-friendliness?

Something else?

1. Carpool lane sticker huge deal as I cross the bridge everyday (SF Bay Area)
2. Better comfort compared to my Tesla Model 3 LR with 19" wheels (45e has air suspension)
3. Federal EV incentive plus CA Clean Fuel incentive adds up to $9k "discount" on top of the other incentives and dealer discount.
4. Have solar panels so technically "free" charging together with my current JuiceBox Pro

Having a "fast" car was at the bottom of my list, as if I just want a fast car I don't/won't need to upgrade from the 3.7sh 0-60 that I get from my Tesla Model 3