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      09-09-2021, 06:12 AM   #67
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Alright, I'm officially clocking out of this thread. There is no point.
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FYI:

You should read the actual terms of the BMW Military Incentive. Being a PenFed member does not qualify a person without them being able to provide proof through I’d.me that the buyer is military.

Yes, the dealer may screw up and give it to you, so you will win. However, when the dealer gets audited by BMW in the future, those who the dealer can’t prove were military will result in BMW forcefully taking those incentive $’s back from the dealer. Not from you, but the dealer.

Just be informed, particularly if you care at all about personal integrity.
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FYI:

You should read the actual terms of the BMW Military Incentive. Being a PenFed member does not qualify a person without them being able to provide proof through I’d.me that the buyer is military.

Yes, the dealer may screw up and give it to you, so you will win. However, when the dealer gets audited by BMW in the future, those who the dealer can’t prove were military will result in BMW forcefully taking those incentive $’s back from the dealer. Not from you, but the dealer.

Just be informed, particularly if you care at all about personal integrity.
This is not correct, being a member of PenFed for 60 days qualifies a person for the military incentive, no other proof is needed. I posted the eligibility requirements for a military incentive that BMW sent to dealers.
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This is not correct, being a member of PenFed for 60 days qualifies a person for the military incentive, no other proof is needed. I posted the eligibility requirements for a military incentive that BMW sent to dealers.
Agreed with the exception of calling the PenFed rebate "the military incentive" when, as you note, functionally it is not.
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      09-10-2021, 09:05 PM   #72
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Agreed with the exception of calling the PenFed rebate "the military incentive" when, as you note, functionally it is not.
Just repeating what BMW calls it.
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      09-11-2021, 12:59 AM   #73
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So what should I tell my dealer to do if they don't understand/refuse to accept PenFed discount?
Instruct them to enter it as a type J sale??
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      09-11-2021, 01:35 AM   #74
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What are we arguing about?
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      09-11-2021, 01:54 AM   #75
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So what should I tell my dealer to do if they don't understand/refuse to accept PenFed discount?
Instruct them to enter it as a type J sale??
Find out why they're refusing - the type J / G stuff comes in with BMWFS & the stacking of incentives:



essentially the "program" code stacking is the same, but that doesn't make them functionally the same discount, nor apply the requirements of one program (military id.me) to the penfed discount (member > 60 days)

You go to the PenFed site, apply, and you get a certificate with this text on it:



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Never mind... Not worth arguing with a fool.
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So what should I tell my dealer to do if they don't understand/refuse to accept PenFed discount?
Instruct them to enter it as a type J sale??
They should know what to do but, yes, it is a Type J incentive.
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Never mind... Not worth arguing with a fool.
Why toss out insults over an incentive description? Dude, seriously, have just a stitch of self-awareness: you're getting pissy over the explanation of a rebate.

Repeat that to yourself:

"I turtleboy have reached my highest maturity aspiration: being pissy & whiney over a rebate description"

Let's just chalk that post up to you're having a bad day, deal?
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      09-11-2021, 04:48 PM   #79
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Why toss out insults over an incentive description? Dude, seriously, have just a stitch of self-awareness: you're getting pissy over the explanation of a rebate.

Repeat that to yourself:

"I turtleboy have reached my highest maturity aspiration: being pissy & whiney over a rebate description"

Let's just chalk that post up to you're having a bad day, deal?
Why do I respond to a troll, you would think I would know better by now but when people purposely post incorrect information as you often do I feel I have to do my best to make sure people are aware. You may get some sick enjoyment out of purposely misleading people but that type of behavior is not what people come here for. Maybe there are some high school age forums that would be more appropriate for you. Trying to then turn into the "holier than thou" poster after stirring things up is a nice tactic but very transparent to anyone who has followed your posting history.

Have fun with your little games. I'm seriously done now with you now since you are my ignore list but have at it should it make you feel like the better man.

Edit: In all fairness I should add this. I believe you do not always start out with the goal of misleading folks but it seems it is your inability to admit when you are wrong that causes you to continually post bad/misleading/confusing/unrelated/etc. information. If admitting you made a mistake is that bad for your ego then maybe just leave the thread rather than going on and on hoping someone actually buys into what you are posting. In the end it would be much better for the forum, its members and for yourself.
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Well now that my week 40 order is delayed at least a month I can sign up for penfed.
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Well now that my week 40 order is delayed at least a month I can sign up for penfed.
Sorry to hear it is delayed but yes, take advantage of it. Did they give any info as to why it is delayed, a specific feature/option?
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My dealership had zero problems with my PenFed documents, never mentioned anything about needing to be military.
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My dealership had zero problems with my PenFed documents, never mentioned anything about needing to be military.
That is the way all dealerships will operate. If you didn't meet the eligibility, in this case being a PenFed member for 60 days, then you wouldn't be able to get the certificate. Other than making sure the name on the certificate is correct they don't need to do any other verification.
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My dealer is refusing to honor the PenFed promo, because the order form clearly states it's for 2021 models only (not 2022), see screenshot in the post #75 here. They're asking me to produce them a form that shows 2022. Can you guys clarify how you got that done?
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My dealer is refusing to honor the PenFed promo, because the order form clearly states it's for 2021 models only (not 2022), see screenshot in the post #75 here. They're asking me to produce them a form that shows 2022. Can you guys clarify how you got that done?
I think it is assumed by dealers that the certificate has not been updated yet so they let it go. If BMW would have pulled it from PenFed for MY22 then they would likely have something about it on their website.

Edit: It could be that TrueCar hasn't updated the template yet since printing a certificate directly from their site also doesn't have MY22. See attached. It is highly unlikely that BMW ended the military incentive starting with MY22, your dealer should contact BMWFS to verify that the Type J incentive is available for MY22.
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I think it is assumed by dealers that the certificate has not been updated yet so they let it go. If BMW would have pulled it from PenFed for MY22 then they would likely have something about it on their website.

Edit: It could be that TrueCar hasn't updated the template yet since printing a certificate directly from their site also doesn't have MY22. See attached. It is highly unlikely that BMW ended the military incentive starting with MY22, your dealer should contact BMWFS to verify that the Type J incentive is available for MY22.
Yeah, thank you, that's exactly the same form I printed out and emailed to the dealership they refused. I was thinking about calling PenFed and asking them about 2022, but it sounds like most people in this thread do not have any problems with theirs.
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Yeah, thank you, that's exactly the same form I printed out and emailed to the dealership they refused. I was thinking about calling PenFed and asking them about 2022, but it sounds like most people in this thread do not have any problems with theirs.
I contacted PenFed customer support with some questions about the discount and they didn't even know this existed. They replied they give no money off or incentive for buying a BMW. When I gave them the link they were quite surprised.

If your dealer is refusing, I'm sure another dealer will accept your business. You can ask upfront if they know how to handle the PenFed discount. One of the dealers I contacted even asked me if I was a PenFed member upfront on our first email and was giving advice on how to maximize my incentives.
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I think it is assumed by dealers that the certificate has not been updated yet so they let it go. If BMW would have pulled it from PenFed for MY22 then they would likely have something about it on their website.

Edit: It could be that TrueCar hasn't updated the template yet since printing a certificate directly from their site also doesn't have MY22. See attached. It is highly unlikely that BMW ended the military incentive starting with MY22, your dealer should contact BMWFS to verify that the Type J incentive is available for MY22.
Yeah, thank you, that's exactly the same form I printed out and emailed to the dealership they refused. I was thinking about calling PenFed and asking them about 2022, but it sounds like most people in this thread do not have any problems with theirs.
Picked up my MY 22 45e on Friday.

My dealer's accounting team just processed it. It took them a bit to figure out but they eventually got there. They should be able to put the code through their system and get it - it's no skin off their back - they get reimbursed by BMW so they should not have a financial reason to want to reject it. It's more likely the extra effort to figure it out is causing them to say "no." I would just be adamant - say you called BMW NA and PenFed and they said it's fine… you know others they got it etc. direct them that it's a type J etc.
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